£40 for a girl. No, not just for an hour or a 'happy ending', that's £40 to buy a baby girl from China.
The youngest of the 27 babies rescued when police swooped on a baby-trafficking gang in the central Chinese province of Henan was only ten days old, the oldest 18 months. Other infants had already perished from lack of care.
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Would-be parents are willing to pay up to £1,500 for a baby – more than the average annual income. That means that the traffickers can make hefty profits, although their costs are rising – possibly pushed up by an escalating police crackdown.
Two years ago in southwestern Yunnan province, poor families or single mothers were prepared to sell a prized baby boy for £40 or a girl for £15.
Today, a trafficker in that remote and poor rural region must pay £75 for a boy and almost £40 for a girl.
Being sold is lousy, but some girls have it worse.
Fuelling the trade is China’s strict birth-control policy. The “one couple, one child” family planning rule prompts some parents, particularly in the countryside, to kill baby girls and try again for a boy.
Some couples are prepared to buy a baby boy rather than risk giving birth to a girl.
So why, if girls are so unwanted, does anyone buy them? The horrific answer is: to make sure there's someone for their son to marry.
One consequence of the one-child policy has been that boys now vastly outnumber girls — a result of abortions of unwanted female foetuses or of female infanticide.
That means that parents anxious to guarantee their son a bride prefer to leave nothing to chance and to buy a baby girl.
The traffickers have also found other lucrative markets among poor farmers who cannot attract a wife and want to buy a child bride, or among ChinaÂ’s burgeoning brothels.
Ironically, China actually has one of the best-run and most respected international adoption programs in the world. Their orphanages are generally overcrowded, but the care is good and children are treated well. However, giving your baby away in order to be adopted by (most likely) a Western parent/family is probably not as enticing to some as selling your baby away. Yet opponents of international adoption argue that the practice itself encourages black market baby selling (though mostly on an international level - i.e., parents offering to sell their babies to Western parents looking to adopt).
If my article on this very subject had been accepted for publication, I could direct you to it. But...damn my publishers.
MissTyrios said:
Ironically, China actually has one of the best-run and most respected international adoption programs in the world. Their orphanages are generally overcrowded, but the care is good and children are treated well. However, giving your baby away in order to be adopted by (most likely) a Western parent/family is probably not as enticing to some as selling your baby away. Yet opponents of international adoption argue that the practice itself encourages black market baby selling (though mostly on an international level - i.e., parents offering to sell their babies to Western parents looking to adopt).
If my article on this very subject had been accepted for publication, I could direct you to it. But...damn my publishers.
It sounds kind of bizarre, but this situation has a lot of similarities with the drug war. If the adoption program in China is well run, then why don't they figure out some way to give the parents a "stipend" or something? I mean, if the alternative is an awful human trafficking racket, then why not pull the rug out from under it by removing the financial incentive?
That honestly sounds like a better alternative to me. Yes, technically, the government would be "buying" children, but it's still better... am I a sicko?
MissTyrios said:
Ironically, China actually has one of the best-run and most respected international adoption programs in the world. Their orphanages are generally overcrowded, but the care is good and children are treated well. However, giving your baby away in order to be adopted by (most likely) a Western parent/family is probably not as enticing to some as selling your baby away. Yet opponents of international adoption argue that the practice itself encourages black market baby selling (though mostly on an international level - i.e., parents offering to sell their babies to Western parents looking to adopt).
If my article on this very subject had been accepted for publication, I could direct you to it. But...damn my publishers.
My sister's second adopted daughter must be an exception to the rule then. She's only two and has already had a root canal.
MissTyrios said:
Ironically, China actually has one of the best-run and most respected international adoption programs in the world. Their orphanages are generally overcrowded, but the care is good and children are treated well. However, giving your baby away in order to be adopted by (most likely) a Western parent/family is probably not as enticing to some as selling your baby away. Yet opponents of international adoption argue that the practice itself encourages black market baby selling (though mostly on an international level - i.e., parents offering to sell their babies to Western parents looking to adopt).
If my article on this very subject had been accepted for publication, I could direct you to it. But...damn my publishers.
