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hadees

hadees

Austin, TX
December 2003

AUG 30, 2005 02:17 PM

Now if you have ever read any of my other posts you will know although I am not far left i am neither far right. I infact dislike both major parties. Anyway I was listening to Rush Limbaugh the last few days, I don't even really know why. However one thing kept sticking out in my mind, alot of what he was crying to high hell about the Democrates doing were the exact same thing the Republicans do also. And what gets me is how people totally miss that correlation.

For example he was yelling about something and how you can never change a Democrates mind. They will continue to attack you no matter what you do. So all you can do is be who you are and ignore them.

I would really like to hear from some of the conservative members here about what they think of Limbaugh because he just seems to me like a media whore.

And don't even get me started on his stand against Drugs...

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

AUG 30, 2005 02:22 PM

Can I tell you something? The Pope...

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

...totally a Catholic.

hadees

hadees

Austin, TX
December 2003

AUG 30, 2005 02:26 PM

Keith said:
Can I tell you something? The Pope...

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

...totally a Catholic.



Yeah well I knew he was full of shit but not necicarily calling Dems out for the exact same thing Republicans do. And the worst of it I don't always disagree but it is infuriating that he never makes that same connection for the far Right.

I really want to get a conservative's opion on him


[Edited on Aug 30, 2005 by hadees]

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

AUG 30, 2005 02:52 PM

i'd say something, but keith totally had it covered.

googused

googused

Portland, OR
OLD SKOOL

AUG 30, 2005 03:01 PM

Don't you mean "Republicanes"? wink

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

AUG 30, 2005 03:16 PM

Well I started listening to Rush a little less than a year ago. Never really listened to him before because, why? AM radio is the pits with all the commercials, I pretty much agree with most everything he says, I can get all the right-wing punditry/politics/media criticism I want from blogs, and I like NPR fine (you always learn some neat things you didn't know before, especially arts & culture-wise). But last year at a new job, sometimes my boss and I would go on business trips on long drives and the choice I had for listening on the drive was country music or Rush Limbaugh. Kind of a no-brainer, I took Rush. After a while, he sort of grew on me and I found myself looking forward to his show.

I find Rush to be really funny and pretty sharp. He belied a lot of pre-conceived notions I had about him. But that's not the best thing about Rush. The amazing thing about him is how he completely and fully understands how the mainstream media works and how they report things. When events happened, he's capable of telling his audience exactly how the media will report it according to their editorial biases, and he's almost always dead on. He can also tell you what the Democrats and liberals will say before they say it as well.

When politicians, bills, and various other machinations happen in Washington, he knows all about the players, their motivations, their tactics and strategy, the ramifications, stakes, and consequences, and explains it all very lucidly and in an entertaining manner. And like with the media, it's almost like he's getting inside these peoples' heads.

I'll give you an example of this: the judicial nominations filibuster by the Democrats early this year. The Democrats decided to obstruct the president's nomination of federal judges by suddenly declaring such important posts warranted a 60-40 vote to end debate. This qualification has NEVER been demanded in the case of bringing nominees to a vote. It was a blatent abuse of the Senate rules. But the Democrats with remarkable mendacity managed to play on the public's fears of one party wielding too much power in Washington, to say that it was the REPUBLICANS who were destroying Senate tradition and abusing power by considering using the nuclear option to stop this nonsense. And amazingly, due to the weakness of the GOP Senate leadership and the complicity of the RINOs, the Democrats won a half-assed comprimise to permit a handful of the president's nominees a confirmation vote when all were so entitled. Rush explained all this as it happened.

Fast forward a couple of months, there was a lengthy article in the New York Times Magazine about the post-election Democrats and how they handled political life after their huge defeat in 2004. The reporter interviewed Democrat strategists, consultants, and Senators about the nominee filibuster and they candidly confirmed everthing Rush had explained on the fly as it happened months earlier. Then the reporter asked "Well, you basically turned the truth of the situation on its head; the Democrats were the ones breaking Senate tradition and abusing power, not the GOP. Aren't you worried the public will resent being played and manipulated like that?" The consultant laughed derisively and said these matters are above the public's pay-grade. The Democrats had complete contempt for not only the truth, but the public's intelligence as well. And Rush was providing the straight story through his commentary, while if you wanted it from the NY Times, you had to wait until months later after the whole issue was settled and over. And it wasn't half as funny or entertaining.

googused

googused

Portland, OR
OLD SKOOL

AUG 30, 2005 03:50 PM

stockula said:

A bunch of Stockulogic™



Now you know exactly how full of shit Rush Limbaugh is. Stocky is the sort that celebrates and advocates nuclear attacks and calls black people "negroes"

It gets his dick hard because it gives him the spin he loves to hear.

thorr74

thorr74

Sylvan Lake, AB
December 2004

AUG 30, 2005 03:56 PM

stockula said:
The Democrats had complete contempt for not only the truth, but the public's intelligence as well.



