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laine666

laine666

Portland, OR
June 2003

AUG 31, 2005 11:52 PM

I used to respect Hitchens. The Trials of Henry Kissenger was brilliant. But all this mess he's been talking about how great the war in iraq is and how successful its been have really been irking me. And now i think he's gone competely crazy

His latest article in the weekly standard

an excerpt from that article:
" I am one of those who believe, uncynically, that Osama bin Laden did us all a service (and holy war a great disservice) by his mad decision to assault the American homeland four years ago. Had he not made this world-historical mistake, we would have been able to add a Talibanized and nuclear-armed Pakistan to our list of the threats we failed to recognize in time. (This threat still exists, but it is no longer so casually overlooked.)"


edited for spelling




[Edited on Aug 31, 2005 by Electra]

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 31, 2005 11:55 PM

*bookmarks thread for the next time someone praises something idiotic Hitchens has said*

laine666

laine666

Portland, OR
June 2003

SEP 01, 2005 12:00 AM

yeah, this is pretty disgusting.

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

SEP 01, 2005 01:00 AM

He's got a point. What if they had the discipline to wait until they had nukes and smuggled them into the US? You'd have a situation not unlike what's happening in New Orleans today, only in New York City, and no way of knowing if he had any more. It's not like we were going to aggressively go after him beforehand. And the invasion of Iraq was in part to help ensure Bin Laden wouldn't be able to use Saddam Hussein as an avenue to acquire nukes of other WMDs in the future. The crazy thing would just to sit back and pray that wouldn't happen.

troglodyte

troglodyte

Victoria, BC
May 2003

SEP 01, 2005 01:05 AM

stockula said:
He's got a point. What if they had the discipline to wait until they had nukes and smuggled them into the US? You'd have a situation not unlike what's happening in New Orleans today, only in New York City, and no way of knowing if he had any more.


Any more hurricanes?

It's not like we were going to aggressively go after him beforehand.


No one seems to be going aggressively after him now.

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

SEP 01, 2005 11:07 AM

troglodyte said:

stockula said:
He's got a point. What if they had the discipline to wait until they had nukes and smuggled them into the US? You'd have a situation not unlike what's happening in New Orleans today, only in New York City, and no way of knowing if he had any more.


Any more hurricanes?

It's not like we were going to aggressively go after him beforehand.


No one seems to be going aggressively after him now.



shhhhh! you aren't supposed to remember that. whatever

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

SEP 01, 2005 11:15 AM

stockula said:
He's got a point. What if they had the discipline to wait until they had nukes and smuggled them into the US? You'd have a situation not unlike what's happening in New Orleans today, only in New York City, and no way of knowing if he had any more.



Osama was going to hurricane New YorK?


It's not like we were going to aggressively go after him beforehand. And the invasion of Iraq was in part to help ensure Bin Laden wouldn't be able to use Saddam Hussein as an avenue to acquire nukes of other WMDs in the future. The crazy thing would just to sit back and pray that wouldn't happen.



You still aren't going after him aggresively. Even when you were you couldn't get him. So you gave up and went after Saddam. By the way... I'm still waiting for the proof of WMDs and the connection between Saddam and Bin Laden.

googused

googused

Portland, OR
OLD SKOOL

SEP 01, 2005 11:19 AM

He was on the daily show recently and was pretty much babbling incoherently the whole time.

Kyomara

Kyomara

Brooklyn, NY
April 2004

SEP 01, 2005 11:50 AM

He makes a lot of really good (or at least interesting) points, especially when he states that, left alone, Iraq might have degenerated into further instability and been divided up by its neighbors anyway.

I have always felt that there is something to be said for the idea of Iraq as a "keystone of the Middle East," as he calls it. If the United States was to do something proactive to bring stability to the region, 2003 was the time to do something and Iraq was the place to do it.

But Hitchens expresses my own misgivings perfectly here:

However, having debated almost all of the spokespeople for the antiwar faction, both the sane and the deranged, I was recently asked a question that I was temporarily unable to answer. "If what you claim is true," the honest citizen at this meeting politely asked me, "how come the White House hasn't told us?"



And I think that the sad answer is: there is a good chance that the White House just doesn't understand all of this. Christopher Hitchens makes so many good points about the war because Christopher Hitchens is smarter than George Bush.

In the end though, it's a fact that we have long since passed the point of no return in Iraq. Until some semblance of stability has returned, there's no way we can pull out.

Kyomara

Kyomara

Brooklyn, NY
April 2004

SEP 01, 2005 11:58 AM

Oh, by the way:

...empty my quiver



sounds WAY hot. biggrin

hadees

hadees

Austin, TX
December 2003

SEP 01, 2005 12:04 PM

FreakPirate said:
Osama was going to hurricane New YorK?



Mabey Osama recruited the Flash villan, Weather Wizard.

laine666

laine666

Portland, OR
June 2003

SEP 01, 2005 01:34 PM

hadees said:

FreakPirate said:
Osama was going to hurricane New YorK?



Mabey Osama recruited the Flash villan, Weather Wizard.



exactly!