Just Poor Kids Fighting A Rich Man's War

I got this out of Matthew Good's Blog

I dont know who Drew it or who Wrote it.

but it makes a point.

A very stupid fallacious point.

I'd say 25% of the 18 year olds in the military are there because they were poor, and didn't have any other options.

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[Edited on Feb 23, 2005 by PsychoMagnet]

Whats so Fallacious about it??

the majority of soilders I know joined for the money.

also, if your town/ city was attacked for no reason, you mean to say you'd sit on your ass and watch? or run away while your house gets blown to shit??

Back this up with anything reliable.

so most of our troops have trust funds,
army recruiters are saints,
Iraq had WMD,
and Americans would be awfully polite to an occupying army.

you'd make a hell of a white house correspondent, by the way.

[Edited on Feb 23, 2005 by marcello]

Hmmn. Never mind, maybe...

[Edited on Feb 23, 2005 by dictionary_girl]

we're not even nice to an occupying army (insurgents) in a country that ISN'T OURS!!

Not to nitpick, but insurgents, by definition, cannot be an "occupying army."

You might find this hard to believe, but some people join the military because they're into it, they're patriotic, they want to do the sorts of things that only the military provides, like handling powerful weapons or flying high performance aircraft, and serving their country.

I'm sure plenty of young people join the military to get out of BFE or to learn skills. But for the most part, they're not the ones doing most of the dying in combat. Instead, it's the guys who join combat arms looking for excitement, adventure, and are enthusiastic about jobs like being an infantryman, a Navy SEAL or forward observer. These jobs have no counterpart in the civilian life. Being able to operate a howitzer probably wont translate into a job in the private sector. They're there because they want to be.

The implication is that no one in their right mind would be in the Armed Forces unless they were given a bait-and-switch by recruiters, and that is just not true.


[Edited on May 05, 2005 by stockula]

Actually I think you just choose to read it that way. As I choose to focus on the word I have bolded in your quote. As long as that word is some and not all (or maybe, maybe I would concede if it were most, but I doubt it) then the point is neither stupid or fallacious.

Give me a fucking break.

Though it does make you wonder, why does the military give people the bait and switch?

"another nice man at carls school called mr. guidance counselor recommended carl go to community college, affordable knowledge that could open many doors to many noble careers"

oh i forgot, we don't live in a free country, carl was forced into the military. right?

gimme a fucken break.

You Sir need to appologize to ever member of the Armed services you come across for awhile.

Or why don't you just finish the thought and go piss on a couple of Veteran's graves.

Since you live near Ft. Drum maybe you should go print that out and hand it out to the men and women as they come and go.

Or would that take a little more guts then just throwing some stupid thing you found up on the internet?

this is the single funniest, most ignorant comment I've seen in ages. wow. no, really, wow.

What bait and switch are you talking about?

That someone signed up to join the military and got sent overseas into a combat zone?

Last time I checked, it wasn't a secret that being in the military was a good way to get sent to a combat zone. I know my recruiter mentioned it.

Or maybe I'm just a "Poor Kid fighting".... or have been on the burial detail of more than a few of them.

I was trying to be polite instead of telling him that I hope he gets beaten or tear gassed by a riot cop the next time he attends a rally.

Couple of guys from my unit have already died. Have several friends that have come back due to wounds. Have many more brothers that are still over there. So maybe you're the ignorant one here.

[Edited on Feb 23, 2005 by Gaiseric]

Do you have any data to support this? I'm sure that most people take their financial situation into consideration when selecting a career; that doesn't mean that they're poor.

Hahahahahaaaaaa! Hey, breaking news: Being in the military isn't an excuse to be an aggressive retard.
...or maybe it is???

This makes me very sad.

-Trevor

Of course I cited it in my post... "I'd say"

Based on my HS experiances (I was an ROTC nerd) I knew almost all the kids that signed up right out of school.

just think about your family members that are in the service ...how would they like it if they read what you wrote in this thread