Fair enough, but wasn't one of the original points that the Republicans accuse and critizise the Democrats of things they do themselves??
Just wondering, I'm just a dumb Canadian, the Republicans want to invade us anyhow wink

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

AUG 30, 2005 03:57 PM

stockula said:
Crap



So in between fellating Rush did you happen to catch just how incredibly full of shit he is?

I've never heard someone who could trot out such bile and spin before. The fact that people actually buy it makes me physically ill.

I'm sure you two would get along beautifully.

Ryan_Dipietro

Ryan_Dipietro

Naples, FL
April 2004

AUG 30, 2005 04:04 PM

stockula said:
Well I started listening to Rush a little less than a year ago. Never really listened to him before because, why? AM radio is the pits with all the commercials, I pretty much agree with most everything he says, I can get all the right-wing punditry/politics/media criticism I want from blogs, and I like NPR fine (you always learn some neat things you didn't know before, especially arts & culture-wise). But last year at a new job, sometimes my boss and I would go on business trips on long drives and the choice I had for listening on the drive was country music or Rush Limbaugh. Kind of a no-brainer, I took Rush. After a while, he sort of grew on me and I found myself looking forward to his show.

I find Rush to be really funny and pretty sharp. He belied a lot of pre-conceived notions I had about him. But that's not the best thing about Rush. The amazing thing about him is how he completely and fully understands how the mainstream media works and how they report things. When events happened, he's capable of telling his audience exactly how the media will report it according to their editorial biases, and he's almost always dead on. He can also tell you what the Democrats and liberals will say before they say it as well.

When politicians, bills, and various other machinations happen in Washington, he knows all about the players, their motivations, their tactics and strategy, the ramifications, stakes, and consequences, and explains it all very lucidly and in an entertaining manner. And like with the media, it's almost like he's getting inside these peoples' heads.

I'll give you an example of this: the judicial nominations filibuster by the Democrats early this year. The Democrats decided to obstruct the president's nomination of federal judges by suddenly declaring such important posts warranted a 60-40 vote to end debate. This qualification has NEVER been demanded in the case of bringing nominees to a vote. It was a blatent abuse of the Senate rules. But the Democrats with remarkable mendacity managed to play on the public's fears of one party wielding too much power in Washington, to say that it was the REPUBLICANS who were destroying Senate tradition and abusing power by considering using the nuclear option to stop this nonsense. And amazingly, due to the weakness of the GOP Senate leadership and the complicity of the RINOs, the Democrats won a half-assed comprimise to permit a handful of the president's nominees a confirmation vote when all were so entitled. Rush explained all this as it happened.

Fast forward a couple of months, there was a lengthy article in the New York Times Magazine about the post-election Democrats and how they handled political life after their huge defeat in 2004. The reporter interviewed Democrat strategists, consultants, and Senators about the nominee filibuster and they candidly confirmed everthing Rush had explained on the fly as it happened months earlier. Then the reporter asked "Well, you basically turned the truth of the situation on its head; the Democrats were the ones breaking Senate tradition and abusing power, not the GOP. Aren't you worried the public will resent being played and manipulated like that?" The consultant laughed derisively and said these matters are above the public's pay-grade. The Democrats had complete contempt for not only the truth, but the public's intelligence as well. And Rush was providing the straight story through his commentary, while if you wanted it from the NY Times, you had to wait until months later after the whole issue was settled and over. And it wasn't half as funny or entertaining.




"Rebublicans suck."


"NO! DEMOCRATS suck!"


"NO! My dad can beat up yours!"


"FUCK YOU! I can totally piss farther than you."




I know exactly where this thread is going. whatever

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

AUG 30, 2005 04:06 PM

RyanDipietro said:

I know exactly where this thread is going. whatever



Straight to pundit hell baby!

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

AUG 30, 2005 04:06 PM

The Extreme Right=The Extreme Left

He a political pundit, of course he's full of shit. But honestly, Rush could discover the cure for cancer and I'd still hate him. You don't fuck with Donovan McNabb. tongue I'd walk through fire for that man.


