A lot of people out there think thats its not a good idea for these ranting and raving pundit types to have their own TV shows. Well now weve got our very own incensed host on TV, Henry Rollins with the aptly named The Henry Rollins Show. For those who may not know of Henry, both of you, Rollins cuts an imposing figure in the hardest of rock concerts as a seminal member of Black Flag and founder ofRollins Band. A man covered in as many famous tattoos might seem an unlikely candidate for a talk show until you hear Rollins speak. Whatever comes out of his mouth is the truth. Rollins is an astonishingly well read man who is at just as much at home acting alongside Al Pacino as he is vomiting in a Siberian train bathroom.
Check out the official site for The Henry Rollins Show
Daniel Robert Epstein: Was the format change from Henrys Film Corner to The Henry Rollins Show IFCs idea?
Henry Rollins: Yes. As you know last year the show was somewhat film specific. We reviewed films and talked about upcoming DVDs which was fine. But most of the time there is a lot more going on in the world than film. Films do interest me, but everything else interests me too. But it was a job and I took it. I thought it was fun and I got to see movies. I don't say no to work all that often. So we did the season and I thought that we did a good show. We got a lot nice mail. So my manager started gently pressuring IFC for a second season. I didn't think that we would get another season. I just figured, Eh, no one wants it that bad.
So my manager is basically going to IFC and asking about that and he told me that they were going to wait and see how things were going financially for the place. But you can't hold me too long because after a while I just get mad. Im going to put my whole life on hold to see if these people want me or not. I'm like, No, I'm going to book a tour. I'm going to go on the road and do my thing. He was like Well, no. You have to wait. Just wait on this. I told him that I love him madly, but I'm not going to sit and wait for three months for IFC to make up their minds and lose my tour down the road because I didn't book it when I needed to. Then they said, Hey! Whoa! We want another season? We want to make it weekly, not monthly. We want to call it The Henry Rollins Show and open up the scope of the thing and let you do whatever you want. We would like to have you put music on the show if that's cool. I said, Yeah. I'm with all of that. It wasn't one of those ultimatum things though. I wasn't like, You guys better hire me again or I'm going on tour.
DRE: Theyre not used to dealing with someone who doesnt care whether he has a show or not.
HR: Well it's interesting to have options. Every once in a while I blow up at the producers. We work hard and they're good guys, but creatively you're very often at odds because what were doing can be intense.
DRE: No matter what you do, every episode isnt going to be perfect.
HR: Right, also I would say I want a certain band and they would tell me no because they think that band will alienate people. I went, Whoa. It says The Henry Rollins Show. Two of those four words happen to be my name. You don't tell me that will alienate people. You just tell me when you will get them on the show. You're the producer. You work for me. You don't tell me what's good. I tell you what's good. We get into that every once in a while. It's not like they're bad people. It's just that we're all headstrong and we're all thinking that we have the right idea and that they are all very good. But one time one of them said, Henry, you need this show and this paycheck. [producer] Heidi [May] went up to them and said, Boys, he doesn't really need the show or the paycheck. He can walk away from this right now. Be careful because he will. Piss him off and watch him leave. Make the show less than great and watch him leave. I'd never burn IFC, but if all of a sudden they said, We're going to turn the show around and you're going to interview everyone. I'd be like, Get your mom to do it. I can't. I'm out.
DRE: What kind of bands are you getting?
HR: I wanted Wolf Eyes. They're pretty great. Either you get them or you run from the room.
DRE: I bet Wolf Eyes was the band that IFC said would alienate people [laughs].
HR: Yeah. I was like, You know what? You guys are in the wrong business. Your job is to tell me that youre going to call Sub Pop today. I'm not a tyrant or the big dangerous baby, but every once in a while these guys want to be a little safe, and I'm like, Why? This is the time that you finally get to do what you want to do. On my radio show I just play what I want. With my band I just do what I want. On the talk show I just want to talk about what I want. Isn't that what the whole idea is, live and uncut. So it's interesting because it is a collaborative thing. These producers have some good and bad ideas. I write most of the show and they write some of the show. I read something that they write every week. So I have to trust them and work with them and that's a new experience for me. I'm learning and I'm growing and little by little Im letting other people steer the thing. They're really good guys and they're funny too. Some of their writing is better than anything that I could ever do. So it's been a learning experience all around.
