I first heard of Stevie Ryan when VH1 presented her new show Stevie TV to the Television Critics Association in January. When they showed a clip real of Ryan in impeccable makeup as Kendra, the Kardashians, Lady Gaga and Mob Wives, her point of view cracked me up.
Stevie TV (pronounced like Stevie Tevie) premiered on Sunday, March 4 on VH1. Ryans first sketches had Kendra breaking into dance anytime anyone chanted Go Kendra, Go Kendra and Justin Bieber (also Ryan) running a Bang Bus. Wait until you see her as Lady Gaga forcing children to explore and reinvent gender definitions.
Ryan got her start making comedy videos on YouTube. If you check out her YouTube channel you can even see her doing a burlesque dance in a sepia tint. Rather than many comedians who have a knack for voices and do impressions, Ryan uses makeup and costume to portray a realistic version of her characters. Perhaps it almost feels like youre watching the real Kim Kardashian knowing what a fool she acts like.
The week before Stevie TV premiered, I spoke with Ryan by phone. As Id hoped our talk went off on tangents that expressed her comic voice, rather than the nuts and bolts of making a show. Stevie TV airs Sunday nights at 11 p.m with repeats throughout the week on VH1.
SG: I believe you share a hairdresser with Missy.
SR: Really, at Hairroin Salon. Thats so funny. Ive been going there for years and theyre pretty much the best hair place in the world in my opinion.
SG: Do they do your hair for your characters or just Stevies hair?
SR: They actually did my hair in the pilot which I didnt get to bring my Hairroin girls onto the show because it was a union job and they were all nonunion and we tried to get them into the union and there was a whole disastrous thing but they have. They used to do a lot of my online videos. A ton of my online videos theyve done the hair in. We have hair tutorials even online that I did with the salon, so yeah thats so crazy. Thats awesome.
SG: So are you familiar with Suicide Girls?
SR: Of course I am, who doesnt know about Suicide Girls? I am very familiar with Suicide Girls? Actually years ago when I first started making YouTube videos, I was approached by, I have no idea who it was anymore, Id have to go on my MySpace and look it up and I dont even know if I remember the password to my MySpace but I actually was approached by one of the Suicide Girls and they had asked me if I wanted to do a shoot to try to get in. I actually have a few friends that have been Suicide Girls and yeah, I feel like Suicide Girls is very pop culture.
SG: Would you maybe play a Suicide Girl in a sketch?
SR: You know what? We actually talked about that. Suicide Girls was one of our ideas but what we wanted to do ended up being a little dark. Thats the only thing that we get. One of our things is we tend to go dark with things sometimes because comedy can darker easily and then our head writer was like, No, you guys are going dark with it so calm down. But hey, you never know. Season two!
SG: What was the idea that was too dark?
SR: It was something about being a Suicide Girl that was dead. Like she actually was a real life Suicide Girl that had killed herself so that was the dark end of it.
SG: Do you actually have any tattoos?
SR: I actually dont have any tattoos surprisingly because Im pretty sure Im the only one of my friends that doesnt have a tattoo. I went through my whole thing in high school where I stretched my ears very big which I now regret because now they look like little cat butt-holes or something weird. I know thats so gross, but thats what they look like. When you stretch your ears and then you take your plugs out, they shrink up and they look like cat butt-holes after. Its just so ugly and I wish I wouldnt have done it but whatever, Ill live. Its just the ear hole. But I had them stretched huge to like 1/8 I think. I had my tongue pierced and my lip pierced. I was all pierced up and had crazy hair in high school and I think I got it all out of my system early on.
SG: Im a big cat lover so I think cat butt-holes are adorable. They're always in my face.
SR: See, thats why I compared it to that because cats are always putting their butts in your face and I love cats too and just animals in general. Im a fan of cat butt-holes. I think theyre cute and theyre little. Who wants big scary ugly ones? Not me.
SG: As someone who likes to dress up, how is your self-image as Stevie?
SR: You know what? This is really weird because no one expects this, but I cant stand myself. Thats why I like being characters. If I wanted to be me I would be like a standup comedian, but I dont wanna be myself. What fun is that? Ive been me my whole life. Thats not very fun. So I really dont even have a view on myself. I dont like being in my own head. I like leaving my head and pretending to be in someone elses head. I like going into different worlds. I live in my world every day. I was born into my world. Im bored of it. So for me I dont like being myself.
