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Michael_J_Totten

Michael_J_Totten

Iraq
February 2004

AUG 31, 2005 09:48 PM

What is this, hell week? An apparently non-existant suicide-bomber managed to “kill” around a thousand people in Baghdad.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Deaths mounted steadily in northeast Baghdad after a massive midday Shiite religious procession erupted into a chaotic stampede Wednesday, causing the drowning and trampling deaths of 965 pilgrims.

Authorities believe a rumor raced through the crowd that a suicide bomber was in their midst, and that created panic among the waves of pedestrians trying to cross the Al-A'imma bridge over the Tigris River. The throngs of Shiite faithful had been stopped by security checks and bogged down by concrete barriers.

Three hours earlier, an insurgent mortar attack near the Kadhimiya mosque killed seven people and wounded 36 others.

Government officials are investigating that attack and the stampede itself -- which also led to the injuries of 465 people. The death count could rise as crews search for more victims.

They also want to explore the extent of any "technical defects" on the bridge.

"This will leave a scar in our souls and will be remembered with those who died in the result of terror acts," said President Jalal Talabani, echoing the sorrow across the nation over the tragedy, which prompted comparisons to stampedes at other religious events, such as those in Mecca during the annual pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia.

Luis

Luis

Preston, ID
February 2004

AUG 31, 2005 10:22 PM

I was wondering how long it would take for this to be posted. It must be awful living in that kind of fear.

googused

googused

Portland, OR
OLD SKOOL

AUG 31, 2005 10:31 PM

See! Religion IS dangerous!

TAFKASP

TAFKASP

Oakland, CA
June 2003

AUG 31, 2005 10:48 PM

Luis said:
It must be awful living in that kind of fear.



I have a feeling that same thing could easily have happened here in the U.S. or London for instance. I think the fear itself is a far greater weapon for terrorists than actual bombs.

ArgentumBlack

ArgentumBlack

Lincoln, NE
March 2004

AUG 31, 2005 10:49 PM

googuse said:
See! Religion IS dangerous!



*rimshot*

photoline

photoline

Edmonton, AB
January 2005

AUG 31, 2005 10:58 PM

Add that statistic to all of the unreported civilian casualties in Iraq since "Operation Shock and Awe".

Sophie_Sass

Sophie_Sass

Los Angeles, CA
October 2003

AUG 31, 2005 11:04 PM

In the story I read (on yahoo, I think) it said that most of the dead were women and children. Those men are scum. mad

Sophie_Sass

Sophie_Sass

Los Angeles, CA
October 2003

AUG 31, 2005 11:10 PM

PuppyRiot said:

Luis said:
It must be awful living in that kind of fear.



I have a feeling that same thing could easily have happened here in the U.S. or London for instance. I think the fear itself is a far greater weapon for terrorists than actual bombs.


I agree. Had there actually been a terrorist attack it's likely there would have only been a handful of people dead, probably no where near 1,000. Of course it probably would have also resulted in a stampede. whatever

whitepuma

whitepuma

Australia
March 2004

AUG 31, 2005 11:39 PM

It is this sort of fear that terrorist look to creat it is this that gives them power and only this if people pick up dust themselves of and say fuck you asshole jam it in your ass and continue as nothing happened preventing the fear from taking a crip then the terrorist lose control over the situation although i do admit it is a hard thing to do this.

step

step

Missoula, MT
July 2005

SEP 01, 2005 12:30 AM

Nothing good will come of this for American intersts in the Gulf. oink

Put your waders on..

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

SEP 01, 2005 01:06 AM

photoline said:
Add that statistic to all of the unreported civilian casualties in Iraq since "Operation Shock and Awe".



You're not interested in all the Iraqi civilians killed in Iraq BEFORE the American invasion, are you? No, didn't think so.

Cineman

Cineman

Los Angeles, CA
November 2003

SEP 01, 2005 03:08 AM

This is exactly why I loathe crowds. I don't fear them, I just can't stand them. When groupthink falls to the lowest common denominator in a mob mentality situation, bad times are sure to result.

This is depressing news no matter how you cut it.

RustyShackelford

RustyShackelford

I'm lost
April 2005

SEP 01, 2005 08:39 AM

stockula said:

photoline said:
Add that statistic to all of the unreported civilian casualties in Iraq since "Operation Shock and Awe".