DRE: Do you interview the band after they play?
HR: No, it's like the Letterman thing. They just come out and play and I interview another guest. I throw to Heidi and she will be pre-recorded and say something like this Hey Henry, you idiot. I'm down here with Wolf Eyes.
There is a cool indie band called Deadboy and the Elephant Men. Heidi heard it and was like, Henry, take this home tonight and play it. It's like my new favorite album. I put it on and it has become my favorite album of the moment. We had to get them on the show. The producers were like, We don't know about these guys. I was like, Won't it be cool when we're the first people to put them on TV because trust me, a year from now they're going to be really big and they're going to have a great moment and we will have done it first. Hopefully we get to air stuff like that before MTV goes, New band alert! or whatever they do.
DRE: If you did everything that the producers wanted you to do, what kind of show would it be?
HR: It would be another kind of show but I think that everyone understands that when you put my name on something there's going to be some outspokenness, some confrontations, some fans will see stuff on the show that they might not like or there will be some attitudes or points of view you might not agree. But that's what happens when you ask me to do a show. Don't come to me and ask me to do someone else's show. There are a lot of people who would be happy to read whatever is on the teleprompter. They just want a gig and they will interview anyone. I don't want to do that. There are people who really want to be on TV and interview Drew Barrymore and Jennifer Love Hewitt, who I have no problem with, but I don't want them on my show because they don't interest me. If you're Letterman it's like, Tonight your guest is Jennifer Love Hewitt. Make it rock. He goes like, Okay and he does it. Whereas I go, Not on my show.
It's a different career path and I'm not putting it down because it's as valid as anything that I'm doing. You ask Ozzy [Osbourne], You do Paranoid every single night, You ask Mick Jagger, You guys tour every year, but you do that same 15 songs with some new ones around that. Miles Davis, Duke Ellington and John Coltrane would've never done that. Those guys said, We're putting a show and we're doing something that people want to see. With Rollins Band we go out and we only do the new album. People scream for old songs, but it's like, That's why they make records, kids. They're dinosaur bones. Go play in them and remember back when.
DRE: Will you be interviewing directors, politicians, musicians?
HR: I want them all. A question I've been getting all day is All of the guests seem pretty much aligned to my way of thinking. What's the challenge in that? Thats a good point. I don't mind having someone on who would disagree with me, like a guy who loves George W. Bush and thinks that the war in Iraq is the war on terror and we're winning and all of that. But could I really make that rock in the seven minute interview segment? If I had someone on with an opposing point of view on, to be fair this guy or girl would need five minutes to setup and establish their point of view. We don't have that amount of time. It's just quicker to book a person on the show who's movie you like, who's book you like.
If the show was on everyday and we could do a 20 minute interview with everyone, I would like to get on one of those young, strident like Republican youth because I admire all of that youthful energy. I just wonder how much of the real world has to get thrown in their face, as old people like us have had. It's no longer living at mom's. It's taxes. It's rent and mortgage. The practicality of all of that strips you of your idealism because your idealism doesn't really work for you when you're taking out someone else's garbage.
DRE: I watched your spoken word show on IFC a few weeks back. Last time I saw your show on TV was the Comedy Central one. The new one was much more technically proficient.
HR: Yeah, well we had a different production company. That was a BBC4 thing shot at a club in London. They wanted to tape me doing two small club shows so I flew to Morocco for a few days. I dug that place and then I flew into London and did some shows and then somewhere else. It is what it is. It was a small club with bad lights and a couple of cameras thrown up and I think that I had a chunk of food in the corner of my mouth. This was one was evolved and was easier to light with the higher ceilings. There was more money in the budget. You get what you pay for.
DRE: Did you sit in on the editing for the new one?
HR: No, sir. I did that show when I was on tour. The next night I was in Philadelphia and then the next night I was back in LA and the next night I went to Europe. I just got back yesterday afternoon from Dublin and went right to New York. I didn't even remember what day the thing aired. All I know is that my manager wrote me and said, I've seen the edit and I approved it. He has a real good knack for editing and he's edited all of my other talking DVDs. A TV special is a very low priority for me. It's already in the can and there's nothing that I can do about or for it.
DRE: One of my favorite parts of the show was when you described the Trans-Siberian train. That certainly sounded like a time, not a good time but a time.
