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Kaneda

Kaneda

United Kingdom
January 2003

JUL 20, 2005 12:27 AM

"Other infants had already perished from lack of care."

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

JUL 20, 2005 12:34 AM

Keith said:
Can I ask a question, and I'm completely serious.

It's okay to give your baby away for adoption, and it's okay for someone to pay to you to say, be a surrogate mother for their child, why is it so bad for someone to pay you for your child? It's just accepted that this is VERY BAD, but I've never quite heard why. It reminds me of prostitution, kind of. "It's okay to give it away to whoever you want, but don't SELL IT!"

I understand that no one would want a baby farm or whatever, but seriously, can anyone answer this for me?


Imagine you need some amount of money. Without that money you're going to go hungry, lose your house, not be able to have that surgery, whatever. With the money your problems are solved.

'We' don't wnat to put people in that terribly difficult situation, so we remove the choice from them buy making it illegal to sell children.

I think the problem isn't that people are getting money for children, but that dodgy gangs are buying children. Buying a girl so she can work for you is pretty unpleasant. Buying a girl so she can be a future bride for your son is not nice.

llouys

llouys

Brazil
August 2003

JUL 20, 2005 12:47 AM

dem_z said:

Keith said:
Can I ask a question, and I'm completely serious.

It's okay to give your baby away for adoption, and it's okay for someone to pay to you to say, be a surrogate mother for their child, why is it so bad for someone to pay you for your child? It's just accepted that this is VERY BAD, but I've never quite heard why. It reminds me of prostitution, kind of. "It's okay to give it away to whoever you want, but don't SELL IT!"

I understand that no one would want a baby farm or whatever, but seriously, can anyone answer this for me?


Imagine you need some amount of money. Without that money you're going to go hungry, lose your house, not be able to have that surgery, whatever. With the money your problems are solved.

'We' don't wnat to put people in that terribly difficult situation, so we remove the choice from them buy making it illegal to sell children.




Sorry to waltz in here, but this circumstance is sort of hard to imagine. After all, it takes 9 months to squeeze out a puppy. Eheh. Point being, if somebody's desperate for money, as desperate as you suggest, isn't it probably going to come to a head within that period of time?

skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

JUL 20, 2005 12:40 PM

In such a case the parent would take out the equivalent of a payday loan - just nine months in advance. Imagine the scenario ...

"I need $100 to save my house."

"OK, what kind of collateral do you have for me?"

Well, nothing right now. But my wife is getting pregnant soon, and when she delivers the baby, we can sell it and repay you this loan."

"Sounds good to me! Sign here, Mr. Wong. It's a pleasure doing business with you. And please keep Golden Palace Check Cashing and Baby Trafficking in mind for all your future money-lending needs!"

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

JUL 20, 2005 12:45 PM

louys said:

dem_z said:

Keith said:
Can I ask a question, and I'm completely serious.

It's okay to give your baby away for adoption, and it's okay for someone to pay to you to say, be a surrogate mother for their child, why is it so bad for someone to pay you for your child? It's just accepted that this is VERY BAD, but I've never quite heard why. It reminds me of prostitution, kind of. "It's okay to give it away to whoever you want, but don't SELL IT!"

I understand that no one would want a baby farm or whatever, but seriously, can anyone answer this for me?


Imagine you need some amount of money. Without that money you're going to go hungry, lose your house, not be able to have that surgery, whatever. With the money your problems are solved.

'We' don't wnat to put people in that terribly difficult situation, so we remove the choice from them buy making it illegal to sell children.




Sorry to waltz in here, but this circumstance is sort of hard to imagine. After all, it takes 9 months to squeeze out a puppy. Eheh. Point being, if somebody's desperate for money, as desperate as you suggest, isn't it probably going to come to a head within that period of time?


No. How much more evidence do you need that people are selling babies because they need the cash? whatever

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