Those were all European tests (40km/h offset & whatever side-impact), so I had to use the Toyota. Those Europeans aren't too fond of our cars.

The thread did get out of hand. At the point that she locked it, I was the only one still arguing in favor of keeping the name and it was obvious the name was not going to be kept. I suggested that she lock it and assert herself. truth be told, if that thread had started when I still owned the group it would have only been two posts long and the second one would have been me saying "Name's not changing, deal with it" and I would have locked it. I've always thought of being the owner of a regional group as a sort of "Enlightened Dictatorship", if you will.....basically, be aware of how your members feel, take it into account, but make the decision yourself.

She listened because I was advising her to do something she probably already wanted to do. It really shouldn't have gone on that long. There are so few active members, by page two everyone had voted, the rest was me trying to convince them that it won't matter what the name is, so why chnage it and them telling me to grow up and get over it.

The Reds beat the Braves last night.....today's game just started.

I don't remember if I ever actually closed a thread, but I know there were times when I stepped in and made it clear that further discussion would be pointless since things weren't changing.....for example, back in 2004 when we first discussed changing the name to SG West Michigan or whatever.

In case what you meant was the Tigers/Indians....the Indians put up 3 in the 10th, the Tigers could only put up 1....Indians win 3-1. For the record, despite my Ohio address and license, I hold no real affinity for the Indians.

We're having a holiday party. Will you be attending?

Slacker.....go for a whole group!