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Pauillac

Pauillac

Canada
April 2003

JAN 29, 2005 07:26 AM

Last night the CBC's Fifth Estate aired a good show which examined the rise of the Conservative political commentator in the US. It contained interviews and film clips of all the usual suspects, but a segment with Ann Coulter was particularily amusing.

Regretably, I have been unable to find a clip or transcript, but it went something like this:

Coulter: Canada and the US used to be friends and support each other;
Canada supported the US by sending troops to Vietnam - what's the
difference between Vietnam and Iraq?

Host: Actually, Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam.

Coulter: You're wrong - they did.

Host: No, Canada fought along side the US in WW2, and the Korean War,
but not in Vietnam.

Coulter: I think you are wrong.

Host: Nope, we sat that one out.

Coulter: I'm sure you are wrong; I'll get back to you on that.

It was amazing - she had her facts completely wrong but her natural instinct was to lie her way out of it 9this assumes that the possibility that she might be wrong ever even entered into her consciousness).

For the record - I'm aware that some Canadians fought in Vietnam in American uniforms. Dual citizens who chose to join the US Army, Marines, etc.
The Canadian Armed Forces were not, however, involved. This is clearly what Coulter was suggesting.

waldo

waldo

I'm lost
June 2004

JAN 29, 2005 08:17 AM

She's probably getting confused with Australia, which did send troops to Vietnam.

Mind you, "all you former British colonies look alike to me" shouldn't really cut it for modern political commentators.

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

JAN 29, 2005 08:21 AM

Yeah, I bet she gets right back to them on that. tongue

Why did all those Americans go to Canada to avoid the draft if they were sending troops there anyway? tongue tongue tongue

She's a freak-show, and an utter waste of breath to discuss. Conservatives should tell her to just shut the fuck up.

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

JAN 29, 2005 08:21 AM

If she's going to re-write history...could she add something about her father wearing a condom the night she was conceived? Or at the very least...re-write her part to be an actual femals, not a Vegas female impersonator.

venomkid

venomkid

I'm lost
January 2003

JAN 29, 2005 08:22 AM

Ann Coulter is a clown.

Pauillac

Pauillac

Canada
April 2003

JAN 29, 2005 08:28 AM

waldo said:
She's probably getting confused with Australia, which did send troops to Vietnam.

Mind you, "all you former British colonies look alike to me" shouldn't really cut it for modern political commentators.



The interviewer made the same point about Australia - but she wasn't swayed from the rightness of her belief.
smile

waldo

waldo

I'm lost
June 2004

JAN 29, 2005 08:53 AM

Pauillac said:

waldo said:
She's probably getting confused with Australia, which did send troops to Vietnam.

Mind you, "all you former British colonies look alike to me" shouldn't really cut it for modern political commentators.



The interviewer made the same point about Australia - but she wasn't swayed from the rightness of her belief.
smile



Well, no, from what I've heard about her she wouldn't be. Even if she had been, it'd only expose her as ignorant (as well as biased and stupid).

Mullen

Mullen

San Diego, CA
April 2003

JAN 29, 2005 08:57 AM

It's pretty amazing that someone like her would say that Canada sent troops to Vietnam. Since EVERYONE knows that Canada did not send troops. You think she would know the difference between Australia and Canada.

SYH

SYH

Redford, MI
February 2003

JAN 29, 2005 09:42 AM

Hmm...let's think here.

Vietnam throws the US Selective Service into gear.

Draft-dodgers flee to Canada.

Now, had Canada actually participated in that particular police action, wouldn't they have sent the draft-dodgers instead? wink

HenryTMensch

HenryTMensch

New York, NY
December 2004

JAN 29, 2005 09:55 AM

I saw ann coulter once at JFK - this was a few months ago, I think in October. She was truly frightening and talking a mile a minute on her cellphone about how much she hates anderson cooper...

boonfark

boonfark

Vatican City
January 2003

JAN 29, 2005 10:34 AM

Cash said:
If she's going to re-write history...could she add something about her father wearing a condom the night she was conceived?



Right on the money, Cash. This bitch shoulda stayed in Daddy's resevoir tip.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

JAN 29, 2005 10:35 AM

Ann Coulter makes me feel better about life simply because I'm not her.

Strfry

Strfry

Cleveland, OH
September 2002

JAN 29, 2005 10:37 AM

she WAS wrong. that being said...

LYING is not the same thing as saying "i think you are wrong"

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

JAN 29, 2005 10:56 AM

She was thinking of Australia.

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

JAN 29, 2005 11:08 AM

stockula said:
She was thinking of Australia.



She was given the opportunity to say that, but she chose not to.

She's a screeching harpy with nothing of value to say to anyone.

