NEWS: One Fuck, Two Fuck, Red Fuck, Blue Fuck

POLITICS: One Fuck, Two Fuck, Red Fuck, Blue Fuck

Do you remember when you were in school, and the administrators bitched at you for your colourful language? What about when a lonely errant fuck slipped through your lips, and the teacher would stare at you wide-eyed, yelling a mortified "Language!" in your general direction?

Well, I think schools in the United States could learn a little something from people of
Wellingborough in the U.K:

Of course there will always be those who disagree with such an idea:

So swear on you say? Well, the school also plans to send a card home to those who keep a clean record (and mouth) informing the parents of their child's success. Which seems appropriate, as the students who care about gold stars are unlikely to indulge in these more direct elements of language anyway.

i actually said fuck in front of all of my english teachers from 10th grade and up. but they also liked me, so there you go.

Once when discussing the lyrical genius of RATM's Killing in the Name, a friend was inclined to scream the "Mother fuckeeeeeeerrrrrrr!!" part. The teacher laughed.

As for the quote from the Daily Mail, ignore it: horrible conservative rag of a paper.

I think it's not that bad an idea, after a while the novelty will wear off and it'll be fine. This is providing punishments are suitable enough for going over the 5 swears.

Well, I guess Brits would know better than a damn Yank how 'Alice in Wonderland logic' works, since the book is all about parodying their so-called common-sense systems and way of life... but 'reverse logic' can backfire too.

if its allowed than it won't be as taboo. so it might work. the only problem is, something even more taboo will get popular

its not like the little fuckers don't already swear up a storm already

Possibly. But the dangerous more taboo things already appeal to their enthusiasts, and the lesser taboos are equally harmless. My problem with the Clean-Mouth ideal is that Fuck is sometimes by far the most appropriate choice of word.

Wow, the UK is completely nuts.

The Daily Mail is forever making up stories like this. I haven't seen one that didn't turn out to be bullshit.

Oh crap, not again.

[Edited on Aug 31, 2005 by tolrag]

It's true, it was on the news the other night.

I think disrespect takes place long before the inflamatory explicit remark is spoken. I don't think the expression of which in the classroom will cause all that much of a problem.

I belive the idea here is an attempt to difuse the idea of swearing by trying to not make it an issue. I definitely believe there are individuals that are interested in seeking out the taboo and testing those boundaries, but there are those that simply when told not do something or say something will think of nothing other than that which they cannot do and cannot say.

Telling someone what not to say, doesn't give a person something to say, and they will often focus in on what they "don't have" because it has been defined for them.

Silly.
I would understand work but school.

Coming from a Texan?

[Edited on Aug 31, 2005 by WesB]

One Fuck, Two Fuck, Red Fuck, Blue Fuck... careful, one more and you will be 'spoken' to.

Actually, they do. Behold... the world's
most universally ratified document on human rights.

I'm not convinced encouraging this will actually improve behavior. Perhaps it will reduce referrals, but I doubt it will make kids improve their actual behavior. I don't favor throwing the book at kids for using a little foul language. But instead of making a rule "allowing" it, teachers just don't enforce the standing rule. That way you don't have to play mommy and daddy (which is the most horrible part of being a teacher), but you're not condoning the behavior. Because if you do, at least for a time, it will kill any chance of getting anything done in the classroom; everyone will be so amused with their new "privilege."


[Edited on Aug 31, 2005 by mamet]

I would be pissed as a parent, to learn that my child is allowed to cuss at school....if I'm discouraging him from doing something at home, the last thing I need is for him to come to me saying "but I can do it at school"...

hahah i used to slip a random "fuck" into conversation. i still do sometimes its truly a beautiful thing when done properly.

I think people make too big a deal out of obscenity in the first place. Obscenity, frankly, is a myth. What makes one word permissible and another taboo is arbitrary to the extreme. If you take the taboo out of the word (the taboo is ridiculous anyway), then it simply becomes another word.

One other thing, you honestly can't be comparing dropping the f-bomb to getting knocked up as an early teen or shooting other people. If you tell a kid, "Don't," they still will, they'll just try to make sure you don't know about it. If you impress upon them the reality and the consequences of actions, you stand a much better chance of reaching them.

I heard about this on a local radio morning show. Pretty fuckin' crazy idea, if you ask me!!!