An open letter to group admins

A message to exclusive groups and other "private" online communities:

Let me first say I have no problem with exclusionary groups so long as they are based on a person's character. A group which is formed for a purpose should have the right to exclude from it's rolls persons who would defame, derail, or otherwise inhibit the functioning of said group.

To require numerical achievements for entrance into such a group, however, strikes me as unfair, counter-productive, and inherently stupid. It is not wrong to seek out members who will be positive contributors to discussion or to more closely scrutinize potential members who do not have established reputations in the community at large, but to set strict communicative benchmarks - posts per month, blogs per week, pics in profile, non-model friends, etc - not only turns aside many positive community members who may simply spend time on other activities, but encourages the filling of message boards and forums with the exact kind of redundancy and tripe it is the goal of exclusive groups to reduce.

When I have something to add to a discussion I will say it. I do not apologize for failing to see the purpose behind being the 3000th person to tell a model she is hot or the 70th person to agree that oral sex is pleasurable, and I refuse to wrack my brain for mundane topics on which to blog simply to please a group administrator.

Hopefully this post will not go unnoticed by groups I attempt to join and the administrator may pause to reconsider his or her specific criteria. If not though we shall simply continue to live our lives apart, unable to potentially enrich the others', having nothing to blame for the loss but narrow mindedness and sloth.

If you are not willing to fully participate in this community i dont see how getting into the groups you are interested in would beneficial to you or anybody else. I mean you said it yourself :

. If thats how you feel about those groups which are public then i cant imagine you would find groups which are private different.

Plus not all the models get 3000+ comments and i think i can speak for every model on this site (whether they do have such an amount of comments or not) when i say they all like to read them and appreciate them.

But im just probably wasting my time here because i doubt you will find my response satisfactory.

Well said Count

To reply to your comments in reverse order, Count, I find your response quite satisfactory. It is exactly this type of dialogue I look for and enjoy.

I can see now that my use of comments on picture sets as an example was a bad one. I did not mean to imply that the models do not appreciate praise nor that I am unappreciative of your willingness to get naked and take beautiful photographs. What I meant by that sentence is that I think there comes a point in any conversation where simply agreeing with all the previous statements serves no productive purpose. Picture sets are perhaps an exception as who doesn't like hearing more good things about their own nude photos? I am obviously unable to say.

The main point of my letter was that participation level in an online community cannot be quantitatively measured. I would consider comments like yours and Pyke's to be more indicative of active participation than 20 comments of a lesser nature. I readily admit my standards may be too high or my expectations unreasonable, but I have not had the opportunity to find out. If it turns out that private groups, especially ones established with a certain purpose, have as much fluff and redundancy as public ones then I shall be disappointed and will have to find sources of entertainment elsewhere. Obviously some, like ones devoted to SGs or Hopefuls, have only status qualifications, but if ones with only participation requirements turn out to be no different than public ones I would wonder why they are private.

Disclaimer: I have not yet defined what I mean by "fluff and redundancy" and do not have the time to at the moment, so before detrimental assumptions are made I would like to say I will provide definitions if anyone cares to hear them.

To Cash: lol.

Comment counts don't always matter in joining private groups. 3000 comments saying "ZOMG! UR TITS R HAWT!" isn't going to get you into any of my groups. Most private groups are private for the protection of it's members - people suffering from illnesses, regional groups that have parties in member's homes, etc. Showing activity in public groups, commenting people's blogs and on the boards gives group admins a look into your online personality.

Some of the private groups are also private because of content. There have been a rash of problems with pictures and content from private groups posted elsewhere on the internet. Who's to say you aren't the type of guy to do it? Being something other than a lurker may give the admins the impression that you're not just here for a wank.

Is this about Celeb Worship?

A closed letter to the particular owner of the group your whining about might work better, but this was funnier.

I think administrator has only your partecipation in the community to understand who you are. And since you could pretend to be anyone on this community and the be the opposite kind of person, they cannot judge you from anything more than your partecipation in the community, but I think none of them has the time and the will to read all your comments (that’s why some private groups has a vouch thread, so people can share their knowledge about the applicant).
It’s just any other rule who apply to a very large community: for example, the minimum age to vote or the max alcohol you can have in your body when you drive. This has a common number in every country, and it doesn’t mean this number applies to everyone.
Since everyone is different, administrator needs a measure to consider people.

Wow, It's like deadsweetheart died and was brought back as a college student.

This is because Count is awesome.

I always like it when I come into a thread and someone else has explained what I wanted to explain. Time saver!

Edited to add: NNHS HUSKY FOOTBALL RULES!!!1!

Go you Huskies.

Would you want to have a private conversation or discussion on a possibly sensitive topic with a thousand totally silent strangers watching and listening? Probably not. That's why groups are private.

There is something to be said about the quality of the comments verses the quantity. A few hundred comments and or blog postings that demonstrate who you are and what you care about should count more than a few thousand "show the cookie".

However having only 42 comments in five years is a bit lacking.

So... did you get denied from Sexaholics or Oral Sex group?

So THAT'S why I wasn't accepted to Pregnant Lesbian Suicidegirls Only Group? Fucking elitists!

I dont think these requirements are going to change as they serve the purpose quite well. I offer you two suggestions. You could either talk to the person who owes the group you are interested in joining or just join some other public groups which might cover the interests you have and through participating in them you would qualify yourself to join the private ones.

Anyone know where I can get a good milkshake?

where is this set with 3000 comments that you speak of?