condoleeza speaks out

It worked against Clinton.

how?

I think she was wearing these!

You mean like the ones you'd find if you did an actual search intended to find something, instead of a disengenuous one designed NOT to find something?

Interesting. Rapid fire response to the others...

You thought wrong. And actually, to be more accurate the "getting his dick sucked" thing was just the vehicle they used - the real reason that Clinton was impeached was because he committed the hign crime of governing while not a Republican. Nevermind that he was a far more effective president than any Repug who has held the office since Teddy Roosevelt.

On the ropes? Given your complete absence of even a rudimentary understanding of what you're talking about, how did you reach that conclusion?

I linked to two articles, one of which you snipped, both of which contained statements from Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic party. I'm not sure how much more official you can get than that. And since it isn't necessary to call for the president's impeachment to acknowledge that there was something fundamentally wrong with the way he assumed office, your "point" in that regard is moot.

Yeah, the Republicans are really good at making empty accusations and telling lies in order to create the illusion of a dichotomy of wrongdoing. And since they essentially control the corporate media in this country, their bullshit isn't given the effective debunking it merits.

You really are naive, aren't you? The Dems could have pictures of Bush personally shredding ballots, and it wouldn't change the fact that the Repugs control both houses of Congress and wouldn't allow impeachment to go forward.

You don't have to buy it. Hell, you can belive that the earth is flat, if you want to. In fact, given that you're a Bushbot, you probably already do.

John Kerry had plenty of proof that he earned the medals he got during the Vietnam War, and he didn't come forward with it because, like most of the Democratic leadership, he was too much of a political coward to do so. And he wouldn't have even had to deal with a hostile Republican Congress to do so. You don't have to be an American to have the minimal common sense required to figure out that people who make statements like "I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it" aren't going to stick their necks out for something as incendiary as the allegation that the Repugs were committing electoral fraud, support or otherwise.

Patriotism has nothing to do with refraining from criticizing your political leadership. Being critical of a bad president, like the one we have right now, is one of the most patriotic things a person can do short of putting their life on the line. Of course, you have to have the balls to do it, and if you don't it ain't gonna happen. The sinmple truth is that the Dems don't hav the balls to stick up for themselves, and the Repugs do. The Repugs will tell any lie, no matter how obviously false, to cover for themselves, and attack any critic, no matter how low they have to sink, who challenges them on anything. That's why they are blaming dead poor people for not magically teleporting themselves out of New Orleans, and blaming state and local officials for not doing in one day what the Feds haven't been able to pull off in nearly a week, and blaming anyone and everyone they can think of, no matter how absurd and implausible, to defend their complete and absolute failure to get the job done in dealing with Hurricane Katrina.

[Edited on Sep 05, 2005 by Attack_Macaque]

Here are the text of articles of impeachment.

Again, Clinton was impeached because the Republicans couldn't handle the fact that he was president. It's why they launched the Whitewater probe, also known as the most expensive fishing expedition in American history. It's why, when they didn't find anything related to Whitewater that they could use against him, or any of the innumerable other bullshit charges they floated hoping something would stick, they redirected the Whitewater probe towards something that was completely foreign to its intended scope and purpose and began investigating his private sex life. It's why they got their political kneecapper Kenneth Starr to generate the pornographic Starr Report in order to try and embarass Clinton. It's why they latched desperately onto the fact that Clinton lied in response to non-material questions asked during a purely politically motivated lawsuit that should never been allowed to go forward, and from that tried to extrapolate some sort of Watergate-style megascandal, hoping that after they pulled off the impeachment articles, which they had the votes for in the House, they would damage the Dems enough to gain the seats they needed to remove Clinton from office in the Senate after the midterm elections. Of course, their plan wildly backfired, because Clinton actually became more popular as a result of the politically motivated attempt at removal. So a few years later, they did the next best thing, and got George Bush's brother, the governor of Florida, and his state campaign manager, who oversaw Florida's elections, to steal the states electoral votes for him in the 2000 election cycle.

One more time, just so we're clear. Clinton was impeached because the Republicans couldn't handle the fact that he was president. Nothing more, nothing less.

He got off lucky - Kennedy was shot.

True, that. Of course, he was smart enough not to ride through downtown Dallas in an open convertible...