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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

APR 25, 2006 01:40 PM

A report prepared by a group of 125 non-governmental organizations in Iraq has discovered some shocking numbers. 20,000 Iraqis, who don’t seem to understand they are better off not living under Saddam Hussein, have been kidnapped.

The survey, which underscores the massive social upheaval caused by rebel activity and increasing sectarian conflict, does not give the number of people killed. However, it says that 15,462 people have been wounded.

The 19,548 people kidnapped includes 4,959 women and 2,350 children...The thousands of Iraqis being kidnapped are primarily the victims of political rivalry and of common criminal gangs seeking ransom.

The report states 80 percent of the current violence is politically motivated. Civil war, anyone?

The violence is generated by armed militias linked to political parties and is fed by the [Iraq’s] porous borders and by the delay in forming a new government.

The survey does not record the number of people killed but on-line website Iraqbodycount.org has estimated that between 34,511 and 38,660 civilians have lost their lives since the invasion. That count is taken from media reports. No word on whether the dead think they are “better off.”

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

APR 25, 2006 02:26 PM

FearTheReaper said:
A report prepared by a group of 125 non-governmental organizations in Iraq has discovered some shocking numbers. 20,000 Iraqis, who don’t seem to understand they are better off not living under Saddam Hussein,



but it doesn't cross your mind to...you know...blame the fucking kidnappers!!!!

nah

course not

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

APR 25, 2006 02:31 PM

The survey does not record the number of people killed but on-line website Iraqbodycount.org has estimated that between 34,511 and 38,660 civilians have lost their lives since the invasion. That count is taken from media reports. No word on whether the dead think they are “better off.”



why not go the whole hog and cite the Lancet "pick a number between 1 and 200,000" survey

again - most of these deaths were caused by terrorists, the death rate is shrinking as Zarqawi's boys are being crushed, more and more Iraqi troops are completing their training and the country is lurching closer to recovery every day...much as that makes the left completely distraught



[Edited on Apr 25, 2006 by UpTight]

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

I'm lost
November 2003

APR 25, 2006 02:39 PM

UpTight said:

The survey does not record the number of people killed but on-line website Iraqbodycount.org has estimated that between 34,511 and 38,660 civilians have lost their lives since the invasion. That count is taken from media reports. No word on whether the dead think they are “better off.”



why not go the whole hog and cite the Lancet "pick a number between 1 and 200,000" survey

again - most of these deaths were caused by terrorists, the death rate is shrinking as Zarqawi's boys are being crushed, more and more Iraqi troops are completing their training and the country is lurching closer to recovery every day...much as that makes the left completely distraught



[Edited on Apr 25, 2006 by UpTight]



Yup. Things have really turned a corner there. We can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Victory is almost at hand. Another half-dozen secret prisons and a couple more divisions of Iraqi death squads and the Middle East will be well on its way to democracy.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

APR 25, 2006 02:39 PM

UpTight said:

FearTheReaper said:
A report prepared by a group of 125 non-governmental organizations in Iraq has discovered some shocking numbers. 20,000 Iraqis, who don’t seem to understand they are better off not living under Saddam Hussein,



but it doesn't cross your mind to...you know...blame the fucking kidnappers!!!!

nah

course not



I take it all back.

[Edited on Apr 25, 2006 2:40PM]

FrankMask

FrankMask

Saint Paul, MN
June 2003

APR 25, 2006 02:41 PM

UpTight said:

FearTheReaper said:
A report prepared by a group of 125 non-governmental organizations in Iraq has discovered some shocking numbers. 20,000 Iraqis, who don’t seem to understand they are better off not living under Saddam Hussein,



but it doesn't cross your mind to...you know...blame the fucking kidnappers!!!!

nah

course not



I'm all for personal responsibility, but sometimes when things go really, really bad there is more than one finger behind the trigger.

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

APR 25, 2006 02:47 PM

Anyway, I'm bored of Iraq. Bring on the sequel.

zoton

zoton

Kuwait
November 2005

APR 25, 2006 03:24 PM

UpTight said:
Anyway, I'm bored of Iraq. Bring on the sequel.



suggestion/ betting pool

I got iran for 10 bucks !

anybody going for syria ?

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

APR 25, 2006 03:29 PM

zoton said:

UpTight said:
Anyway, I'm bored of Iraq. Bring on the sequel.



suggestion/ betting pool

I got iran for 10 bucks !

anybody going for syria ?



Venzuela.

xrinti

xrinti

Madison, WI
April 2006

APR 25, 2006 03:30 PM

Don't you understand? If we pay attention to what we're doing in Iraq, THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON!

[/sarcasm]

hadees

hadees

Austin, TX
December 2003

APR 25, 2006 04:49 PM

UpTight said:

FearTheReaper said:
A report prepared by a group of 125 non-governmental organizations in Iraq has discovered some shocking numbers. 20,000 Iraqis, who don’t seem to understand they are better off not living under Saddam Hussein,



but it doesn't cross your mind to...you know...blame the fucking kidnappers!!!!

nah

course not



the US is partly responsible for how things are going but not totally responsible.