HR: Yeah. For me I go for those times that aren't necessarily good because I learn from them. I went on the Trans-Siberian train trip looking for an experience to write about, something to endure, something to strengthen my character. I knew what I was getting into. I knew that it was going to be seven days alone in a freezing train car during the coldest time of the year in Siberia and I said, Book it.
DRE: Whats the next trip?
HR: I'm doing the next two train rides. They have the Trans-Mongolian and the Trans-Manchurian. I'm doing the Trans-Mongolian in December.
DRE: Is that very similar?
HR: Yeah. It starts at the same station. There are two days of the Trans-Siberian and then it splits off across Mongolia and dumps you in Beijing. I was going to spend a couple of days in Beijing and then go from there to Shanghai and check that place out. I've never been to China. It's not a part of the world that interests me that much beyond a geo-strategic interest, as far as them being a rising economy. But I do want to go to China and I do want to take all of those different train rides. I want to do all three in three years and so by the end of '06 I have to get the Trans-Mongolian in and then I'll do the Trans-Manchurian in '07. Then I will have done the three longest train rides in the world.
DRE: You cant perform in China though, right?
HR: No. Just going for a chapter of the book. I want to make an interesting life until I shuffle off. I want a Harrison Ford movie for a life. It takes a little bit of money and a passport and I have both. I'm not married. I don't have any kids. I love kids but I don't want any. I love women but I dont want one attached to me. I want to grab my passport and go.
DRE: You must have a great passport.
HR: Yeah. I have to have with me all the time to get into these buildings, but rarely do you see the ones with these additions glued in.
DRE: What do they say when they see at all these airports?
HR: When I travel and go to a place like Russia, they keep flipping the pages and looking at me. This means more to me than a relationship. I've had a girlfriend before and that was cool, but I got bored eventually and it didn't last. I've never had a relationship that lasted longer than a few months. When I was younger I went with a girl on and off for like a year and we're still friends. She has a little boy who I really love. He's three years old and he's great. Every once in a while I'll go over to their house and play with the kid, but past that I like my schedule and I want to travel and see the world and do stuff. The world interests me more than someone welcoming me. I live alone.
DRE: As for movies, did you see Crash and Brokeback Mountain?
HR: I saw Crash and I didnt like it. I havent seen Brokeback Mountain yet. This might be politically incorrect, but it will very likely be a very long time before I do see it. Gay cowboys on the range? I'm really not interested.
DRE: It was actually very good.
HR: Cool. You know what, I guarantee you that I will eventually see it after I see a whole bunch of other DVDs that I have on my self. I have a lot of Ingmar Bergman to get through. I just feel compelled to watch that whole box set. I just want to see The Seventh Seal, Through a Glass Darkly. I have some [Franois] Truffaut films lined up. Like a lot of people, it's easier to buy a DVD than finding time to watch the damn thing. This year I'm going to try and watch about 20 to 50 films. I'm mainly director specific. I'd rather study a director than an actor. I'd rather check out [Akira] Kurosawa rather than everything that Toshir Mifune did. I'd rather see everything that Hitchcock did rather than whatever Kim Novak did. There is a lot of Werner Herzog stuff that I've never seen like some of his documentaries. There's a lot of [Rainer Werner] Fassbinder that I've never seen.
DRE: Do you ever watch DVDs when youre traveling?
HR: Sometimes. I've never taken DVDs with me on tour. I'm going to start because some of those nights in hotels I'm like, Man, even on a small screen I could've watched a movie instead of watching Larry King.
DRE: From your show I know you visit the VA hospitals a lot, does George W. Bush ever do that?
HR: He does, a lot. I asked around. They said, Yeah. He comes a lot. He just keeps it under the wire. But he's there all the time. Thats great. I'm so happy about that because he should.
DRE: Why do you think his mindset wouldnt change after that?
HR: Because I truly believe that he really thinks he's fighting the war on terror and good against evil and all of that happy shit. He's been coached into it and he's probably not the worst guy. My anger for him has dissipated somewhat, I've shifted it over to Cheney. I think he's such a smart guy. Condoleeza Rice, smart woman. Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Karl Rove, these are some of the most insanely brightest people of their generation. With Bush you can't say that. I think that Bush gets coached like, Look, you're doing a good thing here. This is our follow up to 9/11. He kind of goes, Okay. Okay. I think that he might think that he's doing the right thing which is why when people hit him with these questions he almost acts like, Why would you ask me that Its Cheney, Rove, and Rice who really run this country. I think that they give Bush stuff and he trots out there and puts the face on it.
by Daniel Robert Epstein
SG Username: AndersWolleck
Check out the official site for The Henry Rollins Show
Daniel Robert Epstein: Was the format change from Henrys Film Corner to The Henry Rollins Show IFCs idea?