Strfry

Strfry

Cleveland, OH
September 2002

JAN 29, 2005 11:11 AM

i keep asking this question, but i never get an answer....


is there such a thing as "Canadian Armed Forces"?

googused

googused

Portland, OR
OLD SKOOL

JAN 29, 2005 11:14 AM

O'Reilly had the full spin going last night, calling the CBC a tool of the left wing Canadian government and coddling Rachel Marsden like she'd been plied with roofies and date raped by the McKenzie Brothers.

Poor Faux News - they just can't get a break. frown

And here's the lowdown on Canadian involvement in Vietnam.

http://www.vwam.com/vets/canadians.html


Although not directly involved in the Vietnam War, Canada was part of the International Control Commission (ICC) set up by the Geneva Conference in 1954. "Unlike Hungry and Poland, which supported North Vietnam," writes Colonel Harry G. Summers, Jr., in his Vietnam War Almanac, "Canada attempted to remain impartial. However, it provided economic assistance to South Vietnam." As a result of the Paris Peace Accords of 1973, the ICC was superseded by the International Commission of Control and Supervision (ICCS). Canada and Poland remained members, but India was replaced by Indonesia. "When it became apparent that the North Vietnamese had no intention of living up to the accords," says Summers, "Canada withdrew on July 31, 1973 and was replaced by Iran."

Although pressured by U.S. President Lyndon Johnson to become part of the "Free World Military Forces" (Australia, New Zealand, the Republic of Korea, the Republic of the Philippines, Taiwan and the Kingdom of Thailand) which provided combat troops to aid South Vietnam, the Canadian cabinet believed that because of its ICC membership Canada had to remain its impartiality.

But while Canada as a nation was not involved, Canadians themselves formed the largest foreign contingent in the U.S. military during the Vietnam era. Some estimate that their numbers far suppressed the more than 30,000 Americans draft dodgers who fled to Canada to avoid military service during the war. While exact numbers are impossible to obtain, from my work as a military historian with the Canadian War Museum, I estimate that of the many thousands who served in the U.S. Vietnam-era military, some 12,000 Canadians actually served in Vietnam itself.

This intermingling of forces was not a new phenomenon. Since the American Civil War, Canadians have served in the U.S. military and, over the years 40 have won the Medal of Honor, America's highest military award. In the Spanish American War, for example, two brothers from Nova Scotia, Willard and Harry Miller, won the Medal of Honor for conspicuous bravery above and beyond the call of duty.

Some Canadians also served in the American forces during both world wars and the Korean War. Conversely, over 35,000 Americans joined the Canadian Army during World War 1 (recall that Canada was fighting the war from 1914 to 1917 before America became involved).

Again, in World War II, some 30,000 Americans, encouraged by such war movies as Captain of the Clouds, joined the Canadian forces during the period 1939 to 1941 while the United States was still neutral.

Thus, when the Vietnam War broke out, it was not unusual that Canadians would join, or allow themselves to be drafted into, the American military



[Edited on Jan 29, 2005 by googuse]

googused

googused

Portland, OR
OLD SKOOL

JAN 29, 2005 11:19 AM

Stirfry said:
i keep asking this question, but i never get an answer....


is there such a thing as "Canadian Armed Forces"?



Of course there is.

I linked directly to the English page, so as not to throw you in a tizzy over having the French language offend your pure, steely, flag-reflecting American eyes.

NA_Mike

NA_Mike

Sao Tome And Principe
November 2004

JAN 29, 2005 11:23 AM

venomkid said:
Ann Coulter is a clown.




I totally agree


Strfry

Strfry

Cleveland, OH
September 2002

JAN 29, 2005 11:24 AM

googuse said:

Stirfry said:
i keep asking this question, but i never get an answer....


is there such a thing as "Canadian Armed Forces"?



Of course there is.

I linked directly to the English page, so as not to throw you in a tizzy over having the French language offend your pure, steely, flag-reflecting American eyes.




yeah, because that was obviously a serious question... surreal whatever

i am not offended by it... i just may NOT BE ABLE TO READ IT. it being a forign launguage and all.

relax, man. i love America Jr. i was just kidding. wink

Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

JAN 29, 2005 11:27 AM

NA_Mike said:

venomkid said:
Ann Coulter is a clown.




I totally agree



Is she even relevant anymore? I mean, President Bush won the election so they don't really need her to spew her insane ranting anymore.

PerilSensitive

PerilSensitive

Houston, TX
March 2003

JAN 29, 2005 11:32 AM

I think she's hot. Insane women turn me on.

AndrewB

AndrewB

Victoria, BC
August 2003

JAN 29, 2005 11:33 AM

I like how many liberals and conservatives can unite in their dislike for her smile

llouys

llouys

Brazil
August 2003

JAN 29, 2005 11:34 AM

unperson said:
I like how many liberals and conservatives can unite in their dislike for her smile



Finally, something they can agree on.

sadisticmika

sadisticmika

I'm lost
July 2004

JAN 29, 2005 12:52 PM

It makes Coulter far more money to outrage then she could ever possibly make, attempting to make a cconvincing argument.

[Edited on Jan 29, 2005 by sadisticmika]

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