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mQx

mqx

Seattle, WA
January 2003

FEB 14, 2005 04:34 PM

Up here in the northwest we are filled in nearly daily about the trials and tribulations of Mary Kay Letoureau, former elementary teacher and student rapist.

Now, at last, she is getting married to her former student/victim.

I'd like to have some sort of witty observation or sociological insite to the whole sorted affair; and we can certainly get into another double standard discussion... but, in reality, I just wanted to share a love story on Valentine's Day.

EndedBen

EndedBen

Grand Rapids, MI
August 2004

FEB 14, 2005 04:38 PM

Good. They have like twenty kids.

RACER_X

RACER_X

Philadelphia, PA
February 2003

FEB 14, 2005 04:43 PM

I worked in Seattle with two of that kids cousins....they seemed to find nothing wrong with it.

Pretty weird that her old man was so in withthe Nixon administration.

surreal

MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

FEB 14, 2005 04:50 PM

This still creeps me the fuck out, regardless of how old they are now. He was TWELVE when they first starting having sex. TWELVE.

Tony_Montana

Tony_Montana

Victoria, BC
February 2004

FEB 14, 2005 04:51 PM

Mqx said:
Now, at last, she is getting married to her former student/victim.



I doubt he sees himself as a victim if he's marrying her.

Desdenova

Desdenova

Seattle, WA
August 2003

FEB 14, 2005 05:00 PM

I'm sure I've mentioned it on the boards before, but she was my sixth grade teacher.

No, I didn't get any.

xgenehawk

xgenehawk

USA
December 2004

FEB 14, 2005 05:29 PM

weird shit ... but I don't think it is going to last ... she is like 40 and he is in his early 20's , do you think he is going to stick with her when she is hitting 50s ..

EndedBen

EndedBen

Grand Rapids, MI
August 2004

FEB 14, 2005 05:32 PM

He stuck with her when she was in prison and the court said don't have sex with her. in fact, he knocked her up a couple of times.



WUV...TWOO WUV!

PeetyMcGee

PeetyMcGee

New York, NY
November 2003

FEB 14, 2005 06:09 PM

This kids need to hang around some married people and then he'll change his mind

pensquare

pensquare

Tustin, CA
April 2003

FEB 14, 2005 06:15 PM

When I was twelve, my grand pappy told me never to touch a girl named after a major city, automobile, or cosmetics brand.

This advice has served me well.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

FEB 14, 2005 06:17 PM

tony5 said:

Mqx said:
Now, at last, she is getting married to her former student/victim.



I doubt he sees himself as a victim if he's marrying her.



Probably not, but the psychological effects of being in this type of relationship throughout his adolescence cannot be discounted.

[Edited on Feb 14, 2005 by Thistle]

mQx

mqx

Seattle, WA
January 2003

FEB 14, 2005 10:26 PM

tony5 said:

Mqx said:
Now, at last, she is getting married to her former student/victim.



I doubt he sees himself as a victim if he's marrying her.




He may not, but legally, he was. Anything else is a long, heated discussion about nature versus law, I guess.

FridgeMagnet

FridgeMagnet

Chicago, IL
November 2004

FEB 14, 2005 10:32 PM

I'd hit it.

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

FEB 14, 2005 10:34 PM

Thistle said:

tony5 said:

Mqx said:
Now, at last, she is getting married to her former student/victim.



I doubt he sees himself as a victim if he's marrying her.



Probably not, but the psychological effects of being in this type of relationship throughout his adolescence cannot be discounted.

[Edited on Feb 14, 2005 by Thistle]



Maybe it didn't effect him psychologically. I think it really depends on the person in a situation like that. Some kids might be eternally messed up, and others would be fine with it.

everybodylies

everybodylies

HOPEFUL

New York, NY

FEB 14, 2005 10:37 PM

PsychoMagnet said:
I'd hit it.


teacher or student surreal

FridgeMagnet

FridgeMagnet

Chicago, IL
November 2004

FEB 14, 2005 10:44 PM

Teacher. I'm not feelin teh buttsex.

aksiokersa

aksiokersa

I'm lost
October 2004

FEB 14, 2005 10:45 PM

Whoa, dude.
Twelve.

I mean...not to offend...but even when I was twelve I didn't find twelve year old boys attractive.

Whatever floats their boats I guess.

But I do agree with Thistle. An adult has all the control in that type of relationship and it would definitely mess with someone to have their life controlled like that for their entire adolescence.

[Edited on Feb 14, 2005 by axiocersa]

ACarr

ACarr

Asheville, NC
November 2004

FEB 14, 2005 10:49 PM

Ummm...Ewww...