SG: Do you like making yourself revolting, like as the Mob Wives?
SR: Oh yes. Actually, it can go both ways. I really love it because its a real transformation and it really makes you feel different. We have one sketch, its a celebrity ghost stories sketch but it involves Lindsay Lohan. Basically Im Lindsay Lohan but Im a demon and I have to do this all day. They blotted my teeth out and made me look super crazy, and it was really fun during it because Ive never done a character like this. Ive never gone to a dark place character-wise. Then I had to go to such a dark place for that that by the time I got home, I was completely freaked out. I couldnt sleep. I was so scared. I didnt even feel like myself in my apartment. I felt like I was a demon haunting my own apartment. I didnt even go to bed until the sun came up because I was terrified. I wigged myself out. Even for Little Loca, when I first started doing Little Loca online I was so consistent with it that I started dreaming in Spanish, and I dont even know Spanish. So I know the toll that these characters can take on you but I never thought it would take me to such a deep dark place like that did in just one day. So that was really interesting for me and I see how people can get wrapped up in characters. I hate to bring it up but Heath Ledger, after I had that experience I was like whoa, I couldnt imagine playing The Joker for months and being in that place in your head. That would be fucking impossible to come back from I feel like. That would be a really scary thing.
SG: How do you feel as Lady Gaga? Did you get any of her mojo?
SR: Oh, you dont even know. First of all, I now love Lady Gaga. Of course before I was like yeah, Lady Gaga, shes awesome, cool, Gaga, whatever. Like I thought she was great and she had her own thing going on, but then after playing her, first of all our Lady Gaga outfits are so awesome and I realize how much effort it takes to just wear those outfits around. I just feel like wow, I have a whole new respect for Lady Gaga. I think shes awesome. I think shes brilliant and I dont use that word lightly. I just think for every character Ive played besides The Kardashians I always leave with a new respect for them, and especially Gaga because she kicks ass at what she does and she does it in the most painful and most incredibly uncomfortable outfits that anyone could ever imagine. And she does it with all her heart and soul. And no one would ever know how uncomfortable she is unless youre in those outfits. Now that I know, I just think that shes awesome and wow, you really, really work hard for what you have. Its not a joke. Its really not. I feel like that about a lot of characters. I didnt really have an opinion on Ke$ha. We have a Ke$ha musical parody and I thought oh, its Ke$ha, whatever. Everyone would say really negative things about her and then after researching her, before we recorded the song, before we wrote it, I had to listen to her albums and read about her and just kind of find that character. After that, after we shot it, I was like I love Ke$ha. I think shes awesome and I wouldnt have developed that love for her if I didnt get to experience her world and get to know her world. On that end it really makes me have a new respect for a lot of artists and see how hard these things really are for some people.
SG: But not the Kardashians?
SR: Not the Kardashians, no. I don't know what it is, but I just feel it just doesnt take much to be a Kardashian.
SG: You have a burlesque video on YouTube. Was burlesque something you were always interested in?
SR: Ooh, yes. This is actually years ago, this is actually how I found YouTube. I was looking up, and this is before the Bettie Page movie. This is far before Bettie Page was cool.
SG: Bettie Page was always cool.
SR: Exactly, but I mean mainstream cool. Bettie Page has always been awesome. At Amoeba, before there was Netflix Streaming and Hulu and all these sites where you can go watch movies, you used to actually have to go to rent movies or go to Amoeba and I found a bunch of Bettie Page, they call them stripteases but she doesnt even strip in them. Theyre just these little films of her dancing around and I bought all of them. Now theyre all over YouTube. You can YouTube em but its like five minute pieces with Bettie Page dancing along in a cute outfit to some music. I was so smitten by them. I just thought it was the epitome of a beautiful woman. Like body-wise, face-wise, personality-wise, I just thought its so classy and so cute. The shit were seeing nowadays with chicks rubbing their vaginas all up in the camera and flashing and just grinding all up on each other. But its so different and back then it was such a scandal for a girl to even dance and be sexy like that. I don't know what it is, I just find it so charming. I became obsessed with these Bettie Page stripteases. Then I just decided I had to try to make my own versions of these. Theyre obviously from the Irving Klaw era when he used to shoot Bettie Page and I found other ones of his with other pinup girls, and just kept discovering more and more from there and I just thought it was the ultimate way to be sexy.
