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ThedaFitzgerald

ThedaFitzgerald

Orange, CA
April 2006

APR 25, 2006 09:59 PM

80 percent of all marriages end in divorce.
53 percent of all "Christian" marriages end in divorce
50 percent of all marriages end in divorce within the first year
you are sixty percent more like to get a divorce if you live with your spouse previous to marriage.



Why do so many marriages fail?

witty_pseudonym

witty_pseudonym

Australia
April 2006

APR 25, 2006 10:02 PM

Because for some reason people keep insisting on having them

Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

APR 25, 2006 10:02 PM

I'm not in them?

Paul9000

Paul9000

Monterey, CA
November 2004

APR 25, 2006 10:03 PM

ThedaFitzgerald said:
80 percent of all marriages end in divorce.
53 percent of all "Christian" marriages end in divorce
50 percent of all marriages end in divorce within the first year
you are sixty percent more like to get a divorce if you live with your spouse previous to marriage.



Why do so many marriages fail?


What's your source? Because it is wrong.

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

APR 25, 2006 10:06 PM

ThedaFitzgerald said:
80 percent of all marriages end in divorce.
53 percent of all "Christian" marriages end in divorce
50 percent of all marriages end in divorce within the first year
you are sixty percent more like to get a divorce if you live with your spouse previous to marriage.



Why do so many marriages fail?


One more:
100% of these statistics are false.

Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

APR 25, 2006 10:08 PM

Westley said:

ThedaFitzgerald said:
80 percent of all marriages end in divorce.
53 percent of all "Christian" marriages end in divorce
50 percent of all marriages end in divorce within the first year
you are sixty percent more like to get a divorce if you live with your spouse previous to marriage.



Why do so many marriages fail?


One more:
100% of these statistics are false.


Don't be glib. You dont know the history of divorces. ThedaFitzgerald does.

cato

cato

I'm lost
November 2005

APR 25, 2006 10:09 PM

David Friedman had an interesting theory on why cohabitation prior to marriage increases the likelihood of divorce. It sounds plausible to me.

link

cato

cato

I'm lost
November 2005

APR 25, 2006 10:10 PM

btw, an even more frightening statistic:

of marriages that don't end in divorce, 100% end in death.

ThedaFitzgerald

ThedaFitzgerald

Orange, CA
April 2006

APR 25, 2006 10:19 PM

cato said:
btw, an even more frightening statistic:

of marriages that don't end in divorce, 100% end in death.




80 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. ;-)

(mine arn't!)


statistics


I searched and searched, my internet service blows. I could only find older ones My proffessor gave me the more "recent statitsics"

What they do show is that divorce rates are spiking, and I am asking you fine people what you think the reason is.

Paul9000

Paul9000

Monterey, CA
November 2004

APR 25, 2006 10:29 PM

ThedaFitzgerald said:

cato said:
btw, an even more frightening statistic:
of marriages that don't end in divorce, 100% end in death.


80 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. ;-)
(mine arn't!)
statistics
I searched and searched, my internet service blows. I could only find older ones My proffessor gave me the more "recent statitsics"
What they do show is that divorce rates are spiking, and I am asking you fine people what you think the reason is.


What is your evidence that divorce rate are spiking?

According to your own source they are about the same.


3. PROJECTION/PREDICTION. This is the Census Bureau's often-cited "50%" rate, the proportion of marriages taking place right now that will eventually divorce, which has since been revised downward to roughly 43% by the National Center for Health Statistics but was moved back up to around 50% by the Census Bureau in 2002, with even more ifs ands and buts than usual. Most recently, according to the New York Times, it has been revised downward to just over 40%.

ThedaFitzgerald

ThedaFitzgerald

Orange, CA
April 2006

APR 25, 2006 10:32 PM

Paul9000 said:

ThedaFitzgerald said:

cato said:
btw, an even more frightening statistic:
of marriages that don't end in divorce, 100% end in death.


80 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. ;-)
(mine arn't!)
statistics
I searched and searched, my internet service blows. I could only find older ones My proffessor gave me the more "recent statitsics"
What they do show is that divorce rates are spiking, and I am asking you fine people what you think the reason is.


What is your evidence that divorce rate are spiking?

According to your own source they are about the same.


3. PROJECTION/PREDICTION. This is the Census Bureau's often-cited "50%" rate, the proportion of marriages taking place right now that will eventually divorce, which has since been revised downward to roughly 43% by the National Center for Health Statistics but was moved back up to around 50% by the Census Bureau in 2002, with even more ifs ands and buts than usual. Most recently, according to the New York Times, it has been revised downward to just over 40%.




Which is obviously a lot more than ten, 15, 20 years ago right???? So have they gone to since then?

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

APR 25, 2006 10:33 PM

ThedaFitzgerald said:

80 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. ;-)

(mine arn't!)


statistics


I searched and searched, my internet service blows. I could only find older ones My proffessor gave me the more "recent statitsics"

What they do show is that divorce rates are spiking, and I am asking you fine people what you think the reason is.


Apparently you can not even be bothered to read the pages you cite, but none of the statistics you presented are backed up by this page.

For instance, the absurd statistic that "50 percent of all marriages end in divorce within the first year" is a fabrication of a fabricated statistic.