JoshXXX

JoshXXX

Northborough, MA
March 2004

FEB 14, 2005 10:57 PM

It must be a total buzzkill to realize that now that he's out of his mom's house, there is still going to be an older woman telling him to clean his room.

Doghouse_Reilly

doghouse_reilly

I'm lost
February 2004

FEB 14, 2005 11:01 PM

Thistle said:

tony5 said:

Mqx said:
Now, at last, she is getting married to her former student/victim.



I doubt he sees himself as a victim if he's marrying her.



Probably not, but the psychological effects of being in this type of relationship throughout his adolescence cannot be discounted.



Who's to say the psychological effects of being in that type of relationship are necessarily bad?

Do we really live in an age of mandatory victimhood?

FrankMask

FrankMask

Saint Paul, MN
June 2003

FEB 15, 2005 12:07 AM

If they can pull it off, more power too them. To date I know a whole lot of unhappy divorced people and few unhappy maried people so I'll take a love story anywhere I can get one.

quasi_sean

quasi_sean

Houston, TX
July 2003

FEB 15, 2005 09:07 AM

Not to be shallow or anything, but if he absolutely felt the need to get with a teacher....the Florida teacher was much hotter.

MistahPrince

MistahPrince

Chicago, IL
February 2005

FEB 15, 2005 09:24 AM

Well, no doubt he was psychologically affected in all this...

But c'mon, how much of a badass was he considered to be in 6th grade?...

tongue

[Edited on Feb 15, 2005 by Sknow]

Snidely_Whiplash

Snidely_Whiplash

New York, NY
September 2004

FEB 15, 2005 03:51 PM

MrStitches said:

Maybe it didn't effect him psychologically. I think it really depends on the person in a situation like that. Some kids might be eternally messed up, and others would be fine with it.


(1) He is thoroughly indoctrinated with a phoney-baloney "love conquors all" mentality, which it would seem leaves little room for practical thought.

(2) He has children with a woman who is diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and who already has four other children by another father.

(3) He's now married to a woman who is diagnosed with bipolar disorder - who has already screwed up & bailed on her first marriage. Don't hold your breath for the second one.

She's pretty fucked up:

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/stories/feature.cfm?instanceid=62227

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/stories/feature.cfm?instanceid=62214


Daily Star

August 8, 2004


…Mother-of-six Mary Kay Letourneau, 42, smuggled out letters bragging of steamy affairs with a male guard and lesbian inmates.

But her young lover Vili Fualaau - who fathered two of her children and is now aged 21 - is still desperate to be with her after her release a few days ago.

Letourneau, of Des Moines, Washington, served seven years in a state prison for her illicit romance with Vili. In one letter from jail she told him about a 23-year-old guard, saying: "I love the way he talks about my body. He's a f***ing sexaholic.

"He was sitting on my back legs behind my butt once, giving me a back massage, then I felt this kiss on the side of my neck. I let him touch me...and more happened that you don't need to know about."

She also described two lesbian relationships. Of one lover she said: "She has broad shoulders and the biggest titties you have ever seen."
…


What can you say? Pussy control. Little boys are easy prey.


From the Today Show

August 6, 2004 Friday

Mr. VILI FUALAAU (Had Sexual Relationship With Teacher When He Was 12 Years Old): More than those words spoken alone. It's--it's like a moving--a nonstop moving thing like air. It's, like, it's forever.

LAUER: When you think about spending time with Mary now--I mean, what would you love to do on the first evening you two get to see each other?

Mr. FUALAAU: I want to go on a boat cruise. I want to go to the Bahamas or something, or Miami. I don't know. Somewhere tropical, really hot. Or maybe somewhere really cold.

LAUER: Do you think it'll be hard to talk after seven years? I mean, so much has happened in both of your lives.

Mr. FUALAAU: I don't think it would. If anything, I would be more talkative when she gets out because I was--I was really happy when she was--when she was out and we were together. I was really happy. And when she was separated from me, I was very down. You know, I didn't want to talk to anybody, I couldn't look anybody in the eye, I couldn't explain myself. Always depressed. I was always depressed.

LAUER: So what you're telling me is you have not been really happy since that short period of time that Mary Kay Letourneau was out of jail before she was sentenced to prison for being with you?

Mr. FUALAAU: Yes.

LAUER: It's been a struggle through this whole time?

Mr. FUALAAU: Yes. Through seven years, but I've--I made it through. I've--I'm surprised I'm still alive.

LAUER: Are you really?

Mr. FUALAAU: Yes.

LAUER: You really thought there were times where...

Mr. FUALAAU: I thought sometimes, you know, like, 'I'm just going to give up, you know? I can't deal with these depressions, emotions anymore, you know.'