SG: Its funny what you say about spreading and grinding. Im a guy, I look at stuff, but sometimes even I think, Come on, thats just gross. Thats your vagina and A-hole.
SR: No, totally. Its super weird. Theres some things youve got to like make it a little harder to see. Dont put it all out there. If you put the buffet out, people are going to eat it. Thats just the way that it goes.
SG: Or in the first minute. At least build up to minute five or 10.
SR: Exactly, theres gotta be a buildup or something that leads. Just dont lay it all out right away. Youve got to give it to em slowly. Its really interesting the way that things are just out in the open now and like super open open. Ive seen a lot of friends or just people that Ive met all of a sudden their nudes are leaked online, and its not like oh, its them naked. Its them spreadeagle with a giant gaping hole in between their legs that I never wanted to see in my life and is causing me to have acid reflux from looking at it. Its like what? Why are you even taking a photo posed spreadeagle? At least close your legs and take the naked photo. Thats fine, but its just weird. Its just like theres no censor in peoples minds even.
SG: I always say the best way to keep a sex tape from getting out is not to make one.
SR: Thats exactly what I say. See, I have a previous experience that really fucked me up. An ex-boyfriend of mine moved in with me, this was years and years ago. Because I was creating my own content at the time, I have tons of tapes. I still have tons of tapes. Ill always have my little tapes. He had tapes as well. He was a film student. So our tapes were mixed together in our apartment. I had shot my older brothers wedding but none of our tapes were marked. I dont ever write on my tapes what they are so I was literally putting in tape by tape going through seeing what each tape was, looking for my brothers wedding tape. Well, while Im going through these tapes, I come across a video of my boyfriend at the time and his ex-girlfriend having sex on tape. And let me tell you, this was not like oh, theyre just doing it. I cant even believe that someone got this deep into her vagina with a camera. Im like did this camera have sex with you? You fucked this camera Im pretty sure. It was so graphic and gross and I was so shocked. Im like how did this girl let a tape of herself butt naked with a camera inside her vagina, out in the world? If anyone ever brought anything near my vagina like that it would have to be burned up and destroyed afterwards. I cant even imagine how he just left that out in the open and just the things they were doing.
SG: At least he didnt talk you into it.
SR: Oh, if he ever even wouldve said that he wouldve gotten knocked out in a heartbeat. It wouldve been like what? No. But its kind of shocking because I love the female body. Im the first one to say it. I think women are beautiful, all shapes, all sizes. I think that you can photograph the female body and do it in a way to really show how beautiful it is. Theres a certain way that you can do nudity thats tasteful and is about appreciating the female body. And then theres a whole side of it where you can really degrade the female body and make it look very degrading and have it be awful. Thats what I think some of these big name sex tapes are. Its degrading. Its not done in a tasteful way. Its not making them look beautiful. Its not about respecting the female body and showing you how beautiful it can be. Its very weird and I just cant imagine having something like that or doing something like that and not lighting it on fire right after. Then this girl, what are you thinking? I have your sex tape somewhere in my tapes. You dont even fucking know. I could send that to your parents. Why would you want that out in the world? I have no idea. Thats the weirdest thing. What if your kids found it? Its so crazy.
SG: That said, I am a guy. If I hear someone has a sex tape out, I watch it.
SR: Hey, Im a girl and I hear someone has a sex tape out, you damn well bet Im the first one Googling it trying to find a link. Im awful about it but again, its one of those things. Im very much fascinated, thats why I love these reality shows and stuff. People are like oh, this is mindless television. No, its really not. Its looking into people and human behavior. And seeing the way that people act and the way that they operate in these settings and when theres a camera around. Each one is different. You take stage moms and their children and you have Toddlers and Tiaras and you get to watch these parents abuse their children. Essentially thats what it is. Or you take five girls and you put them in a house with a camera and you call it The Bad Girls Club, all of a sudden these five girls just want to beat the crap out of each other and throw each others mattresses into the pool all day. So its very interesting to see human behavior in these different environments and settings, the way they react to these situations or the problems and their solutions. It really is a peak into the human psyche as far as Im concerned. I don't think its mindless. I think its entertaining because were watching humans react so Im fascinated by it. I think that even goes back to the sex tape thing. Wait, I want to see this because I want to understand. I want to understand this celebrity better. I want to understand this situation better. Its just another part of human behavior and us figuring it out, and teaching us what we dont want to do as well. I love seeing things like that because it shows me what I dont want to do. Thats my reasoning for it.
