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TakesATrainToCry

TakesATrainToCry

Ann Arbor, MI
October 2004

FEB 06, 2005 09:57 PM

Did anyone else notice the use of U2's Sunday Bloody Sunday in the Superbowl telecast? I'm not exactly offended, but I am surprised that Bono and company would allow this. Any thoughts?

Don't know how many U2/history buffs are out there, so forgive me if this is common knowledge: the song is about the Bloody Sunday of January 30, 1972, when British troops opened fire on a civil rights protest and killed 13 people in Derry, Northern Ireland.

[Edited on Feb 06, 2005 by marcello]

EndedBen

EndedBen

Grand Rapids, MI
August 2004

FEB 06, 2005 10:00 PM

I'd be surprised if they weren't total sell out has-beens, yes.

troglodyte

troglodyte

Victoria, BC
May 2003

FEB 06, 2005 10:01 PM

Why is that in bad tatse?

burstandbloom

burstandbloom

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

FEB 06, 2005 10:04 PM

the song is about a sunday battle
appropriate

not offensive to me

what was offensive were those commercials
the P Diddy Diet Pepsi one was the only one worth a damn

Strfry

Strfry

Cleveland, OH
September 2002

FEB 06, 2005 10:04 PM

who cares?

TakesATrainToCry

TakesATrainToCry

Ann Arbor, MI
October 2004

FEB 06, 2005 10:27 PM

How would Cleveland react if the Browns celebrated QB sacks by playing CSNY's 'Ohio' ?

Maybe not a perfect analogy, but I just hate the way athletes and commentators compare their games to 'war.' So this struck a nerve for me.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

FEB 06, 2005 10:29 PM

I'm pretty sure this song has been played at every Superbowl since it came out... As well as most major sporting events that happen to fall on a Sunday.

Chitin

Chitin

New York, NY
December 2004

FEB 06, 2005 10:29 PM

They do iPod commercials. Of COURSE they allowed it.

Not that artists really have much/any control over where and when their music gets played. It's pretty much out of their hands anyway.

EndedBen

EndedBen

Grand Rapids, MI
August 2004

FEB 06, 2005 10:30 PM

I understand WHY some people may be offended. I'm not. And I'm not shocked at all to hear the u2 song. I'm pretty sure they'd sell to anyone.

Hecubus1

Hecubus1

North Hollywood, CA
December 2004

FEB 06, 2005 10:39 PM

War is IMHO the best U2 album, but then again, I'm an old school U2 fan who thought that Unforgettable Fire was interesting but not the U2 I liked... it was all downhill from there.

Anyway, I found the song oddly appropriate on a superficial level. If I were pretentious (which I am) then I might be insulted if I thought U2 had any semblamce of idealism left in their commercial, sell-out bones. But they don't, so it's no big deal. smile

And after all, we're all hypocrites to some degree or another, but I think U2 does some good charity-wise fairly regularly. No harm, no foul--or penalty flag, I guess.

Baka_Amerikanjin

Baka_Amerikanjin

Seattle, WA
January 2004

FEB 06, 2005 10:59 PM

marcello said:
How would Cleveland react if the Browns celebrated QB sacks by playing CSNY's 'Ohio' ?

Maybe not a perfect analogy, but I just hate the way athletes and commentators compare their games to 'war.' So this struck a nerve for me.



Well, American football has very close ties to war. During the sport's formative years at the end of the 19th century, it was viewed by many as an excellent training ground for values such as leadership and discipline. The military academies felt it was valuable for teaching their cadets how to be officers. In fact football forefather, Walter Camp was responsible for the physical conditioning of most of America's troops during WWI.

MisterGraves

MisterGraves

Portland, OR
November 2003

FEB 06, 2005 11:02 PM

I just want to know what the hell was with MC Hammer starring in TWO different commercials!

HenryTMensch

HenryTMensch

New York, NY
December 2004

FEB 06, 2005 11:02 PM

marcello said:
Did anyone else notice the use of U2's Sunday Bloody Sunday in the Superbowl telecast? I'm not exactly offended, but I am surprised that Bono and company would allow this. Any thoughts?

Don't know how many U2/history buffs are out there, so forgive me if this is common knowledge: the song is about the Bloody Sunday of January 30, 1972, when British troops opened fire on a civil rights protest and killed 13 people in Derry, Northern Ireland.

[Edited on Feb 06, 2005 by marcello]



Bono and the Edge performed it at the opening of Prez Clinton's presidential library, which was a bit strange. Not really appropriate for the occasion...

HenryTMensch

HenryTMensch

New York, NY
December 2004

FEB 06, 2005 11:03 PM

Stirfry said:
who cares?



If it's not worth having a thread about it, in your opinion, isn't it also pointless to come in and point out that it's pointless?

If you don't care then change the channel, dude. But don't pee in everyone elses' Cheerios.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

FEB 06, 2005 11:06 PM

Baka_Amerikanjin said:

marcello said:
How would Cleveland react if the Browns celebrated QB sacks by playing CSNY's 'Ohio' ?

Maybe not a perfect analogy, but I just hate the way athletes and commentators compare their games to 'war.' So this struck a nerve for me.