Henry Rollins: Yes. As you know last year the show was somewhat film specific. We reviewed films and talked about upcoming DVDs which was fine. But most of the time there is a lot more going on in the world than film. Films do interest me, but everything else interests me too. But it was a job and I took it. I thought it was fun and I got to see movies. I don't say no to work all that often. So we did the season and I thought that we did a good show. We got a lot nice mail. So my manager started gently pressuring IFC for a second season. I didn't think that we would get another season. I just figured, Eh, no one wants it that bad.
So my manager is basically going to IFC and asking about that and he told me that they were going to wait and see how things were going financially for the place. But you can't hold me too long because after a while I just get mad. Im going to put my whole life on hold to see if these people want me or not. I'm like, No, I'm going to book a tour. I'm going to go on the road and do my thing. He was like Well, no. You have to wait. Just wait on this. I told him that I love him madly, but I'm not going to sit and wait for three months for IFC to make up their minds and lose my tour down the road because I didn't book it when I needed to. Then they said, Hey! Whoa! We want another season? We want to make it weekly, not monthly. We want to call it The Henry Rollins Show and open up the scope of the thing and let you do whatever you want. We would like to have you put music on the show if that's cool. I said, Yeah. I'm with all of that. It wasn't one of those ultimatum things though. I wasn't like, You guys better hire me again or I'm going on tour.
DRE: Theyre not used to dealing with someone who doesnt care whether he has a show or not.
HR: Well it's interesting to have options. Every once in a while I blow up at the producers. We work hard and they're good guys, but creatively you're very often at odds because what were doing can be intense.
DRE: No matter what you do, every episode isnt going to be perfect.
HR: Right, also I would say I want a certain band and they would tell me no because they think that band will alienate people. I went, Whoa. It says The Henry Rollins Show. Two of those four words happen to be my name. You don't tell me that will alienate people. You just tell me when you will get them on the show. You're the producer. You work for me. You don't tell me what's good. I tell you what's good. We get into that every once in a while. It's not like they're bad people. It's just that we're all headstrong and we're all thinking that we have the right idea and that they are all very good. But one time one of them said, Henry, you need this show and this paycheck. [producer] Heidi [May] went up to them and said, Boys, he doesn't really need the show or the paycheck. He can walk away from this right now. Be careful because he will. Piss him off and watch him leave. Make the show less than great and watch him leave. I'd never burn IFC, but if all of a sudden they said, We're going to turn the show around and you're going to interview everyone. I'd be like, Get your mom to do it. I can't. I'm out.
DRE: What kind of bands are you getting?
HR: I wanted Wolf Eyes. They're pretty great. Either you get them or you run from the room.
DRE: I bet Wolf Eyes was the band that IFC said would alienate people [laughs].
HR: Yeah. I was like, You know what? You guys are in the wrong business. Your job is to tell me that youre going to call Sub Pop today. I'm not a tyrant or the big dangerous baby, but every once in a while these guys want to be a little safe, and I'm like, Why? This is the time that you finally get to do what you want to do. On my radio show I just play what I want. With my band I just do what I want. On the talk show I just want to talk about what I want. Isn't that what the whole idea is, live and uncut. So it's interesting because it is a collaborative thing. These producers have some good and bad ideas. I write most of the show and they write some of the show. I read something that they write every week. So I have to trust them and work with them and that's a new experience for me. I'm learning and I'm growing and little by little Im letting other people steer the thing. They're really good guys and they're funny too. Some of their writing is better than anything that I could ever do. So it's been a learning experience all around.
DRE: Do you interview the band after they play?
HR: No, it's like the Letterman thing. They just come out and play and I interview another guest. I throw to Heidi and she will be pre-recorded and say something like this Hey Henry, you idiot. I'm down here with Wolf Eyes.
