The makers of Star Trek can thank their lucky stars that the spacetime continuum isn't thought to be very continuous these days. The new Star Trek film turns its back on everything that Back To The Future ever taught us about time, and embraces the possibilities of infinite alternate universes that come along with the relatively recent science of string theory.
In the domain of string theory, the paradox issues created by time travel are resolved by a split in the fabric of time, with new offshoots...
Zachary Quinto is such an amazing actor and seeing him in an interview like this just exposes even further the genius behind those beautiful eyes of his. I love this man and will follow hime wherever his career takes him
Screw this movie forever! It's a slap in the face to so many fans who have supported this franchise for 20-40 years. Bleh!
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WyldeSage
I'm lost
June 2008
MAY 04, 2009 09:45 AM
The only Star Trek I ever liked was Next Generation...I saw a short preview of the new movie, and it looks really boring.
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Q_
Columbus, OH
June 2006
MAY 04, 2009 09:46 AM
Q: Leonard, how did [William Shatner] react to you being cast in the movie?
LN: Oh, I think he had mixed feelings but it's all worked out fine.
Q: Did you guys talk about your return to...
LN: ...No. We didn't talk about it.
I can't wait to see this film. I like that the writer/director really approached Star Trek in a new way. A facsimile of the original series just wouldn't have worked. But this...wow! I love what I've seen so far -- and Karl Urban IS Dr "Bones" McCoy. When I saw the trailer scene, that clinched it for me.
I'm excited for this movie, but I feel that maybe this interview shouldn't have gone up until after it was already out. I mean, there aren't huge spoilers, but yeah.
What a kick ass interview! Nice treatment of topics sacred to fans while remaining philosophically adept & conceptually sophisticated. Loved the birth, life/death, & maternal themes in flick as I took my Mom to see it on Mother's Day. Zach Quinto makes me weak in the knees-- his adaptation/ portrayal of the younger Spock is like solid gold. So nice to read an elaboration of that.
Ainur said:
Screw this movie forever! It's a slap in the face to so many fans who have supported this franchise for 20-40 years. Bleh!
WyldeSage said:
The only Star Trek I ever liked was Next Generation...I saw a short preview of the new movie, and it looks really boring.
Congratulations, you're both wrong.
It's an opinion - it would be very difficult for it to be wrong as there are no facts that say otherwise in this case. A movie making money doesn't make it right, or good. It just means the herd followed blindly, which is what they were counting on.
And to the person who said that it was approached in a new way, no, it was raped, forcefully. There are a THOUSAND stories to tell without RETELLING one that already exists. That's exactly what everybody is doing now. Somebody needs to try having an imagination, or maybe an original idea. Not, "Oh, I know, we'll use string theory so we can just go back and retell the original story however we want". Again, it's an insult to MANY of us who have loved and supported this franchise. Just do something different from that time period, or going forward, even if it has to be with an all new cast/crew. Changing forty years of history is large piles of bullshit.
Ainur said:
Screw this movie forever! It's a slap in the face to so many fans who have supported this franchise for 20-40 years. Bleh!
WyldeSage said:
The only Star Trek I ever liked was Next Generation...I saw a short preview of the new movie, and it looks really boring.
Congratulations, you're both wrong.
It's an opinion - it would be very difficult for it to be wrong as there are no facts that say otherwise in this case. A movie making money doesn't make it right, or good. It just means the herd followed blindly, which is what they were counting on.
Just because a large number of people don't share your opinion about this film doesn't make them a herd. Or are they not entitled to their opinions? Perhaps you're the only one.
Ainur said:
Screw this movie forever! It's a slap in the face to so many fans who have supported this franchise for 20-40 years. Bleh!
WyldeSage said:
The only Star Trek I ever liked was Next Generation...I saw a short preview of the new movie, and it looks really boring.
Congratulations, you're both wrong.