Well, American football has very close ties to war. During the sport's formative years at the end of the 19th century, it was viewed by many as an excellent training ground for values such as leadership and discipline. The military academies felt it was valuable for teaching their cadets how to be officers. In fact football forefather, Walter Camp was responsible for the physical conditioning of most of America's troops during WWI.



My eating a sandwich earlier "has ties to" and "is largely responsible" for the fact that I'll be taking a shit sometime in the not-to-distant future. That said, they're still not the same thing.

Baka_Amerikanjin

Baka_Amerikanjin

Seattle, WA
January 2004

FEB 06, 2005 11:18 PM

bean said:

Baka_Amerikanjin said:

marcello said:
How would Cleveland react if the Browns celebrated QB sacks by playing CSNY's 'Ohio' ?

Maybe not a perfect analogy, but I just hate the way athletes and commentators compare their games to 'war.' So this struck a nerve for me.



Well, American football has very close ties to war. During the sport's formative years at the end of the 19th century, it was viewed by many as an excellent training ground for values such as leadership and discipline. The military academies felt it was valuable for teaching their cadets how to be officers. In fact football forefather, Walter Camp was responsible for the physical conditioning of most of America's troops during WWI.



My eating a sandwich earlier "has ties to" and "is largely responsible" for the fact that I'll be taking a shit sometime in the not-to-distant future. That said, they're still not the same thing.



And Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass is neither leaves nor grass, but it is a fitting metaphor which evokes certain images/feelings, just as the metaphor of war does when applied to football.

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

FEB 06, 2005 11:48 PM

Baka_Amerikanjin said:
And Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass is neither leaves nor grass, but it is a fitting metaphor which evokes certain images/feelings, just as the metaphor of war does when applied to football.



You're reaching. Football may well be good for teaching small-group strategy and team cohesiveness, but it has remarkably little to do with war as we know it.

When they have live fire from the stands at the superbowl, i'll grant you the analogy.

biggrin

Clairevoyance

Clairevoyance

Tallahassee, FL
July 2004

FEB 06, 2005 11:57 PM

Stirfry said:
who cares?


agreed

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

FEB 07, 2005 12:08 AM

Dieselgirl said:

Stirfry said:
who cares?


agreed



*ahem*

HenryTMensch said:

If it's not worth having a thread about it, in your opinion, isn't it also pointless to come in and point out that it's pointless?

If you don't care then change the channel, dude. But don't pee in everyone elses' Cheerios.


Samebeat

Samebeat

USA
September 2003

FEB 07, 2005 12:20 AM

I noticed that and also wondered aloud to my girlfriend if U2 still owned the rights to the song. I thought it was silly and a little inappropriate. Kind of feel the same way about that as all these assholes driving around playing army in their Hummers with "freedom is free" magnets on the back. It trivializes the real sacrifices made by people and their families.

killingjoker

killingjoker

Austin, TX
January 2005

FEB 07, 2005 12:25 AM

Considering U2 performed at the SuperBowl in 2002, I dont think they really care.

Yahoo News

[Edited on Feb 07, 2005 by killingjoker]

SoEffinHappy

SoEffinHappy

Philadelphia, PA
April 2003

FEB 07, 2005 01:01 AM

Stiles said:
But don't pee in everyone elses' Cheerios.



So THAT'S why they tasted funny...

porkmaster5000

porkmaster5000

Idleyld Park, OR
August 2004

FEB 07, 2005 01:17 AM

Stiles said:

Baka_Amerikanjin said:
And Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass is neither leaves nor grass, but it is a fitting metaphor which evokes certain images/feelings, just as the metaphor of war does when applied to football.



You're reaching. Football may well be good for teaching small-group strategy and team cohesiveness, but it has remarkably little to do with war as we know it.

When they have live fire from the stands at the superbowl, i'll grant you the analogy.

biggrin


Really seems to fall right in line attack and defend
one team invades a nother teams territory and is
rewarded for it and at the end of the game the side with the
most victories win the most valuable prize. There are also
many injureys many that are very serious and the rich decision
makers pimp and ride there work horses right into fame that they
earned for having deaper pocket books than there opponit .
It may be a tiny bit reaching, but not that far

Baka_Amerikanjin

Baka_Amerikanjin

Seattle, WA
January 2004

FEB 07, 2005 02:10 AM

Stiles said:

Baka_Amerikanjin said:
And Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass is neither leaves nor grass, but it is a fitting metaphor which evokes certain images/feelings, just as the metaphor of war does when applied to football.



You're reaching. Football may well be good for teaching small-group strategy and team cohesiveness, but it has remarkably little to do with war as we know it.

When they have live fire from the stands at the superbowl, i'll grant you the analogy.

biggrin



I have never tried to say that football was the same as war. My first statement was intended to bring up some examples of where the origin of this common analogy came from. It still works as a metaphor being that it is a physical conflict of two sides with certain rules of engagement and a set goal that requires discipline, perseverence, the ability to stay cool under pressure, effective leadership and communication in order to succeed. If they recieved live fire at a football game, it would actually be war. It would no longer be a metaphor. Now war as it is understood today in The War on Terror is more analogous to Calvinball perhaps.

[Edited on Feb 07, 2005 by Baka_Amerikanjin]

Koenigsegg

Koenigsegg

I'm lost
July 2004

FEB 07, 2005 02:24 AM

Dieselgirl said:

Stirfry said:
who cares?


agreed



agreed

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