You're not interested in all the Iraqi civilians killed in Iraq BEFORE the American invasion, are you? No, didn't think so.



Nope. Anything that makes the U.S. look bad is good. Who cares about people being oppressed and murdered or not having any rights. If it's Bush that is going to free them then I prefer that they stay in chains because Bush and Republicans are evil.

Did I mention that Dick Cheney caused hurricane Katrina?

(I'm pretending to be a "liberal" today.)





[Edited on Sep 01, 2005 by RustyShackelford]

robosagogo

robosagogo

State College, PA
September 2004

SEP 01, 2005 08:44 AM

stockula said:

photoline said:
Add that statistic to all of the unreported civilian casualties in Iraq since "Operation Shock and Awe".



You're not interested in all the Iraqi civilians killed in Iraq BEFORE the American invasion, are you? No, didn't think so.



Have less people been killed since we invaded than would've been killed if we hadn't?

[Edited on Sep 01, 2005 by robosagogo]

RustyShackelford

RustyShackelford

I'm lost
April 2005

SEP 01, 2005 10:48 AM

robosagogo said:

stockula said:

photoline said:
Add that statistic to all of the unreported civilian casualties in Iraq since "Operation Shock and Awe".



You're not interested in all the Iraqi civilians killed in Iraq BEFORE the American invasion, are you? No, didn't think so.



Have less people been killed since we invaded than would've been killed if we hadn't?

[Edited on Sep 01, 2005 by robosagogo]



Yes.

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

SEP 01, 2005 10:50 AM

RustyShackelford said:

robosagogo said:

stockula said:

photoline said:
Add that statistic to all of the unreported civilian casualties in Iraq since "Operation Shock and Awe".



You're not interested in all the Iraqi civilians killed in Iraq BEFORE the American invasion, are you? No, didn't think so.



Have less people been killed since we invaded than would've been killed if we hadn't?

[Edited on Sep 01, 2005 by robosagogo]



Yes.



link, fact?

anything, in fact, to support your position?

i doubt there could be, since there isn't a really accurate account of how many dead in iraq right now.

try again.

Luis

Luis

Preston, ID
February 2004

SEP 01, 2005 11:03 AM

Sophie_Sass said:

PuppyRiot said:

Luis said:
It must be awful living in that kind of fear.



I have a feeling that same thing could easily have happened here in the U.S. or London for instance. I think the fear itself is a far greater weapon for terrorists than actual bombs.


I agree. Had there actually been a terrorist attack it's likely there would have only been a handful of people dead, probably no where near 1,000. Of course it probably would have also resulted in a stampede. whatever


I disagree. I've never seen 1,000 Christians make a pilgrimage!

Doghouse_Reilly

doghouse_reilly

I'm lost
February 2004

SEP 01, 2005 12:05 PM

stockula said:

photoline said:
Add that statistic to all of the unreported civilian casualties in Iraq since "Operation Shock and Awe".



You're not interested in all the Iraqi civilians killed in Iraq BEFORE the American invasion, are you? No, didn't think so.



Neither was our government, as most of that killing was done when he was our little CIA buddy. Conveniently selective memory, as usual.

Sophie_Sass

Sophie_Sass

Los Angeles, CA
October 2003

SEP 01, 2005 01:41 PM

Luis said:

Sophie_Sass said:

PuppyRiot said:

Luis said:
It must be awful living in that kind of fear.



I have a feeling that same thing could easily have happened here in the U.S. or London for instance. I think the fear itself is a far greater weapon for terrorists than actual bombs.


I agree. Had there actually been a terrorist attack it's likely there would have only been a handful of people dead, probably no where near 1,000. Of course it probably would have also resulted in a stampede. whatever


I disagree. I've never seen 1,000 Christians make a pilgrimage!


I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but in case you're not... I think Puppyriot's point was that this could happen anywhere there's a large crowd of people, regardless of the circumstances.
I just got a picture in my head of this kind of thing happening at the Rose Parade where every year around one million people show up, including my parents, and it's freaking me out.

xLusTx

xLusTx

Madison, WI
August 2005

SEP 01, 2005 08:47 PM

PuppyRiot said:
I have a feeling that same thing could easily have happened here in the U.S. or London for instance. I think the fear itself is a far greater weapon for terrorists than actual bombs.



I agree 100%.