There is a cool indie band called Deadboy and the Elephant Men. Heidi heard it and was like, Henry, take this home tonight and play it. It's like my new favorite album. I put it on and it has become my favorite album of the moment. We had to get them on the show. The producers were like, We don't know about these guys. I was like, Won't it be cool when we're the first people to put them on TV because trust me, a year from now they're going to be really big and they're going to have a great moment and we will have done it first. Hopefully we get to air stuff like that before MTV goes, New band alert! or whatever they do.
DRE: If you did everything that the producers wanted you to do, what kind of show would it be?
HR: It would be another kind of show but I think that everyone understands that when you put my name on something there's going to be some outspokenness, some confrontations, some fans will see stuff on the show that they might not like or there will be some attitudes or points of view you might not agree. But that's what happens when you ask me to do a show. Don't come to me and ask me to do someone else's show. There are a lot of people who would be happy to read whatever is on the teleprompter. They just want a gig and they will interview anyone. I don't want to do that. There are people who really want to be on TV and interview Drew Barrymore and Jennifer Love Hewitt, who I have no problem with, but I don't want them on my show because they don't interest me. If you're Letterman it's like, Tonight your guest is Jennifer Love Hewitt. Make it rock. He goes like, Okay and he does it. Whereas I go, Not on my show.
It's a different career path and I'm not putting it down because it's as valid as anything that I'm doing. You ask Ozzy [Osbourne], You do Paranoid every single night, You ask Mick Jagger, You guys tour every year, but you do that same 15 songs with some new ones around that. Miles Davis, Duke Ellington and John Coltrane would've never done that. Those guys said, We're putting a show and we're doing something that people want to see. With Rollins Band we go out and we only do the new album. People scream for old songs, but it's like, That's why they make records, kids. They're dinosaur bones. Go play in them and remember back when.
DRE: Will you be interviewing directors, politicians, musicians?
HR: I want them all. A question I've been getting all day is All of the guests seem pretty much aligned to my way of thinking. What's the challenge in that? Thats a good point. I don't mind having someone on who would disagree with me, like a guy who loves George W. Bush and thinks that the war in Iraq is the war on terror and we're winning and all of that. But could I really make that rock in the seven minute interview segment? If I had someone on with an opposing point of view on, to be fair this guy or girl would need five minutes to setup and establish their point of view. We don't have that amount of time. It's just quicker to book a person on the show who's movie you like, who's book you like.
If the show was on everyday and we could do a 20 minute interview with everyone, I would like to get on one of those young, strident like Republican youth because I admire all of that youthful energy. I just wonder how much of the real world has to get thrown in their face, as old people like us have had. It's no longer living at mom's. It's taxes. It's rent and mortgage. The practicality of all of that strips you of your idealism because your idealism doesn't really work for you when you're taking out someone else's garbage.
DRE: I watched your spoken word show on IFC a few weeks back. Last time I saw your show on TV was the Comedy Central one. The new one was much more technically proficient.
HR: Yeah, well we had a different production company. That was a BBC4 thing shot at a club in London. They wanted to tape me doing two small club shows so I flew to Morocco for a few days. I dug that place and then I flew into London and did some shows and then somewhere else. It is what it is. It was a small club with bad lights and a couple of cameras thrown up and I think that I had a chunk of food in the corner of my mouth. This was one was evolved and was easier to light with the higher ceilings. There was more money in the budget. You get what you pay for.
DRE: Did you sit in on the editing for the new one?
HR: No, sir. I did that show when I was on tour. The next night I was in Philadelphia and then the next night I was back in LA and the next night I went to Europe. I just got back yesterday afternoon from Dublin and went right to New York. I didn't even remember what day the thing aired. All I know is that my manager wrote me and said, I've seen the edit and I approved it. He has a real good knack for editing and he's edited all of my other talking DVDs. A TV special is a very low priority for me. It's already in the can and there's nothing that I can do about or for it.
DRE: One of my favorite parts of the show was when you described the Trans-Siberian train. That certainly sounded like a time, not a good time but a time.
HR: Yeah. For me I go for those times that aren't necessarily good because I learn from them. I went on the Trans-Siberian train trip looking for an experience to write about, something to endure, something to strengthen my character. I knew what I was getting into. I knew that it was going to be seven days alone in a freezing train car during the coldest time of the year in Siberia and I said, Book it.
DRE: Whats the next trip?