It's an opinion - it would be very difficult for it to be wrong as there are no facts that say otherwise in this case. A movie making money doesn't make it right, or good. It just means the herd followed blindly, which is what they were counting on.
Just because a large number of people don't share your opinion about this film doesn't make them a herd. Or are they not entitled to their opinions? Perhaps you're the only one.
Of COURSE I'm the only one; the only one that matters, anyway. Heh. Nah, totally kidding. I get your point, but I didn't tell anybody they were wrong in my original post. I was responding to that comment in particular. However, in this context, by saying "the herd" I was simply referring the majority of movie goers who don't have preconceived notions about Star Trek. That is an audience they were going for, something they were very open about all through production. Since this film is already very close to becoming the highest grossing release in the history of the franchise, I think it's safe to say they succeeded in getting them. But that does NOTHING in regards to making it proper Trek.
Ainur said:
I didn't tell anybody they were wrong in my original post.
And I didn't purport to speak for "so many fans" in mine.
I was simply referring the majority of movie goers who don't have preconceived notions about Star Trek.
The majority of moviegoers haven't been living under a rock for the past 40 years. They have preconceived notions about Star Trek.
That is an audience they were going for, something they were very open about all through production.
Of course it is. Do you know what a movie for hardcore Trekkies would be called? A failure.
But that does NOTHING in regards to making it proper Trek.
Who are you to decide what constitutes "proper Trek"? To paraphrase Neil Gaiman, Star Trek is not your bitch.
I feel quite comfortable speaking for so many fans because I'm one of them and I know an uncountable number who feel the same way. To deny that this is true would be ridiculous in the least and delusional otherwise. I fully understand that there may be just as many who don't feel that way, but that's no reason for the powers that be to dismiss those that do (thankfully the books are kicking much ass at the present time). I respect their opinion and I hope they enjoy spending their $10-15 bucks on a pile of revisionist bs.
Most moviegoers have never seen a Trek film or had any desire to do so. Trek fans are a joke to most people; just silly dorky guys who wear costumes and go to conventions. A vast majority of them don't, and never have.
That's an assumption; the franchise was doing just fine until they made a couple of bad movies. It's as simple as that. They didn't need to re-write the existing history, just make a movie that didn't suck.
It's as much my right as it is anybodies, be they in this forum or a fan on the street talking to a friend. IN MY OPINION it's not proper Trek and it never will be. Those characters are iconic because of the people who originally played them. Many of whom are still living. A vast majority of every day those characters lived has already been established through 40 years of canon on screen, television and in print. With all due respect to Neil (as I do have much love and respect for the man), it ain't his bitch either.
In the original pilot, Spock was a bit more emotional than he ended up bring throughout the rest of the series. I don't see concept of him having outwardly emotional stuff in a prequel as being out of place.
For the movie, I almost always hate time travel movies because you're messing things up when you travel in time and Hollywood never gets it right, and it ends up being cheesy. This was an exception, as they had to reset the series and actually did a fabulous job at it. I was pleasantly surprised, because as bad as the reset James Bond movies are, this one is really good.
I do think that ZQ played a more emotional/human Spock than LN, even if he didn't see it. Nimoy was good at being stiff and logical, which isn't a bad thing because that's how Vulcans are. ZQ's dichotomy I thought was pretty good. Plus, Zoe's hot and he got to kiss her so that's all good.
ZQ's very well spoken for his age. Sorry, a lot of you folks are his age, but I'm just saying...
It's too bad Nimoy didn't talk more about what Shatner thought. Just out of curiosity, I would have liked to have known.
This is a very good interview. The Original Spock and Sylar together was awesome. I personally like Nimoy as Spock because he lives his life like the character. It was his idea for the Vulcan Claw since he thought knocking out a person in the series was too "violent" for his character.
As for Quinto...well he slices open people's heads so...well...yeah...
nicole_powers
NEWSWIRE
I'm lost
MAY 03, 2009 06:00 AM