Paul9000

Paul9000

Monterey, CA
November 2004

APR 25, 2006 10:33 PM

ThedaFitzgerald said:
Which is obviously a lot more than ten, 15, 20 years ago right???? So have they gone to since then?


No, it is not more than 10, 15, 20 years ago.

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

APR 25, 2006 10:34 PM

ThedaFitzgerald said:

Paul9000 said:

ThedaFitzgerald said:

cato said:
btw, an even more frightening statistic:
of marriages that don't end in divorce, 100% end in death.


80 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. ;-)
(mine arn't!)
statistics
I searched and searched, my internet service blows. I could only find older ones My proffessor gave me the more "recent statitsics"
What they do show is that divorce rates are spiking, and I am asking you fine people what you think the reason is.


What is your evidence that divorce rate are spiking?

According to your own source they are about the same.


3. PROJECTION/PREDICTION. This is the Census Bureau's often-cited "50%" rate, the proportion of marriages taking place right now that will eventually divorce, which has since been revised downward to roughly 43% by the National Center for Health Statistics but was moved back up to around 50% by the Census Bureau in 2002, with even more ifs ands and buts than usual. Most recently, according to the New York Times, it has been revised downward to just over 40%.




Which is obviously a lot more than ten, 15, 20 years ago right???? So have they gone to since then?


Actually, no. Divorce rates peaked in the early 80;s, and have steadily declined since.

ThedaFitzgerald

ThedaFitzgerald

Orange, CA
April 2006

APR 25, 2006 10:50 PM

QUOTE]
Actually, no. Divorce rates peaked in the early 80;s, and have steadily declined since.


Source?

Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

APR 25, 2006 11:37 PM

I don't like the new moderator.

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

APR 25, 2006 11:51 PM

80 percent of all marriages end in divorce.
53 percent of all "Christian" marriages end in divorce


I don't see how that's possible considering the fact that Christians are the majority.

It's only possible if a) Christians don't get married very often or b) non-Christians divorce, then remarry, then divorce again and again until their divorces vastly outnumber the amount of Christian divorces.

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

APR 25, 2006 11:54 PM

ThedaFitzgerald said:
Source?


stuff

"50 percent of all marriages end in divorce within the first year" is a complete fallacy, based on a foolish reading of the occasional 2:1 ratio of marriages to divorces in several years since 1979. This lead to the statement that 50% of all marriages end in divorce(not 50% in the first year). However, this is a rather silly appraisal, given that the greater number of divorces in these years is comprised of marriages from previous years in which the marriage rate was also higher. But it makes a nice headline for people who don't care to reason out the variables.



[Edited on Apr 26, 2006 by Westley]

joker_

joker_

Minneapolis, MN
October 2005

APR 26, 2006 12:00 AM

Well, the stats are irrelevant. Many marriages end, big whoop.
Hmmm, I wonder if marriages would last longer if every one was polyamorous?

witty_pseudonym

witty_pseudonym

Australia
April 2006

APR 26, 2006 12:09 AM

Well, by definition there wouldn't be more marriage. If everyone was promiscous though (edit- and it was the social norm to be), I'm convinced the divorce rate would take a significant hit

[Edited on Apr 26, 2006 by witty_pseudonym]

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

APR 26, 2006 12:22 AM

The_Bastard said:

Westley said:

ThedaFitzgerald said:
80 percent of all marriages end in divorce.
53 percent of all "Christian" marriages end in divorce
50 percent of all marriages end in divorce within the first year
you are sixty percent more like to get a divorce if you live with your spouse previous to marriage.



Why do so many marriages fail?


One more:
100% of these statistics are false.


Don't be glib. You dont know the history of divorces. ThedaFitzgerald does.



Because her pseudo-intellectual missives have borne up to scrutiny ever so well in the past.
whatever

joker_

joker_

Minneapolis, MN
October 2005

APR 26, 2006 12:32 AM

witty_pseudonym said:
Well, by definition there wouldn't be more marriage. If everyone was promiscous though (edit- and it was the social norm to be), I'm convinced the divorce rate would take a significant hit

[Edited on Apr 26, 2006 by witty_pseudonym]


Well, I don't know. Economics is a factor also.

However, it is practically impossible to divorce a woman that attempts to get you hooked up with other hot women.

witty_pseudonym

witty_pseudonym

Australia
April 2006

APR 26, 2006 12:35 AM

joker_c86 said:

witty_pseudonym said:
Well, by definition there wouldn't be more marriage. If everyone was promiscous though (edit- and it was the social norm to be), I'm convinced the divorce rate would take a significant hit

[Edited on Apr 26, 2006 by witty_pseudonym]



However, it is practically impossible to divorce a woman that attempts to get you hooked up with other hot women.



Exactly my point, that and more than a fair share of breakups happen due to infidelity



[Edited on Apr 26, 2006 by witty_pseudonym]

Adroitbeing

Adroitbeing

I'm lost
September 2003

APR 26, 2006 12:38 AM

Lots of data HERE that may not support the assertions made in this thread.

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

APR 26, 2006 12:44 AM

Adroitbeing said:
Lots of data HERE that may not support the assertions made in this thread.


Yeah, that's the same link the OP used to "support" her claims. Go figure.

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