Pursuing her natural constituency

Sen. Clinton Pushes for Voting Holiday

Thu Feb 17, 4:15 PM ET

By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites), a possible White House candidate in 2008, joined 2004 nominee John Kerry (news - web sites) and other Democrats Thursday in urging that Election Day be made a federal holiday to encourage voting.

She also pushed for legislation that would allow all ex-felons to vote.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&u=/ap/20050217/ap_on_go_co/voting_machines_clinton_1&printer=1

I'm glad I'm not in the party that sees untapped electoral gold in convicted felons.




[Edited on Feb 17, 2005 by stockula]

And I am proud to say that my party doesn't count you among its members.

its a proven fact most fellons are liberals

Right. So this is bad because...... because keeping a lot of people from voting outweighs providing a solution to the Diebold lack-of-paper-trail debacle that happened last time?

(Edited to make my position on the matter a little clearer, because on second reading it struck me that it almost made me look like I opposed the Hill-meister.)

[Edited on Feb 17, 2005 by dictionary_girl]

So, it''l be easy for you to prove it. Please do.

As far as the thread topic goes:

I think it's a great idea to make election day a national holiday. This way, most people can vote without having to take off work.

A majority of states already restore voting rights to ex-felons, this would provide for an equal standards, which is good. Why shouldn't you be allowed to vote if you've paid your debt to society?

oh, and paper reciepts for votes are long overdue and provide proof for a recount, if needed. Very good.

second...

Are capable of posting anything other than your usual cocktard troll bait, or is that all you have on your menu?

so to cut the bullshit: democrats want black people to vote.

that's the issue here, everyone knows it. a lot of poor black men are felons, and a lot of powerful white men don't want them voting. this thread, minus the spin, says nothing.

If felons or ex felons have to pay taxes, then they should be allowed to vote. Period. There are plenty of ex-felons who are productive contributing members of society. They work, and they pay taxes and if I were an ex felon and I was expected to pay taxes and not allowed to vote, I'd be pretty pissed off.

To treat all ex felons as if they were somehow incapable of contributing to the democratic process flies in the face of the principles of everything the "neo-cons" think they represent.

I'm not the biggest Hillary fan on the planet, and I doubt most people would describe me as a dem or a liberal, but Hillary is right on this one, and the knee jerk neo con bullshit reaction is just silly, like most knee jerk reactions.

Sorry to vent.



[Edited on Feb 17, 2005 by PsychoMagnet]

I say if someone has been released from prison, then they are considered rehabilitated, and they should be able to vote. I don't give a hoot who they vote for, but let 'em vote.

Agree with Stiles, once they've paid their debt, I see not a problem in the world with permitting them their vote. And a day off for voting, I've thought to be a good idea for some time now.

Chances are, the consensus is probably right and they'd vote Democratic (if they voted at all), but it's a worthy notion to restore them their rights all the same.

Now, if we could just figure out how to sway the "dead people" bloc from the Dems (Mayor Daly! So good to see you again...)

zactly. very well put.

I have never understood why felons cant vote over there.

Its not exactly fair is it?

That's the problem with our laws being made in bunches like this. Some folks who are against the felons voting thing will vote "NO" even though they think the holiday idea is a good one.

I do think Stocks position is funny, but he can rest assured there are some significant constitutional problems with that section of the bill. The fed can dictate the process to ensure a complete and accurate result, but I'm not sure suffrage, absent an overriding constitutional Amendment is actually with their powers.

just what fucking party is stockula for? i can't tell.

She is certainly starting to position herself for at least a test run. I'm still not sure I believe a woman can get elected. It's gonna be very tough the first time through, sad to say.

My brother's a convicted felon. His crime was handing a printed out $20 to a pizza man when he was barely over 18. For that, he shouldn't be able to have a say in the course of this country for the rest of his life?


I'd tell you where you can cram your thoughts on this, but that's obviously where they came from.

When I first heard civil rights weren't automatically restored after you served your sentance I was a bit freaked out.

Leave it to Stock to make a point like that.