NEWS: Norway to Ban CD Ripping?

GEEK: Norway to Ban CD Ripping?

Apparently Norway's government aren't the biggest iPod fans, 'cause they're trying to stop people from converting their CDs to mp3s.converting their CDs to mp3s.

Or maybe it is a fan of the iPod, as it isn't making mp3s illegal, maybe they're just trying to force people to buy their music online, leading more sales for the iTunes store? Or maybe they're trying to put a completely unenforceable law on the books. Would it be cynical of me to wonder if the politicians involved just don't have a clue what they're talking about, but have somehow equated mp3 to bad things?

god imagine getting pulled over so the cops could "check your ipod". oh no sir, those files aren't drm'd. you're coming with us buddy!

these idiots don't realize that they are making it LESS FUN to buy music, so who's gonna buy the music? You'll have more freedom with the illegal tracks you download then the legal ones you buy and download.

Yes, ALL politicians involved with ALL music copyright laws do have absolutely no idea what the hell they're talking about.

These things support my views on old people, and how they shouldn't be alowed to do certain things, like make decisions they can't comprehend and won't affect them.

The UK's Copyright, Designs and Patents act is clear that you may not copy anything without the copyright holders permission. So, it is unlawful, and maybe illegal, to rip CDs in the UK now.

The UK does not have "Fair Use", it has "Fair Dealing", and converting formats (Copying from CD to MP3) is most certainly not covered by Fair Dealing.

Whether anyone can be arsed to enforce this is another matter.


Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988
The Copyright and Related Rights Regulations 2003

ha! well it's a good thing we don't have a DMCA then, or apple would be in so much trouble for making that software to circumvent cpoyright, you know, that iTunes thing

Damn, this will stop all those Nowriegan cd advances I've been downloading from the Napster... all
-25 of them.

[Edited on Feb 11, 2005 by sadisticmika]

Blaah,

this is nothing new (that proposal has exists since 2003) and it's basically wrong. CD-copy protections are not real protections in the sense of EU copyright directive (protection has to be effective against normal use and "copy protected" CDs play just well in many fault tolerant CD/DVD-players)

If iTunes circumvented copy-protection measures then it would be illegal and they wouldn't be allowed to sell it.

THE LAW

So, the black line trick is now unlawful in the UK.

The SI had to be written to allow temporary copying specifically for online music sellers; that song gets copied from their server over "the internet" to the customer's machine. Anyone machines in the chain between them would have been breaking the law without THIS CLAUSE.

Notice that I don't say what I think of this (stupid) law, I'm just pointing it out.

There is some alarm in the UK because we sometimes "Gold Plate" directives, transforming simple short directives into complicated long law.

One Norwegian journalist said it quite well: If downloading mp3s from the internet is just as illegal as ripping mp3s from legally bought CDs (with DRM), then why bother paying for CDs? The music industry is shooting themselves in the foot.

There are a lot of people who are against this law proposal, and it is being universally ridiculed in the mass media, but we 'have to' pass it because of an EU directive, so it does not look good.