HR: I'm doing the next two train rides. They have the Trans-Mongolian and the Trans-Manchurian. I'm doing the Trans-Mongolian in December.
DRE: Is that very similar?
HR: Yeah. It starts at the same station. There are two days of the Trans-Siberian and then it splits off across Mongolia and dumps you in Beijing. I was going to spend a couple of days in Beijing and then go from there to Shanghai and check that place out. I've never been to China. It's not a part of the world that interests me that much beyond a geo-strategic interest, as far as them being a rising economy. But I do want to go to China and I do want to take all of those different train rides. I want to do all three in three years and so by the end of '06 I have to get the Trans-Mongolian in and then I'll do the Trans-Manchurian in '07. Then I will have done the three longest train rides in the world.
DRE: You cant perform in China though, right?
HR: No. Just going for a chapter of the book. I want to make an interesting life until I shuffle off. I want a Harrison Ford movie for a life. It takes a little bit of money and a passport and I have both. I'm not married. I don't have any kids. I love kids but I don't want any. I love women but I dont want one attached to me. I want to grab my passport and go.
DRE: You must have a great passport.
HR: Yeah. I have to have with me all the time to get into these buildings, but rarely do you see the ones with these additions glued in.
DRE: What do they say when they see at all these airports?
HR: When I travel and go to a place like Russia, they keep flipping the pages and looking at me. This means more to me than a relationship. I've had a girlfriend before and that was cool, but I got bored eventually and it didn't last. I've never had a relationship that lasted longer than a few months. When I was younger I went with a girl on and off for like a year and we're still friends. She has a little boy who I really love. He's three years old and he's great. Every once in a while I'll go over to their house and play with the kid, but past that I like my schedule and I want to travel and see the world and do stuff. The world interests me more than someone welcoming me. I live alone.
DRE: As for movies, did you see Crash and Brokeback Mountain?
HR: I saw Crash and I didnt like it. I havent seen Brokeback Mountain yet. This might be politically incorrect, but it will very likely be a very long time before I do see it. Gay cowboys on the range? I'm really not interested.
DRE: It was actually very good.
HR: Cool. You know what, I guarantee you that I will eventually see it after I see a whole bunch of other DVDs that I have on my self. I have a lot of Ingmar Bergman to get through. I just feel compelled to watch that whole box set. I just want to see The Seventh Seal, Through a Glass Darkly. I have some [Franois] Truffaut films lined up. Like a lot of people, it's easier to buy a DVD than finding time to watch the damn thing. This year I'm going to try and watch about 20 to 50 films. I'm mainly director specific. I'd rather study a director than an actor. I'd rather check out [Akira] Kurosawa rather than everything that Toshir Mifune did. I'd rather see everything that Hitchcock did rather than whatever Kim Novak did. There is a lot of Werner Herzog stuff that I've never seen like some of his documentaries. There's a lot of [Rainer Werner] Fassbinder that I've never seen.
DRE: Do you ever watch DVDs when youre traveling?
HR: Sometimes. I've never taken DVDs with me on tour. I'm going to start because some of those nights in hotels I'm like, Man, even on a small screen I could've watched a movie instead of watching Larry King.
DRE: From your show I know you visit the VA hospitals a lot, does George W. Bush ever do that?
HR: He does, a lot. I asked around. They said, Yeah. He comes a lot. He just keeps it under the wire. But he's there all the time. Thats great. I'm so happy about that because he should.
DRE: Why do you think his mindset wouldnt change after that?
HR: Because I truly believe that he really thinks he's fighting the war on terror and good against evil and all of that happy shit. He's been coached into it and he's probably not the worst guy. My anger for him has dissipated somewhat, I've shifted it over to Cheney. I think he's such a smart guy. Condoleeza Rice, smart woman. Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Karl Rove, these are some of the most insanely brightest people of their generation. With Bush you can't say that. I think that Bush gets coached like, Look, you're doing a good thing here. This is our follow up to 9/11. He kind of goes, Okay. Okay. I think that he might think that he's doing the right thing which is why when people hit him with these questions he almost acts like, Why would you ask me that Its Cheney, Rove, and Rice who really run this country. I think that they give Bush stuff and he trots out there and puts the face on it.
by Daniel Robert Epstein
SG Username: AndersWolleck
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mckenzie:
Fucking hot! loved him on SOA!
nile_:
this is great