…

LAUER: Do you still have a lot of friends from when you were in school during that period when you were 13, 14? I mean, is it possible for you to still connect to those people?

Mr. FUALAAU: Well, I really can't connect to them like how I used to connect to them. I mean, we were, like, just normal kids back then and we did normal stuff. You know, looking at chicks, teasing chicks, teasing other kids, try to be the most popular kid in school, you know?

…

Mr. FUALAAU: I ask myself the same thing all the time. You know, I was 12, she was 32. When I look back at the situation, I'm just like, 'What did she see in me? You know, she's older than I am, she's a teacher, and she's married, has a good life.'

LAUER: Four kids.

Mr. FUALAAU: 'And she has four kids of her own, and I'm 12. I barely even know what my future is.'

LAUER: Or who I am.

Mr. FUALAAU: Or--yeah, or who I am. I believe that I'm not really that good looking so I--I ask myself that all the time, like, 'What's--what's the deal here? Why does she love me, or why does she say she's in love with me?'

LAUER: She said basically you were--you were old beyond your years, wise beyond your years, very strong, very smart, and that there was an instant attraction.

Mr. FUALAAU: I wouldn't say it like that. I mean...

…

Mr. FUALAAU: At first it was really hard for me to believe I was a father. I still wanted to live out my childhood, which I've tried but I still couldn't because it just couldn't happen.

LAUER: Yeah, you were 14 when Audrey was born, right?

Mr. FUALAAU: Right.

LAUER: And then 16 when Alexis was born?

Mr. FUALAAU: Yes.

LAUER: That's a tough adjustment. I mean, how did you deal with it?

Mr. FUALAAU: At home I write little poems. Poems about my life and how I lived it out and what I--what gave me that strive, you know, just to keep pushing forward. And every time I fall, you know, I had to pick myself up and what I did to do those kind of things.

LAUER: Tell me about a couple of times when you fell. I mean, did you have tough times when you thought, 'I'm not going to make it through this'?

Mr. FUALAAU: Yes, I've--I've been there more than I--more than two hands, you know? More than I can count. It's--it's just been crazy.

…

Mr. FUALAAU: And I've heard that so many times. There's people, like, telling me, 'Vili, you're very young, very handsome guy. There's a lot of other girls out there. Don't dwell on this relationship because it's making you sad. I hate to see you sad like this. So, you know, try--try other relationships. Try to see--make yourself happy.' And I have. And other relationships haven't made me happy.

LAUER: Has it affected the way you view other women?

Mr. FUALAAU: Yes, it has. I mean, I...

LAUER: In what way?

Mr. FUALAAU: Well, every girl or woman that I've gone out with were--I've always, like, compared Mary to them. Like, can they stand up to who--who Mary was?

LAUER: And if they're teen-agers, that's like comparing a girl to a woman...

Mr. FUALAAU: Right.

LAUER: ...which has got to be a little difficult for you. Although some people would say...

Mr. FUALAAU: Right.

LAUER: ...that's--that's what you should be after. You should go after a girl.

Mr. FUALAAU: Well, I wanted to be in love and on many different levels. You know, I wanted to bond with them on many different levels, and I couldn't do that with any other girl because I constantly thought about Mary, or they would constantly remind me about Mary. They would bring up the subject, 'So how did it all start?' you know? I'm like, 'Come on.'

LAUER: So you'd be on, like, the second date...

Mr. FUALAAU: Yeah.

LAUER: ...and they'd say, 'Tell me about Mary Kay'?

Mr. FUALAAU: Yeah. It'd be like that. You know, and it just--sometimes it would, like, irritate me because I wanted to start something new. I wanted to see if it could work. But, I guess, you know, it's just inevitable not to work.

LAUER: You have no doubt--even as a 12- and 13-year-old, you had no doubt that this was the relationship that for you was forever?

Mr. FUALAAU: I never really thought I could ever fall in love that young. I didn't know what the feeling was, but I could explain the feeling from, you know--from the adrenaline rush, from the feelings that flowed through my body, and the words that came out of my mouth. Sometimes they sounded kind of corny, at the same time I didn't really care because it was from my heart and it's what was true, or what is still true.


True? In what sense of the word?

[Edited on Feb 15, 2005 by Snidely_Whiplash]

Anuyi

Anuyi

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

FEB 15, 2005 04:14 PM

People can argue that perhaps if he is marrying her there is some sort of connection. But what sort of childhood normalacy did this kid have to base any of his later decisions on? I mean, he's marrying the one women he relates sex too. Not suprising.

I have to say, I don't understand how any psychologically stable/sexual or worthwhile woman could be interested in a twelve year old. I think it said a lot about her and her own adult development.

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