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

APR 25, 2006 04:52 PM

FearTheReaper said:

zoton said:

UpTight said:
Anyway, I'm bored of Iraq. Bring on the sequel.



suggestion/ betting pool

I got iran for 10 bucks !

anybody going for syria ?



Venzuela.



please....

ok Chavez isn't a tangible threat to the world like Ahmadinejad is, but just anything to wipe the smug "Garry Shandling" smile off that fat cunt's face would be worth it.


MetaTag

MetaTag

United Kingdom
September 2002

APR 25, 2006 04:58 PM

UpTight said:
Anyway, I'm bored of Iraq. Bring on the sequel.



How would you feel if we said that we are bored of hearing about people in Israel being killed by suicide bombs. I think you would have a different opinion in that case.

What a luxury it is, to be bored of the the killing and chaos in Iraq. Imagine if you lived there?

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

APR 25, 2006 04:59 PM

MetaTag said:

UpTight said:
Anyway, I'm bored of Iraq. Bring on the sequel.



How would you feel if we said that we are bored of hearing about people in Israel being killed by suicide bombs. I think you would have a different opinion in that case.

What a luxury it is, to be bored of the the killing and chaos in Iraq. Imagine if you lived there?



He's not bored. He loves it. Gives him a chance to troll.

MetaTag, I hate to tell you, but you fell for the bait, here...

Someguysteve

Someguysteve

USA
September 2005

APR 25, 2006 05:01 PM

UpTight said:
Anyway, I'm bored of Iraq. Bring on the sequel.



A sequel of a remake?

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

APR 25, 2006 05:02 PM

UpTight said:

FearTheReaper said:

zoton said:

UpTight said:
Anyway, I'm bored of Iraq. Bring on the sequel.



suggestion/ betting pool

I got iran for 10 bucks !

anybody going for syria ?



Venzuela.



please....

ok Chavez isn't a tangible threat to the world like Ahmadinejad is, but just anything to wipe the smug "Garry Shandling" smile off that fat cunt's face would be worth it.



There is just no limit on your chauvanistic, self rightous conviction that the West - the US - gets to control the world with its military, is there?

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

APR 25, 2006 05:19 PM

just the people the world needs protecting from...and Hugo Chavez

ideally, it wouldn't be down to Britain and America all the time, but the UN are as much use as tits on a fish

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

APR 25, 2006 05:21 PM

UpTight said:
just the people the world needs protecting from...and Hugo Chavez

ideally, it wouldn't be down to Britain and America all the time, but the UN are as much use as tits on a fish



What about the people who think that it is the US and Britain the people in the world need protecting from?

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

APR 25, 2006 05:28 PM

MetaTag said:

UpTight said:
Anyway, I'm bored of Iraq. Bring on the sequel.



How would you feel if we said that we are bored of hearing about people in Israel being killed by suicide bombs. I think you would have a different opinion in that case.



well evidently someone is - cos we hardly hear a thing about suicide bombers in Israel

What a luxury it is, to be bored of the the killing and chaos in Iraq. Imagine if you lived there?



If I lived there, I'd blame the people killing Iraqis - namely Jordanain and Syrian terrorists

Viva

Viva

Las Vegas, NV
August 2004

APR 25, 2006 05:39 PM

UpTight said:
just the people the world needs protecting from...and Hugo Chavez

ideally, it wouldn't be down to Britain and America all the time, but the UN are as much use as tits on a fish



This is what, as a guy who is getting older, I just can't understand about Neo-Cons. All the old conservatives I knew and respected were always very pragmatistic and would complain about liberals being too idealistic. The ideal the neo-cons have about righting the wrongs of the world seems so unrealistic and pipe dreamish. I agree it would be a good thing if we could make all the bad people go away but I dont see any real chance of this happening. Also from a conservative perspective the expense of trying is sure to put us at such a competetive disadvantage economicaly with those we think are so awful.

Sometimes I wonder if Neo Cons just think we cant compete so we need to just use military force.

MetaTag

MetaTag

United Kingdom
September 2002

APR 25, 2006 05:52 PM

Shalome said:

MetaTag, I hate to tell you, but you fell for the bait, here...



I have read his answer and you are right wink

Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

APR 25, 2006 06:01 PM

FearTheReaper said:
Civil war, anyone?


Fingers crossed!

Xanippi

Xanippi

HOPEFUL

Richmond, VA

APR 25, 2006 06:12 PM

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

sorry to tweak out like this. I know it’s not contributing anything to the discussion but it helps me process bad news.

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BurningKrome

BurningKrome

San Jose, CA
April 2005

APR 25, 2006 07:26 PM

FearTheReaper said:

zoton said:

UpTight said:
Anyway, I'm bored of Iraq. Bring on the sequel.



suggestion/ betting pool

I got iran for 10 bucks !

anybody going for syria ?



Venzuela.


Albuquerque

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

APR 25, 2006 08:02 PM

UpTight said:


again - most of these deaths were caused by terrorists, the death rate is shrinking as Zarqawi's boys are being crushed,
[Edited on Apr 25, 2006 by UpTight]




Fuck it, I'm not responding to your garbage anymore. When you're proven wrong you just ignore it anyway.

[Edited on Apr 25, 2006 by BillHaverchuck]

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