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almostfamous

almostfamous

NEWSWIRE

United Kingdom

FEB 04, 2005 05:57 PM

Just not on Earth. Research is suggesting that we could turn Mars into a hospitable environment by melting its polar ice caps.

Synthetic fluorine-based gases could produce global warming on Mars while also creating an atmosphere conducive to life, say scientists at the NASA Ames Research Centre, California, US.

Conditions on Mars are currently inhospitable for advanced life. Temperatures on the Red Planet currently dip down to -120°C at night near the poles. And the atmospheric pressure on Mars is much less than on Earth as its atmosphere is thinner and its gravity lower.

In order to support life, scientists have proposed transforming Mars into an Earth-like planet in a process called terraforming. And a crucial component of this would be to warm up the planet.

The study found four fluorine-based gases that could be made of elements abundant on the Martian surface. Fluorine excels at absorbing thermal energy. In addition, the gas does not destroy ozone, unlike the greenhouse gases bromine and chlorine.


Not everyone thinks it's a good idea though...

"In principle, it's something which is possible but which I would not advocate," says Andrew Coates at the University College London, UK. He works on the Mars Express spacecraft's ASPERA instrument, which analyses the interaction between the solar wind and Mars's atmosphere. "It's the ultimate in cosmic vandalism; at least until we completely understand the conditions for past or present life on Mars, and we are 100% sure that none is there now."


The argument seems a little moot though, as it would take hundreds, if not thousands, of years. They might need to work on a solution to our own problem with greenhouse gasses first, or there's going to be nobody left to do the terraforming.

Crim

Crim

HOPEFUL

Portland, OR

FEB 04, 2005 08:11 PM

venomkid

venomkid

I'm lost
January 2003

FEB 04, 2005 08:16 PM

GEET YOUAH AAHHSS TO MUAAHHS

_El_Zilcho_

_El_Zilcho_

Framingham, MA
April 2003

FEB 04, 2005 08:20 PM

Aww, Kuato's been posted... all I can do is post the 3 boobed chick...

Sivart

Sivart

Saskatoon, SK
June 2004

FEB 04, 2005 08:47 PM

the whole problem with terraforming mars is that it's too small to support a thick enough atmosphere to support life as we know it. the only real way to make terraforming mars viable would be to somehow make it denser.

Beatnik

Beatnik

Venice, CA
August 2003

FEB 04, 2005 08:47 PM

YAY! Lets ruin other planets too!!!!

ralenn

ralenn

Denver, CO
July 2003

FEB 04, 2005 09:08 PM

Oh man, another use for this image in less than a week?



Dr_Zoidberg

Dr_Zoidberg

Raymore, MO
June 2004

FEB 04, 2005 09:12 PM

Well, the polar ice caps shrink and grow through the year, and Mars is still the way it is. Sounds kinda fishy to me...

Seriously though, we have fucked up one planet. Do we have the right to fuck up more, let alone one?

Kaela

Kaela

Canada
April 2004

FEB 04, 2005 10:19 PM

This article makes me sad. I'm just glad I won't be around to see it if/when it happens.

xgenehawk

xgenehawk

USA
December 2004

FEB 04, 2005 10:28 PM

cool, finally we can solve this overpopulation problem here on Earth ...

TheRedBaron

TheRedBaron

Cambridge, MA
November 2003

FEB 04, 2005 11:31 PM

almostfamous said:
A number of things....



Isnt this the plot of the second star trek movie?


[Edited on Feb 05, 2005 by TheRedBaron]

Dr_Zoidberg

Dr_Zoidberg

Raymore, MO
June 2004

FEB 04, 2005 11:36 PM

phobetorzero said:
Aww, Kuato's been posted... all I can do is post the 3 boobed chick...



Is this what you wanted?

TheRevolutionary

TheRevolutionary

San Diego, CA
June 2004

FEB 04, 2005 11:39 PM

this is a neat idea!! It would be tropical paradise. mangos, melons mmmmm. we all could just be lovers and eat from the trees. the cool waters that we would swim would be crystal clear. and all the sweet reggae music that sounds sublime.


tommy fucking riot

Admiral_Pants

Admiral_Pants

Austin, TX
May 2004

FEB 05, 2005 12:06 AM

I'm still pissed I don't have a flying car, but this would take some of the sting away.

clintron

clintron

Portsmouth, NH
September 2003

FEB 05, 2005 12:12 AM

Cool. Now let's go drill for oil in the ANWR!

superstringboy

superstringboy

Salinas, CA
October 2004

FEB 05, 2005 01:11 AM

And my news article about something relevant, wasn't posted.

This is like, 30 year old news.

c'mon, editors? what the hell?

superstringboy

superstringboy

Salinas, CA
October 2004

FEB 05, 2005 01:13 AM

by the way. read the mars trilogy for actual relevant social discourse and scientific theory on how this actually works.

even if it is speeded up 1000% for plot purposes.

great books, if topics like this interest you.

Author: Kim Stanley Robinson
Books: Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars.

Alot more thought provoking than total recall, kids.

JoshXXX

JoshXXX

Northborough, MA
March 2004

FEB 05, 2005 02:06 AM

Dr_Zoidberg said:

phobetorzero said:
Aww, Kuato's been posted... all I can do is post the 3 boobed chick...



Is this what you wanted?



You know, one of those is paper mache/

Dr_Zoidberg

Dr_Zoidberg

Raymore, MO
June 2004

FEB 05, 2005 03:32 AM

JoshXXX said:

Dr_Zoidberg said:

phobetorzero said:
Aww, Kuato's been posted... all I can do is post the 3 boobed chick...



Is this what you wanted?



You know, one of those is paper mache/


Yes, but which one? wink

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

FEB 05, 2005 04:41 AM

superstringboy said:
And my news article about something relevant, wasn't posted.

This is like, 30 year old news.

c'mon, editors? what the hell?


This news-item is about an article in the New Scientist from the 4th Feb, which is itself a report about an article from another journal. The NS piece isn't discussing random sf ideas, it's discussing scientific modelling of greenhouse gases, specifically octafluoropropane (C3F8). This is relevant, it is interesting to me.


How To Get a News Article Accepted has some useful hints and tips for people wishing to write news items.

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

FEB 05, 2005 04:48 AM

I don't think terraforming Mars is a good idea. I totally think Moon bases would be cool though.

Maybe, once they've worked out whether there is (or has been) life on Mars it'd be cool to send a few people up there.

llouys

llouys

Brazil
August 2003

FEB 05, 2005 06:31 AM

details here.

and only 3 books long!

theseeman

theseeman

Asheville, NC
December 2002

FEB 05, 2005 09:19 AM

I'm all for Mars settlement but part of me belives that we would go to war with said settlements after a time. maybe not but as soon as they became self reliant and we told them to make plastic lips-

perhaps I have consumed to much sci fi in my life.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

FEB 05, 2005 11:01 AM

Yeah, God forbid we ruin the ecosystem of a lifeless red rock. whatever

mrndac

mrndac

Groton, CT
January 2005

FEB 05, 2005 01:12 PM

Cigarette said:
Yeah, God forbid we ruin the ecosystem of a lifeless red rock. whatever



You took the words right out of my head. What exactly are we worried about destroying?

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