But seriously, it doesn't take much intelligence to see Rush is a hate-filled hack.

[Edited on Aug 30, 2005 by mamet]

Ryan_Dipietro

Ryan_Dipietro

Naples, FL
April 2004

AUG 30, 2005 04:10 PM

FreakPirate said:

RyanDipietro said:

I know exactly where this thread is going. whatever



Straight to pundit hell baby!




So that's where you go when you want to get fucked in the ass by Sean Hannity for the rest of time!

freshprncebelair

freshprncebelair

Ellicott City, MD
June 2004

AUG 30, 2005 04:11 PM

mamet said:
The Extreme Right=The Extreme Left



Damn straight

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

AUG 30, 2005 04:16 PM

RyanDipietro said:

So that's where you go when you want to get fucked in the ass by Sean Hannity for the rest of time!



I thought it was where you go if you want to watch Sean Hannity get gangbanged by the firey imps of Truth, Reason, and Not Being Completely Full of Shit.

tolrag

tolrag

I'm lost
April 2003

AUG 30, 2005 04:18 PM

skankzor said:

mamet said:
The Extreme Right=The Extreme Left



Damn straight


Not really, the extreme left are a bunch of pointless nonentities, whilst the far right are well represented in positions of power in politic and the media.

Ryan_Dipietro

Ryan_Dipietro

Naples, FL
April 2004

AUG 30, 2005 04:19 PM

FreakPirate said:

RyanDipietro said:

So that's where you go when you want to get fucked in the ass by Sean Hannity for the rest of time!



I thought it was where you go if you want to watch Sean Hannity get gangbanged by the firey imps of Truth, Reason, and Not Being Completely Full of Shit.



Hahahaha

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

AUG 30, 2005 09:00 PM

googuse said:

stockula said:

A bunch of Stockulogic™



Now you know exactly how full of shit Rush Limbaugh is. Stocky is the sort that celebrates and advocates nuclear attacks and calls black people "negroes"

It gets his dick hard because it gives him the spin he loves to hear.



What's wrong with calling people negroes? There's a lot of negative connotations the the word "black" that subconsciously append themselves to people by calling them that. African-American isn't good because would you call a white guy from South Africa who emigrated to the US African-American? Or a Morroccan? And yeah I know "negro" means "black" in Spanish, but we dont say "It was a negro day when the twin towers fell" or "His felony conviction is a negro mark against him."

And yeah, I wholly approve of nuking countries that sneak attack us. It discourages anyone else from getting ideas.

Are you aware of how instead of trying to engage me with the present discussion and issues, you're attempting to discredit anything I have to say so you won't have to? Why?

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

AUG 30, 2005 09:03 PM

RyanDipietro said:

stockula said:
Well I started listening to Rush a little less than a year ago. Never really listened to him before because, why? AM radio is the pits with all the commercials, I pretty much agree with most everything he says, I can get all the right-wing punditry/politics/media criticism I want from blogs, and I like NPR fine (you always learn some neat things you didn't know before, especially arts & culture-wise). But last year at a new job, sometimes my boss and I would go on business trips on long drives and the choice I had for listening on the drive was country music or Rush Limbaugh. Kind of a no-brainer, I took Rush. After a while, he sort of grew on me and I found myself looking forward to his show.

I find Rush to be really funny and pretty sharp. He belied a lot of pre-conceived notions I had about him. But that's not the best thing about Rush. The amazing thing about him is how he completely and fully understands how the mainstream media works and how they report things. When events happened, he's capable of telling his audience exactly how the media will report it according to their editorial biases, and he's almost always dead on. He can also tell you what the Democrats and liberals will say before they say it as well.

When politicians, bills, and various other machinations happen in Washington, he knows all about the players, their motivations, their tactics and strategy, the ramifications, stakes, and consequences, and explains it all very lucidly and in an entertaining manner. And like with the media, it's almost like he's getting inside these peoples' heads.

I'll give you an example of this: the judicial nominations filibuster by the Democrats early this year. The Democrats decided to obstruct the president's nomination of federal judges by suddenly declaring such important posts warranted a 60-40 vote to end debate. This qualification has NEVER been demanded in the case of bringing nominees to a vote. It was a blatent abuse of the Senate rules. But the Democrats with remarkable mendacity managed to play on the public's fears of one party wielding too much power in Washington, to say that it was the REPUBLICANS who were destroying Senate tradition and abusing power by considering using the nuclear option to stop this nonsense. And amazingly, due to the weakness of the GOP Senate leadership and the complicity of the RINOs, the Democrats won a half-assed comprimise to permit a handful of the president's nominees a confirmation vote when all were so entitled. Rush explained all this as it happened.

