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Kash

Kash

Zimbabwe
May 2004

JUL 19, 2004 06:50 PM

Okay here are the lyrics and why i think this is one of the lamest songs

I'm not a perfect person ----who the hell is perfect?
There's many things I wish I didn't do -- how pathetic! why can't you not do them?
But I continue learning
I never meant to do those things to you really? then who did you mean to do them to?
And so I have to say before I goso this is a break up song....
That I just want you to know

I've found a reason for me
To change who I used to be
A reason to start over new
And the reason is you what? now that your leaving? you are going to start making improvements and the next chick is gonna be oh so happy that your a better, more considerate person and i get what? oh yea to know that your reason for being a better person is cuz you were a fuck up with me.. gee thanx. good to know

I'm sorry that I hurt you
It's something I must live with everyday yeah.. sure.. your living with it everyday as you move on with your life being the person you should of been with someone new..
And all the pain I put you through
I wish that I could take it all away
And be the one who catches all your tears
That's why I need you to hear

I've found a reason for me
To change who I used to be
A reason to start over new
And the reason is you
And the reason is you
And the reason is you
And the reason is you

I'm not a perfect person
I never meant to do those things to you
And so I have to say before I go
That I just want you to know

this guy's reason for being a better person is someone he is breaking up with.. that is bogus! he should of been the better person to begin with and his reason should be himself. the moment someone else has to carry the burden for you doing what you should, thats the moment you give yourself a built in excuse to fuck up. what happens when your reason(the other person) doesn't live upto your ideals? when your reason does something shitty? well now you can be an asshole again, right?

Flannery

Flannery

Havertown, PA
March 2004

JUL 19, 2004 07:01 PM

i think you've given this band too much credit , not only by the fact that you listened to the song, let alone that you tried to interpret this trash

ed4grammar

[Edited on Jul 19, 2004 by scrantonian]

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

JUL 19, 2004 07:02 PM

This song makes me want to stick rusty nails in my ears and broken glass in my underpants.

The_Gentleman

The_Gentleman

Katy, TX
April 2004

JUL 19, 2004 07:23 PM

It sells records, which in turn gets played on the radio, which in turn gets him fans...many of them women because of his appeal as a rocker they'd like to bone...So on tour, after banging groupie after groupie, he realized...Each one is making him a better lay for the next one...Thus, the birth of this very touching, very heatfelt song of one night stands...

Now, all of you, on with your lives...

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

JUL 19, 2004 07:28 PM

Okay...you put some time into this...

I just hate the song because it's boring, unoriginal and gets overplayed more than any other song lately.

Koleeta

Koleeta

Los Angeles, CA
May 2003

JUL 19, 2004 07:28 PM

Well yeah if you pic k every song apart like that I'm sure a great percentage of all songs you like would be considered crap. I think it's pretty obvious that most pop songs don't really have much substance to them.

I, personally, am so sick of hearing the damn song.

tonkakatt

tonkakatt

Boston, MA
June 2004

JUL 19, 2004 07:33 PM

ya know I wasn't clear if it was a break up song or a pitiful plee to take him back, now that I've read the lyrics I'd say both, but I think he only wants sex with her until he finds the next person that he'll be a better person with....or something like that

Kash

Kash

Zimbabwe
May 2004

JUL 19, 2004 07:38 PM

FreakPirate said:
Okay...you put some time into this...

I just hate the song because it's boring, unoriginal and gets overplayed more than any other song lately.



It does get overplayed!!! I couldn't help tear it apart cuz some young girls i know that actually like this song. eeewww and because its on the radio (i'm lazy and don't have my fave cd's in the car) i've heard enough times to actually put into words whats wrong with it.

Kash

Kash

Zimbabwe
May 2004

JUL 19, 2004 07:40 PM

Koleeta said:
Well yeah if you pic k every song apart like that I'm sure a great percentage of all songs you like would be considered crap. I think it's pretty obvious that most pop songs don't really have much substance to them.

I, personally, am so sick of hearing the damn song.




This is so true, alot of songs become crap when you read the lyrics.. it sad. frown *grabs a beer and puts on some beatles music*

Bridget

Bridget

HOPEFUL

Nauru

JUL 19, 2004 07:43 PM

Wow, that sure was a lot of effort.

Tekky

Tekky

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

JUL 19, 2004 07:54 PM

i like the song.

but i agree that picking apart ANYTHING to that depth would make a song suck.

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

JUL 19, 2004 07:59 PM

I saw the video, and I watched the whole thing just to find out who the band was. I didn't like the song, and I was doubly disappointed to find out that I had wasted four minutes watching a hoobastank video

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

JUL 19, 2004 08:13 PM

They're the new Hootie and the Blowfish.

Kash

Kash

Zimbabwe
May 2004

JUL 19, 2004 08:56 PM

stockula said:
They're the new Hootie and the Blowfish.



yeah and i hate them too.
puke

Kash

Kash

Zimbabwe
May 2004

JUL 19, 2004 08:59 PM

Tekky said:
i like the song.

but i agree that picking apart ANYTHING to that depth would make a song suck.




I understand there are those that will like the song, even if i can't but i didn't need to pick it apart too much - for me it sucked to begin with.

As for ANYTHING sucking, if picked apart? now i have to disagree. John lennon wrote some kick ass songs, i defy you to pick apart 'Come together' or 'Imagine"

Tekky

Tekky

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

JUL 19, 2004 10:28 PM

you want me to pick apart a john lennon song based on the style you've done it in?

alright then.


Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee who the fuck has their hair that long? are you kidding me?
Got to be a joker he just do what he please

He wear no shoeshine he got toe-jam football
He got monkey finger he shoot coca-cola monkey finger? what the fuck does that mean?
He say "I know you, you know me"
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free
Come together right now over me

He bag production he got walrus gumboot is this guy high?
He got Ono sideboard he one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease now this guy's got disease? christ...
Come together right now over me

He roller-coaster he got early warning
He got muddy water he one mojo filter
He say "One and one and one is three" well no shit.
Got to be good-looking 'cause he's so hard to see
Come together right now over me



see what i did there?

i'm not trying to insult you, i'm trying to show you what you did. it's like you just randomly picked out a line and ripped it up just for the sake of ripping it up.






for this key reason. the song is about a guy who ended up hurting someone he cares about, feels like shit for it for once in his life, and realized he wants to change his ways for her because he wants to stay with her. not leave her for someone else. like "as i'm walking out the door, i just want to tell you that you've changed me and i want to make myself a better person for you."

it may not be your thing, but picking a song apart using just about as much substance as you claim the song has, doesn't really back up your argument.

[Edited on Jul 19, 2004 by Tekky]

burstandbloom

burstandbloom

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

JUL 19, 2004 10:46 PM

is there really only 1 reason that Hoobastank sucks
?

Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

JUL 19, 2004 10:50 PM

YES. Someone reads the lyrics out loud. You see, if we did this with all shitty rock the public would wise up a'quick.

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

JUL 19, 2004 11:15 PM

Tekky and her taste in music smile

Tekky

Tekky

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

JUL 19, 2004 11:18 PM

^^^ pssh.

to each their own, my friend.

wink

Kash

Kash

Zimbabwe
May 2004

JUL 20, 2004 12:12 AM

Tekky said:
you want me to pick apart a john lennon song based on the style you've done it in?

alright then.


Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee who the fuck has their hair that long? are you kidding me?
Got to be a joker he just do what he please

He wear no shoeshine he got toe-jam football
He got monkey finger he shoot coca-cola monkey finger? what the fuck does that mean?
He say "I know you, you know me"
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free
Come together right now over me

He bag production he got walrus gumboot is this guy high?
He got Ono sideboard he one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease now this guy's got disease? christ...
Come together right now over me

He roller-coaster he got early warning
He got muddy water he one mojo filter
He say "One and one and one is three" well no shit.
Got to be good-looking 'cause he's so hard to see
Come together right now over me



see what i did there?

i'm not trying to insult you, i'm trying to show you what you did. it's like you just randomly picked out a line and ripped it up just for the sake of ripping it up.

for this key reason. the song is about a guy who ended up hurting someone he cares about, feels like shit for it for once in his life, and realized he wants to change his ways for her because he wants to stay with her. not leave her for someone else. like "as i'm walking out the door, i just want to tell you that you've changed me and i want to make myself a better person for you."

it may not be your thing, but picking a song apart using just about as much substance as you claim the song has, doesn't really back up your argument.

[Edited on Jul 19, 2004 by Tekky]



Well i didn't randomly take a line. i took the essence of the song, the whole idea, and said it is lame. *here comes my opinion- ya i know obvious but this is the obligatory i don't want to offend you thing to say* His making himself better for her, his reason being her, is lame. a person's being a good person or bettering themselves should not be dependant on another person. for what happens when that other person does something shitty? or no longer lives upto this pedistal of perfection? a person should be a better person for them self. for it is in truely loving oneself that one can grow to really love unconditionally others.

As for your remarks on 'Come together"

Some might say its about homeless people on the street not being so different from you and me. I've also heard some say its a slam on Paul, at this point in their careers, the Beatles were very hostile and falling apart. If it were of those lyrics that point to Paul are: Here comes old flattop (Paul wore a flat top
hairstyle in the pre-Beatles days. He wear no shoeshine (Abbey Road -
Paul has no shoes). He got monkey finger (a bass player usually has
walking fingers that go all over the place.) He say "I know you, you
know me" You say yes, I say no ... John was very critical of Paul's
lyrics and deemed them banal. Got to be good-looking 'cause he's so hard
to see Paul the cute one.
Basically, the song has alot of meaning for its author and gives to a number of interpretations. Its not generic, or simple but highly complex with vivid imagery and has lasted the decades.
I doubt very many ppl will really even remember the name of Hooberskanks song, much less their band name.

thank you for taking the time to defend the song, you made a strong case for it. i just don't agree with your assessment.

Tekky

Tekky

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

JUL 20, 2004 02:05 AM

i totally wasn't picking apart the song on purpose, i just used it as an example. smile it's a rad song, lennon is a genius.

ChezGeek

ChezGeek

Port Orchard, WA
January 2004

JUL 20, 2004 02:15 AM

Tekky said:
i totally wasn't picking apart the song on purpose, i just used it as an example. smile it's a rad song, lennon is a genius.


and you are funny as hell biggrin that was classic...(teh long post.. lennon IS a genius)

Tekky

Tekky

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

JUL 20, 2004 03:22 AM

hey man i'm up at 6:30am, i have nothing better to do. wink

JohnnyForeigner

JohnnyForeigner

United Kingdom
July 2003

JUL 20, 2004 08:38 AM

Lyrics are over-rated. Motorcycle Emptiness makes toss-all sense (even the guy who wrote it said so) but is simply one of the greatest songs ever.

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