Stevie TV (pronounced like Stevie Tevie) premiered on Sunday, March 4 on VH1. Ryans first sketches had Kendra breaking into dance anytime anyone chanted Go Kendra, Go Kendra and Justin Bieber (also Ryan) running a Bang Bus. Wait until you see her as Lady Gaga forcing children to explore and reinvent gender definitions.
Ryan got her start making comedy videos on YouTube. If you check out her YouTube channel you can even see her doing a burlesque dance in a sepia tint. Rather than many comedians who have a knack for voices and do impressions, Ryan uses makeup and costume to portray a realistic version of her characters. Perhaps it almost feels like youre watching the real Kim Kardashian knowing what a fool she acts like.
The week before Stevie TV premiered, I spoke with Ryan by phone. As Id hoped our talk went off on tangents that expressed her comic voice, rather than the nuts and bolts of making a show. Stevie TV airs Sunday nights at 11 p.m with repeats throughout the week on VH1.
SG: I believe you share a hairdresser with Missy.
SR: Really, at Hairroin Salon. Thats so funny. Ive been going there for years and theyre pretty much the best hair place in the world in my opinion.
SG: Do they do your hair for your characters or just Stevies hair?
SR: They actually did my hair in the pilot which I didnt get to bring my Hairroin girls onto the show because it was a union job and they were all nonunion and we tried to get them into the union and there was a whole disastrous thing but they have. They used to do a lot of my online videos. A ton of my online videos theyve done the hair in. We have hair tutorials even online that I did with the salon, so yeah thats so crazy. Thats awesome.
SG: So are you familiar with Suicide Girls?
SR: Of course I am, who doesnt know about Suicide Girls? I am very familiar with Suicide Girls? Actually years ago when I first started making YouTube videos, I was approached by, I have no idea who it was anymore, Id have to go on my MySpace and look it up and I dont even know if I remember the password to my MySpace but I actually was approached by one of the Suicide Girls and they had asked me if I wanted to do a shoot to try to get in. I actually have a few friends that have been Suicide Girls and yeah, I feel like Suicide Girls is very pop culture.
SG: Would you maybe play a Suicide Girl in a sketch?
SR: You know what? We actually talked about that. Suicide Girls was one of our ideas but what we wanted to do ended up being a little dark. Thats the only thing that we get. One of our things is we tend to go dark with things sometimes because comedy can darker easily and then our head writer was like, No, you guys are going dark with it so calm down. But hey, you never know. Season two!
SG: What was the idea that was too dark?
SR: It was something about being a Suicide Girl that was dead. Like she actually was a real life Suicide Girl that had killed herself so that was the dark end of it.
SG: Do you actually have any tattoos?
SR: I actually dont have any tattoos surprisingly because Im pretty sure Im the only one of my friends that doesnt have a tattoo. I went through my whole thing in high school where I stretched my ears very big which I now regret because now they look like little cat butt-holes or something weird. I know thats so gross, but thats what they look like. When you stretch your ears and then you take your plugs out, they shrink up and they look like cat butt-holes after. Its just so ugly and I wish I wouldnt have done it but whatever, Ill live. Its just the ear hole. But I had them stretched huge to like 1/8 I think. I had my tongue pierced and my lip pierced. I was all pierced up and had crazy hair in high school and I think I got it all out of my system early on.
SG: Im a big cat lover so I think cat butt-holes are adorable. They're always in my face.
SR: See, thats why I compared it to that because cats are always putting their butts in your face and I love cats too and just animals in general. Im a fan of cat butt-holes. I think theyre cute and theyre little. Who wants big scary ugly ones? Not me.
SG: As someone who likes to dress up, how is your self-image as Stevie?
SR: You know what? This is really weird because no one expects this, but I cant stand myself. Thats why I like being characters. If I wanted to be me I would be like a standup comedian, but I dont wanna be myself. What fun is that? Ive been me my whole life. Thats not very fun. So I really dont even have a view on myself. I dont like being in my own head. I like leaving my head and pretending to be in someone elses head. I like going into different worlds. I live in my world every day. I was born into my world. Im bored of it. So for me I dont like being myself.
SG: Do you like making yourself revolting, like as the Mob Wives?
