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Swiftsure

Swiftsure

Netherlands Antilles
April 2006

MAY 03, 2006 05:30 AM


NEW YORK (AP) -- MSNBC fired Phil Donahue on Tuesday, abruptly ending the veteran talk show host's return to television after six months of poor ratings.

Donahue's final show will be Friday night. The news show that precedes him on the air, "Countdown: Iraq," temporarily will be expanded to two hours to replace him.

"We're proud of the program and we're disappointed that the show was not able to attract the viewership we had hoped for and expected," said Erik Sorenson, MSNBC president. "We thank Phil and his staff for their dedication, commitment and passion."

Donahue's office referred calls to his agent on Thursday, and he did not immediately return a call for comment.

The move was not a surprise. MSNBC hoped "Donahue" would provide a liberal counterweight to Fox News Channel's competing "The O'Reilly Factor," but the ratings started poorly and didn't improve.

MSNBC tried to tweak the show in November, putting Donahue in front of a live audience in New York instead of in a New Jersey studio, but it made little difference.

The political talk show format has yet to prove -- and may never -- that it can support a liberal voice, said Andrew Tyndall, head of ADT Research, a television news consulting firm

Donahue's chances weren't helped by MSNBC's impatience, he said.

"They're very quick to cancel shows," Tyndall said. "Right from the start, they haven't settled on a format and let it grow so people can find it. If it's not working in a few months, they cancel it and move on to something else."

MSNBC also has sought a younger audience than its cable news rivals and the hiring of Donahue, 67, went against that strategy. "Anyone who's under 25 doesn't remember when his old talk show was on the air," Tyndall said.

During this month, a "sweeps" month in which ratings are watched closely to set advertising rates, "Donahue" averaged 446,000 viewers. O'Reilly drew 2.7 million viewers, up 28 percent from February 2002, according to Nielsen Media Research.

Connie Chung's CNN show that debuted shortly before "Donahue" averaged 985,000 viewers this month, Nielsen said.

"Countdown: Iraq," with Lester Holt as host, is one of the network's few success stories, occasionally inching past CNN to second in the cable news ratings.

Donahue was a nine-time Daytime Emmy winner for his syndicated talk show, which began in 1967 and aired nationally from 1970 to 1996, paving the way for dozens of such shows to follow.

He began his MSNBC show July 15 with a panel discussion on whether the United States should try to oust Saddam Hussein. On Monday night, with Rosie O'Donnell as guest, they talked about the same topic.

The show's failure is "a footnote" to Donahue's career, Tyndall said. "His legacy is unharmed," he said. "He invented an entire genre of television."




Yup. Proof if proof be needed to the saying that Murdoch found a nitche in the market with FOXNews......2/3rds of the American Public. T'would seem that in the "free market of ideas" the going rate for Liberal ideology is going for a round a hay-penny a dozen...

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!



ARRR!!! ARRR!!! ARRR!!! ARRR!!! ARRR!!! ARRR!!! ARRR!!! ARRR!!! ARRR!!! ARRR!!! ARRR!!! ARRR!!!

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

MAY 03, 2006 06:27 AM

What a Fuckwad.

May I suggest that you come to America, read some history or something, so that you may at least seem to know what you are talking about.

Phil Donahue is a fucking dinosaur. His show's demise has to do with the fact that his audience has left him. It has nothing to do with "liberal" fucking media.

Jesus. Get a clue, then come back.

Someguysteve

Someguysteve

USA
September 2005

MAY 03, 2006 07:27 AM

It's about damn time too, the news in America is really too liberal. I remember when all of the news stations were like "Why shouldn't invade Iraq, there isn't any evidence of WMDs." whatever

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

I'm lost
November 2003

MAY 03, 2006 07:38 AM

Hey Mr. Current Events, you realize that Phil Donahue was fired by MSNBC over 3 years ago, right?

[Edited on May 03, 2006 by smithers_jones]

adjunct

adjunct

Philadelphia, PA
July 2002

MAY 03, 2006 07:43 AM

I remember reading that NBC also chose to cut him because he was anti-war, and they wanted to put a pro-war spin in their content. FAIR has some of the memo outlining that angle online. Maybe there's less of a market for left wing spin and talk radio, but that's hardly the domain of serious journalism.

[Edited on May 03, 2006 by adjunct]

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

MAY 03, 2006 07:48 AM

smithers_jones said:
Hey Mr. Current Events, you realize that Phil Donahue was fired by MSNBC over 3 years ago, right?

[Edited on May 03, 2006 by smithers_jones]



BWAHAHAHAHAHA

that's fucking priceless.

Ghost_dance

Ghost_dance

Cincinnati, OH
March 2004

MAY 03, 2006 08:06 AM

horatios_dreams said:

smithers_jones said:
Hey Mr. Current Events, you realize that Phil Donahue was fired by MSNBC over 3 years ago, right?

[Edited on May 03, 2006 by smithers_jones]



BWAHAHAHAHAHA

that's fucking priceless.



indeed.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAY 03, 2006 08:09 AM

We're celebrating the third anniversary of the Donahue firing?

Once again you prove how not-bright you really are. Too funny.

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

MAY 03, 2006 08:17 AM

All I am seeing is that liberals are less inclined to waste time watching talking heads tell them what to think. Why would I want to watch a liberal engage in the same stupidity that makes me not watch Fox News?

Also:

smithers_jones said:
Hey Mr. Current Events, you realize that Phil Donahue was fired by MSNBC over 3 years ago, right?

