Revolted...

So on my way to Bellingham today to pick up my new shoes, I was listening to some talk radio - just wanted to hear some events, opinions, et cetera.

What I head was shocking, appalling, and frightening.

It was the Rush Limbaugh show, and it went beyond unintelligent propaganda - it was complete crap.

And the thing is, the information the guy filling in was providing wasn't all bad - he was a smart guy with some solid opinions. What was scary was he was taking very select soundclips of a guy sounding foolish (taken in context, he may or may not have - that's debatable) and then he said (to paraphrase between the lines)

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This is what all Liberals and Democrats think. This is how ALL Liberals and Democrats feel. This is the AGENDA of ALL Liberals and Democrats.

ALL Liberals and Democrats feel the USA DESERVED 9/11, and should be punished with a series of more 9/11 style attacks.

ALL Liberals and Democrats hate America.

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I know for a fact that this is entirely untrue.

The statement that the Democratic Senator looked like a fool after chastising Condelza (sp?) Rice for her evasive nature when it came to her original stance on invading Iraq... When in fact, Rice DID stand by and say the reason for attacking Iraq was WMD, and ONLY WMD... And then after none were found, she claimed she never said that, or intended it "that way"

Rice looked like the idiot, in that situation. All the Democratic Senator asked her to do was own up to her own evasive statements, and admit she'd made an error. Rice refused, and made herself a liar at the same time.

Whether or not everything she does is perfect after this, whether her record is outstanding... NOTHING can change the fact that she made some serious claims, and when they didn't pan out - she denied making those claims. She lied. I'm certain she'll be sure not to make that mistake in the future, maybe she IS the right person for the job - but calling her out, and asking her to admit blatant mistakes that were made BY HER on the public record is not being a fool.

I'm of Liberal leanings - not as in the Canadian Liberal government, because they're a bunch of ultra conservative jackasses for the most part - but as in I believe people should have the freedom to do as they wish - be it fall in love and marry someone of the same sex, which does nothing to hurt the "traditional family", be it smoke pot and walk into walls, or be it to sit behind a desk wearing a starched collar, making their hourly wage and feeling superior.

I do not, however, believe that it is EVER right to pidgionhole and entire political leaning (liberal, democrat, republican, conservative, whatever) as being a certain way, or believing certain things. It's goes beyond the level of ignorance I'd expect from the least educated, most biased human being that ever walked the earth - but coming from an apparently educated, coherent, well spoken man, it has the impact of showing the right in the US as the most serious fools to ever walk the earth.

Politics, religion, whatever - there is no black and white, and the sooner these people realize the earth is round, and the media is far from liberal - then maybe some problems will get solved.

This idiot made George Bush sound smart... And while Bush may indeed BE smart, he's never managed to sound it without speaking something someone else wrote.

this is why I cannot listen to talk radio. so often it degrades to a name calling, hate fest. even when the people on are trying to defend views I support (I, too am considered "liberal"),

Mortimer "Rush" Limbaugh is lower than pondscum.

This kind of brainwashing is like when Michael "Savage" Weiner told his listeners that (paraphrasing) "when liberals say 'human rights', they mean gays. When you hear liberals say 'human rights', think of someone who wants to rape your son."

And by the phrase "lower than pondscum", I apologize for any offense pondscum might take for being compared to Mortimer Limbaugh.

Yeah - that's along the same lines as this guy. It's no wonder so many conservative Americans have the false information they do, when they're being schooled and trained by these morons :/

Makes you proud to be human, doesn't it?

More choice Limbaugh quotes:

Wow.

The idiot hosting the show today was "Roger Hedgecock"

Unitl I heard him, I always thought the worst gastrointestinal anomalies came out of the ass...


[Edited on Feb 09, 2005 by Artsitis]

i am a republican... but Rush is a douche-bag. i hate that fuckin' guy.

Can we bring back the days when conservative commentators were serious, polite, soft-spoken East Coast intellectuals, and the liberal commentators were the brash "working class" louts?



[Edited on Feb 09, 2005 by Keith]

I'd hate him too - well, I do, but I'd hate him even if I were a moderate or conservative or republican... he makes everyone in any group he belongs to look bad, by claiming to speak for everyone in those groups :/

[Edited on Feb 09, 2005 by Artsitis]

Rush is despicable, and I'm anything but Republican, but be honest--the Democrats & liberals have their equivalents.

That's Rush for ya. At least that great Canadian band Moxy Fruvous wrote a scathing "tribute to him, "The Greatest Man In America."

EDIT: Stupid typos.

[Edited on Feb 09, 2005 by phobetorzero]

Who? Name one. And I don't mean "some guy on a message board". I mean, somebody else on national TV or radio. Franken is just as partisan, but he's not sexist, racist, or a homophobe. Or a out-and-out liar.


[Edited on Feb 09, 2005 by Keith]

If Mr. Ann Coulter* thinks you're douchey, you've got a problem.

*I mean Stirfry, not Ann Coulter. I know it's a shitty nickname. Ann's gender is kind of ambiguous.

I guess he's finally clear of his Oxycontin addiction...

Michael Moore's got a pretty cavalier attitude toward the truth.

True, but he doesn't lie about anything - he just leaves out details that don't strengthen his case...

This man was lying and spouting generalizations that were so blatantly false, it should have been a B Movie...

But again, not a racist, sexist, or homophobe. Also, doesn't have a daily nationally syndicated prime time talk radio show, or appear regularly on network news shows.

There is that Oscar thing

It's pure shock (shlock), that's all. They say outrageous things to get ratings and to get people talking about them. Hey look, it worked.

Isn't there some sort of law saying you have to either state that something is an opinion, or have factual documentation to back things up?

I know if you say "So and so is a criminal" in Canada, you can be charged with a crime, unless you can back up that so and so really IS a criminal - however, if you qualify that same statement with "I think" or "In my opinion" there is no longer any liability, or possibility of defamation...

That whole show needs a disclaimer along the lines of "We're full of shit, and not going to tell you the truth in any way shape or form" because sadly enough - I know (of) people who actually take this stuff seriously, as gospel truth... When it couldn't be further from it.

Well the "liberal democrats" do have a daily AM talk radio show called Air America with AL fraken and others. Here's a link http://www.airamericaradio.com/

My new favorite word is illiberal.

Not even close, in my opinion.

Al Franken, Michael Moore, et all, might be sensationalistic, true. They might make inflammatory statements, also true.

But the majority of people you are talking about are intelligent, informed individuals who, while extremeists, back up everythignthey say with some form of factual data. The are well-researched in whatever topics they discuss, and they at least a smidgeon of validity to their case, more often than not.

Rush, on the other hand, says NOTHING of worth. His comments are, by and large, little more than personal attacks, blankent stereotypes, thinly-veiled propaganda, and outright lies. Rush does not do his own research, he does not have any credible background to be a political commentator, and is in fact ittle more than song-and-dance man. He's an a personality, an entertainer.

In fact, the only reasonable countepart Rush has, is Howard Stern. They're on the same level, intellectually, and credibly-speaking.