SR: Oh yes. Actually, it can go both ways. I really love it because its a real transformation and it really makes you feel different. We have one sketch, its a celebrity ghost stories sketch but it involves Lindsay Lohan. Basically Im Lindsay Lohan but Im a demon and I have to do this all day. They blotted my teeth out and made me look super crazy, and it was really fun during it because Ive never done a character like this. Ive never gone to a dark place character-wise. Then I had to go to such a dark place for that that by the time I got home, I was completely freaked out. I couldnt sleep. I was so scared. I didnt even feel like myself in my apartment. I felt like I was a demon haunting my own apartment. I didnt even go to bed until the sun came up because I was terrified. I wigged myself out. Even for Little Loca, when I first started doing Little Loca online I was so consistent with it that I started dreaming in Spanish, and I dont even know Spanish. So I know the toll that these characters can take on you but I never thought it would take me to such a deep dark place like that did in just one day. So that was really interesting for me and I see how people can get wrapped up in characters. I hate to bring it up but Heath Ledger, after I had that experience I was like whoa, I couldnt imagine playing The Joker for months and being in that place in your head. That would be fucking impossible to come back from I feel like. That would be a really scary thing.
SG: How do you feel as Lady Gaga? Did you get any of her mojo?
SR: Oh, you dont even know. First of all, I now love Lady Gaga. Of course before I was like yeah, Lady Gaga, shes awesome, cool, Gaga, whatever. Like I thought she was great and she had her own thing going on, but then after playing her, first of all our Lady Gaga outfits are so awesome and I realize how much effort it takes to just wear those outfits around. I just feel like wow, I have a whole new respect for Lady Gaga. I think shes awesome. I think shes brilliant and I dont use that word lightly. I just think for every character Ive played besides The Kardashians I always leave with a new respect for them, and especially Gaga because she kicks ass at what she does and she does it in the most painful and most incredibly uncomfortable outfits that anyone could ever imagine. And she does it with all her heart and soul. And no one would ever know how uncomfortable she is unless youre in those outfits. Now that I know, I just think that shes awesome and wow, you really, really work hard for what you have. Its not a joke. Its really not. I feel like that about a lot of characters. I didnt really have an opinion on Ke$ha. We have a Ke$ha musical parody and I thought oh, its Ke$ha, whatever. Everyone would say really negative things about her and then after researching her, before we recorded the song, before we wrote it, I had to listen to her albums and read about her and just kind of find that character. After that, after we shot it, I was like I love Ke$ha. I think shes awesome and I wouldnt have developed that love for her if I didnt get to experience her world and get to know her world. On that end it really makes me have a new respect for a lot of artists and see how hard these things really are for some people.
SG: But not the Kardashians?
SR: Not the Kardashians, no. I don't know what it is, but I just feel it just doesnt take much to be a Kardashian.
SG: You have a burlesque video on YouTube. Was burlesque something you were always interested in?
SR: Ooh, yes. This is actually years ago, this is actually how I found YouTube. I was looking up, and this is before the Bettie Page movie. This is far before Bettie Page was cool.
SG: Bettie Page was always cool.
SR: Exactly, but I mean mainstream cool. Bettie Page has always been awesome. At Amoeba, before there was Netflix Streaming and Hulu and all these sites where you can go watch movies, you used to actually have to go to rent movies or go to Amoeba and I found a bunch of Bettie Page, they call them stripteases but she doesnt even strip in them. Theyre just these little films of her dancing around and I bought all of them. Now theyre all over YouTube. You can YouTube em but its like five minute pieces with Bettie Page dancing along in a cute outfit to some music. I was so smitten by them. I just thought it was the epitome of a beautiful woman. Like body-wise, face-wise, personality-wise, I just thought its so classy and so cute. The shit were seeing nowadays with chicks rubbing their vaginas all up in the camera and flashing and just grinding all up on each other. But its so different and back then it was such a scandal for a girl to even dance and be sexy like that. I don't know what it is, I just find it so charming. I became obsessed with these Bettie Page stripteases. Then I just decided I had to try to make my own versions of these. Theyre obviously from the Irving Klaw era when he used to shoot Bettie Page and I found other ones of his with other pinup girls, and just kept discovering more and more from there and I just thought it was the ultimate way to be sexy.
SG: Its funny what you say about spreading and grinding. Im a guy, I look at stuff, but sometimes even I think, Come on, thats just gross. Thats your vagina and A-hole.