My sister's second adopted daughter must be an exception to the rule then. She's only two and has already had a root canal.
A lot of the kids do have some health problems - but compared to orphanges in, say, Romania, China's are well-run. My cousin couldn't walk or talk at all at age 2 when my aunt and uncle brought her here from China, but she learned very quickly. She had some bonding/adjusting issues for a short time (individualized attention and nurturing is obviously lacking in a vast, state-run orphanage), but now, she can't be distinguished from any other 4-year-old.
i don't understand it. poor people make babies only for the old traditions and the pension.
if it's a boy, it's good. if it's a girl, they sell it. how sick is this?
i don't understand it. poor people make babies only for the old traditions and the pension.
Yes, because as we all know, rural areas of developing nations have full access to family planning education and have access to and the money for safe, reliable birth control methods, so of course they're only having babies for tradition and money...
It's okay to give your baby away for adoption, and it's okay for someone to pay to you to say, be a surrogate mother for their child, why is it so bad for someone to pay you for your child? It's just accepted that this is VERY BAD, but I've never quite heard why. It reminds me of prostitution, kind of. "It's okay to give it away to whoever you want, but don't SELL IT!"
I understand that no one would want a baby farm or whatever, but seriously, can anyone answer this for me?
Keith said:
Can I ask a question, and I'm completely serious.
It's okay to give your baby away for adoption, and it's okay for someone to pay to you to say, be a surrogate mother for their child, why is it so bad for someone to pay you for your child? It's just accepted that this is VERY BAD, but I've never quite heard why. It reminds me of prostitution, kind of. "It's okay to give it away to whoever you want, but don't SELL IT!"
I understand that no one would want a baby farm or whatever, but seriously, can anyone answer this for me?
Because of the fact that we want to believe that human life is invaluable, and that to put a price tag on a living breathing human being is wrong no matter what the other options are.
It's the belief that we are above that, that we are not actually slaves to money, even though in the long history of humankind people have been bought, sold, and traded the entire time -- especially those deemed worthless or unwanted by their culture.
Keith said:
Can I ask a question, and I'm completely serious.
It's okay to give your baby away for adoption, and it's okay for someone to pay to you to say, be a surrogate mother for their child, why is it so bad for someone to pay you for your child? It's just accepted that this is VERY BAD, but I've never quite heard why. It reminds me of prostitution, kind of. "It's okay to give it away to whoever you want, but don't SELL IT!"
I understand that no one would want a baby farm or whatever, but seriously, can anyone answer this for me?
Because of the fact that we want to believe that human life is invaluable, and that to put a price tag on a living breathing human being is wrong no matter what the other options are.
It's the belief that we are above that, that we are not actually slaves to money, even though in the long history of humankind people have been bought, sold, and traded the entire time -- especially those deemed worthless or unwanted by their culture.
Some adoptions do involve money to the parent, at least for their medical bills and basic needs wihile the child is growing. I think the issue here is that the babies are grossly mistreated and sold like objects on the street that is the problem.
Keith said:
Can I ask a question, and I'm completely serious.
It's okay to give your baby away for adoption, and it's okay for someone to pay to you to say, be a surrogate mother for their child, why is it so bad for someone to pay you for your child? It's just accepted that this is VERY BAD, but I've never quite heard why. It reminds me of prostitution, kind of. "It's okay to give it away to whoever you want, but don't SELL IT!"
I understand that no one would want a baby farm or whatever, but seriously, can anyone answer this for me?
Because of the fact that we want to believe that human life is invaluable, and that to put a price tag on a living breathing human being is wrong no matter what the other options are.
It's the belief that we are above that, that we are not actually slaves to money, even though in the long history of humankind people have been bought, sold, and traded the entire time -- especially those deemed worthless or unwanted by their culture.
Some adoptions do involve money to the parent, at least for their medical bills and basic needs wihile the child is growing. I think the issue here is that the babies are grossly mistreated and sold like objects on the street that is the problem.
Were there allegations of mistreatment in this article?
Would it be better to turn a girl child face down in the box of ashes that was traditionally kept under the birth-bed for that purpose?
dem_z
United Kingdom
June 2004
JUL 19, 2005 03:54 PM