Fast forward a couple of months, there was a lengthy article in the New York Times Magazine about the post-election Democrats and how they handled political life after their huge defeat in 2004. The reporter interviewed Democrat strategists, consultants, and Senators about the nominee filibuster and they candidly confirmed everthing Rush had explained on the fly as it happened months earlier. Then the reporter asked "Well, you basically turned the truth of the situation on its head; the Democrats were the ones breaking Senate tradition and abusing power, not the GOP. Aren't you worried the public will resent being played and manipulated like that?" The consultant laughed derisively and said these matters are above the public's pay-grade. The Democrats had complete contempt for not only the truth, but the public's intelligence as well. And Rush was providing the straight story through his commentary, while if you wanted it from the NY Times, you had to wait until months later after the whole issue was settled and over. And it wasn't half as funny or entertaining.




"Rebublicans suck."


"NO! DEMOCRATS suck!"


"NO! My dad can beat up yours!"


"FUCK YOU! I can totally piss farther than you."




I know exactly where this thread is going. whatever




hadees said:
I would really like to hear from some of the conservative members here about what they think of Limbaugh because he just seems to me like a media whore.



He asked, I did my best to answer him in good faith. Check out the reaction I got for bothering.


[Edited on Aug 30, 2005 by stockula]

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 30, 2005 09:10 PM

stockula said:
What's wrong with calling people negroes?



The same reason we don't burn witches anymore. What was once socially acceptable no longer is.

As far as Rush Limbaugh goes...he's a windbag. I remember watching his show a ways back. "Blah, blah, blah.....look at all the bad stuff Bill Clinton is doing...blah, blah, blah....look how petty I can be"

It's all partisan entertainment.

JackMD

JackMD

Vashon, WA
June 2004

AUG 30, 2005 09:20 PM

Rush should be on Cartoon Network

Andvari

Andvari

Calgary, AB
April 2005

AUG 30, 2005 09:25 PM

stockula said:
And yeah, I wholly approve of nuking countries that sneak attack us. It discourages anyone else from getting ideas.




Jah

Jah

I'm lost
August 2005

AUG 30, 2005 09:26 PM

hadees said:
Now if you have ever read any of my other posts you will know although I am not far left i am neither far right. I infact dislike both major parties. Anyway I was listening to Rush Limbaugh the last few days, I don't even really know why. However one thing kept sticking out in my mind, alot of what he was crying to high hell about the Democrates doing were the exact same thing the Republicans do also. And what gets me is how people totally miss that correlation.

For example he was yelling about something and how you can never change a Democrates mind. They will continue to attack you no matter what you do. So all you can do is be who you are and ignore them.

I would really like to hear from some of the conservative members here about what they think of Limbaugh because he just seems to me like a media whore.

And don't even get me started on his stand against Drugs...




Ask Limbaugh if he knows where to find any oxycotin. I'm fiending

[Edited on Aug 30, 2005 by Jah]

[Edited on Aug 30, 2005 by Jah]

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

AUG 30, 2005 10:07 PM

Can I say something? I disagree with Rush about just about everything. I think he's a liar, a tool, and a pompous twit, but... he is a brilliant radio-man. His timing is perfect, he's funny, sharp-witted, and very good at what he does. If he had become famous for anything other than a show about politics, I would totally listen to it.

PatrickY

PatrickY

Vancouver, WA
December 2003

AUG 30, 2005 10:16 PM

Keith said:
Can I say something? I disagree with Rush about just about everything. I think he's a liar, a tool, and a pompous twit, but... he is a brilliant radio-man. His timing is perfect, he's funny, sharp-witted, and very good at what he does. If he had become famous for anything other than a show about politics, I would totally listen to it.



Rush Limbaugh is very, very good at what he does, and he's got a natural talent for radio showmanship, that's for sure.

which is why he's able to put 10 pounds of horseshit in a 5 pound bag, market it as "the truth", and sell it to millions every day.

He doesn't get into "their" (ie; liberals) heads, he gets into the heads of his audience, and plays them like a fucking fiddle.

[Edited on Aug 30, 2005 by PatrickY]

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