SR: No, totally. Its super weird. Theres some things youve got to like make it a little harder to see. Dont put it all out there. If you put the buffet out, people are going to eat it. Thats just the way that it goes.
SG: Or in the first minute. At least build up to minute five or 10.
SR: Exactly, theres gotta be a buildup or something that leads. Just dont lay it all out right away. Youve got to give it to em slowly. Its really interesting the way that things are just out in the open now and like super open open. Ive seen a lot of friends or just people that Ive met all of a sudden their nudes are leaked online, and its not like oh, its them naked. Its them spreadeagle with a giant gaping hole in between their legs that I never wanted to see in my life and is causing me to have acid reflux from looking at it. Its like what? Why are you even taking a photo posed spreadeagle? At least close your legs and take the naked photo. Thats fine, but its just weird. Its just like theres no censor in peoples minds even.
SG: I always say the best way to keep a sex tape from getting out is not to make one.
SR: Thats exactly what I say. See, I have a previous experience that really fucked me up. An ex-boyfriend of mine moved in with me, this was years and years ago. Because I was creating my own content at the time, I have tons of tapes. I still have tons of tapes. Ill always have my little tapes. He had tapes as well. He was a film student. So our tapes were mixed together in our apartment. I had shot my older brothers wedding but none of our tapes were marked. I dont ever write on my tapes what they are so I was literally putting in tape by tape going through seeing what each tape was, looking for my brothers wedding tape. Well, while Im going through these tapes, I come across a video of my boyfriend at the time and his ex-girlfriend having sex on tape. And let me tell you, this was not like oh, theyre just doing it. I cant even believe that someone got this deep into her vagina with a camera. Im like did this camera have sex with you? You fucked this camera Im pretty sure. It was so graphic and gross and I was so shocked. Im like how did this girl let a tape of herself butt naked with a camera inside her vagina, out in the world? If anyone ever brought anything near my vagina like that it would have to be burned up and destroyed afterwards. I cant even imagine how he just left that out in the open and just the things they were doing.
SG: At least he didnt talk you into it.
SR: Oh, if he ever even wouldve said that he wouldve gotten knocked out in a heartbeat. It wouldve been like what? No. But its kind of shocking because I love the female body. Im the first one to say it. I think women are beautiful, all shapes, all sizes. I think that you can photograph the female body and do it in a way to really show how beautiful it is. Theres a certain way that you can do nudity thats tasteful and is about appreciating the female body. And then theres a whole side of it where you can really degrade the female body and make it look very degrading and have it be awful. Thats what I think some of these big name sex tapes are. Its degrading. Its not done in a tasteful way. Its not making them look beautiful. Its not about respecting the female body and showing you how beautiful it can be. Its very weird and I just cant imagine having something like that or doing something like that and not lighting it on fire right after. Then this girl, what are you thinking? I have your sex tape somewhere in my tapes. You dont even fucking know. I could send that to your parents. Why would you want that out in the world? I have no idea. Thats the weirdest thing. What if your kids found it? Its so crazy.
SG: That said, I am a guy. If I hear someone has a sex tape out, I watch it.
SR: Hey, Im a girl and I hear someone has a sex tape out, you damn well bet Im the first one Googling it trying to find a link. Im awful about it but again, its one of those things. Im very much fascinated, thats why I love these reality shows and stuff. People are like oh, this is mindless television. No, its really not. Its looking into people and human behavior. And seeing the way that people act and the way that they operate in these settings and when theres a camera around. Each one is different. You take stage moms and their children and you have Toddlers and Tiaras and you get to watch these parents abuse their children. Essentially thats what it is. Or you take five girls and you put them in a house with a camera and you call it The Bad Girls Club, all of a sudden these five girls just want to beat the crap out of each other and throw each others mattresses into the pool all day. So its very interesting to see human behavior in these different environments and settings, the way they react to these situations or the problems and their solutions. It really is a peak into the human psyche as far as Im concerned. I don't think its mindless. I think its entertaining because were watching humans react so Im fascinated by it. I think that even goes back to the sex tape thing. Wait, I want to see this because I want to understand. I want to understand this celebrity better. I want to understand this situation better. Its just another part of human behavior and us figuring it out, and teaching us what we dont want to do as well. I love seeing things like that because it shows me what I dont want to do. Thats my reasoning for it.