[Edited on May 03, 2006 by smithers_jones]


Pwned x 389076.

mightytoaster

mightytoaster

Chicago, IL
August 2004

MAY 03, 2006 10:10 AM

And let's not forget that there is a grand movement to get Donahue back on the air being led by the prominent liberal

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Bill O'Reilly!!!! Or does this make Donahue a conservative?



adjunct

adjunct

Philadelphia, PA
July 2002

MAY 03, 2006 10:49 AM

mightytoaster said:
And let's not forget that there is a grand movement to get Donahue back on the air being led by the prominent liberal

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Bill O'Reilly!!!! Or does this make Donahue a conservative?




Isn't Olbermann the 8 pm slot? I doubt O'Reilly cares about getting back Donahue as much as he cares about getting Olbermann off his back.

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

MAY 03, 2006 10:59 AM

adjunct said:

mightytoaster said:
And let's not forget that there is a grand movement to get Donahue back on the air being led by the prominent liberal

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Bill O'Reilly!!!! Or does this make Donahue a conservative?




Isn't Olbermann the 8 pm slot? I doubt O'Reilly cares about getting back Donahue as much as he cares about getting Olbermann off his back.


I don't suppose you clicked on the link.

adjunct

adjunct

Philadelphia, PA
July 2002

MAY 03, 2006 11:06 AM

Westley said:

adjunct said:

mightytoaster said:
And let's not forget that there is a grand movement to get Donahue back on the air being led by the prominent liberal

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Bill O'Reilly!!!! Or does this make Donahue a conservative?




Isn't Olbermann the 8 pm slot? I doubt O'Reilly cares about getting back Donahue as much as he cares about getting Olbermann off his back.


I don't suppose you clicked on the link.


I did. Olbermann currently occupies the slot that Donahue used to have. O'Reilly desperately wants Olbermann to stop browbeating him and go away, and a drummed-up campaign against the "injustice" done to Donahue is the perfect way to do it.

Am I missing something here?

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

MAY 03, 2006 11:31 AM

adjunct said:
Am I missing something here?


Not at all. That would be me for not using a question mark.

This is the part where I create a diversion.

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

MAY 03, 2006 11:34 AM

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

MAY 03, 2006 11:35 AM

Westley said:

adjunct said:
Am I missing something here?


Not at all. That would be me for not using a question mark.

This is the part where I create a diversion.


The proper way to create a diversion in CE threads is to take non-sequiter pot-shots at Cindy Sheehan, John Kerry or Hillary Clinton and then acuse everyone who disagrees with you of being a terrorist sympathizer/anti-semite.

Geez, get a clue n00b.

whatever

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

MAY 03, 2006 11:45 AM

Subrosa said:

Westley said:

adjunct said:
Am I missing something here?


Not at all. That would be me for not using a question mark.

This is the part where I create a diversion.


The proper way to create a diversion in CE threads is to take non-sequiter pot-shots at Cindy Sheehan, John Kerry or Hillary Clinton and then acuse everyone who disagrees with you of being a terrorist sympathizer/anti-semite.

Geez, get a clue n00b.

whatever


Perhaps if another 20-30 posts are made explaining to me how to properly create a diversion I might get the hang of it.

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

MAY 03, 2006 11:49 AM

Westley said:

Subrosa said:

Westley said:

adjunct said:
Am I missing something here?


Not at all. That would be me for not using a question mark.

This is the part where I create a diversion.


The proper way to create a diversion in CE threads is to take non-sequiter pot-shots at Cindy Sheehan, John Kerry or Hillary Clinton and then acuse everyone who disagrees with you of being a terrorist sympathizer/anti-semite.

Geez, get a clue n00b.

whatever


Perhaps if another 20-30 posts are made explaining to me how to properly create a diversion I might get the hang of it.


See, the best diversions are of course completely unrelated, but they should also be related to an SG inside joke, and preferably sort of gay. And by gay I don't mean "stupid", I mean homosexual.


Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

MAY 03, 2006 12:00 PM

Keith said:

Westley said:



See, the best diversions are of course completely unrelated, but they should also be related to an SG inside joke, and preferably sort of gay. And by gay I don't mean "stupid", I mean homosexual.



I don't really have anything to say, I just wanted to get Der Hoffinator closer to the dildo. Yeah, redundant.




[Edited on May 03, 2006 by Westley]

adjunct

adjunct

Philadelphia, PA
July 2002

MAY 03, 2006 12:31 PM

You guys are working on some next level sarcasm that I can't even begin to understand.

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

MAY 03, 2006 12:49 PM

adjunct said:
You guys are working on some next level sarcasm that I can't even begin to understand.


This thread deserves it.

But, really, you did not miss anything. I just meant to say that I was intending to ask if you had gone to the link(which affirmed what you said), rather than infer that you had not.

Eiron

Eiron

Buffalo, NY
May 2006

MAY 03, 2006 12:55 PM

I'd always thought that Dr. Doom's prodigious member was chrome-plated, too.

All my childhood dreams have been dashed.

Adroitbeing

Adroitbeing

I'm lost
September 2003

MAY 03, 2006 01:02 PM

I'm lost - why did Swiftsurepost an article from February 2003? Was this his effort to finally convince us how far behind the times he is?

Every media bistro report I've read shows O'Reilly's audience share in decline (nearly 8% year over year).

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

MAY 03, 2006 01:05 PM

Adroitbeing said:
I'm lost - why did Swiftsurepost an article from February 2003? Was this his effort to finally convince us how far behind the times he is?

Every media bistro report I've read shows O'Reilly's audience share in decline (nearly 8% year over year).


Using Swiftsure's logic, that must mean that the conservative movement is in decline. Hooray!

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

MAY 03, 2006 02:33 PM

To answer a question above: Olbermann's show is not only still on at 8, its ratings have greatly increased since he started taking on Bill O'Reilly.

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