datsun said:
The people who are saying we should put our passwords in our wills seem to be forgetting that this is a soldier. He was probably very young (and would therefore likely consider himself invincible) and would be unlikely to have a will.

Nope, sorry. Every deploying member of the US military is given express instructions to make a will and put their affairs in order before they deploy. They even help you do it.

Young adults may consider themselves invincible, but the US military sure as hell doesn't see them that way.

Hawks

Belleville, IL

December 2003

DEC 22, 2004 06:01 PM

Shalome said:

You are absolutely correct. They were called return to sender packets. It was not only wills, but information for loved ones on what to do, and how to deal with "accounts", and the normal day to day things left behind.

Phoebus

Italy

OLD SKOOL

DEC 22, 2004 09:50 PM

Nope, sorry. Every deploying member of the US military is given express instructions to make a will and put their affairs in order before they deploy. They even help you do it.

True, but e-mail (or mundane mail, for that matter) has never been covered in any deployment-related will appointment I've ever had.

I can name at least two Air Force Bases that don't deal with those things. I'm not saying that this is right and proper, but it is what's happening.

All I'm saying (where this specific matter is concerned) is that no agreement or contract can, or should be, applied to every situation out there. While I'd be very leery of a government organization wanting access to a diceased person's intimate (or not) correspondence, I think a family should have the opportunity to read the last words written for them by their child. It shouldn't be that big a deal for Yahoo to see what portions of said deceased servicemember's correspondence was intended for his or her family if the kin ask for it through proper channels, and release it to them as appropriate.

[Edited on Dec 23, 2004 by Phoebus]

BROKENsk8board

Germany

May 2004

DEC 23, 2004 09:34 AM

I can't believe this, your decision in this matter disturbs me as a solider. A man goes and dies for his country, and his parents would like to have everything that is his to remember him by, and you deny them that simple request. I believe by law if his parents have the power of attorney, they would be allowed access to everything that is his by law. As a soilder I feel that you are not worthy of my patronage so I am termaniting all my accounts and messenger services and encouraging all my family members and fellow military buddies to do so as well. If ou feel you need to write me, you have my E-mail address.

I wrote this to yahoo and I will never use yahoo again..

XOXO
-Sgt. Christian A. Libecki

Corruptive

San Jose, CA

February 2004

DEC 26, 2004 06:16 AM

lostarchitect said:

Warhawk said:
I doubt very seriously he was using "his" computer, so yes, he more than likely didn't archive his emails. If there was something that he wanted them to know about, why would he of not emailed them. I feel for the family, but they do not have any claims to the gentlemans yahoo account. They might have better luck contacting friends and other family members that he did email, who might be willing to pass along what he wrote them. This isn't about protecting corporate interests over the needs of a grieving family. It's holding to the agreement that was entered when he signed up for a yahoo account. If it was something he wanted them to have he would of given the information to someone to pass along, in the event that something happened to him.

so, wait. are you saying that you don't consider the man's email his intellectual property? if you write a song, that's your property. if you write a book, the same. if you write a letter, yes.

but not an email?

give me a break. if yahoo doesn't want anyone accessing the account, they can print the emails out and send them to the family. the man's heirs own their contents, even if they don't own the account.

Same with my bank account? o_O

It's the principle of it -- My secrets and privacy are my secrets and privacy. If it's not given to you by me when I die (obviously in designated will, or otherwise), then it's not for you to recieve.

Done and done.

[Edited on Dec 26, 2004 by Corruptive]

Sethy

United Kingdom

April 2003

DEC 26, 2004 06:39 AM

"I want to be able to remember him in his words. I know he thought he was doing what he needed to do. I want to have that for the future," John Ellsworth, Justin's father, told The Detroit News for a Tuesday story. "It's the last thing I have of my son."

Yeah id be thrilled, the last thing my family remembers of me is:

Then I heard that you "met" Jaymie...well if by "meeting" her you mean performing sexual acts on her!!!!!!!! It was...to say the least disheartening.

And here i was thinking you were an innocent guy...that maybe you were a sweet person....i was wrong.

Guess it means I hate to update my last will and testimant to say 'fuck off, you get what i leave you and no more... nosey bastards'

mistressmissy

Grand Rapids, MI

March 2003

DEC 26, 2004 07:21 AM

oh man
i started an online journal so my mom WOULDNT be able to read it
i was so lucky she doesn't know how to use a computer
i was so sick of her reading my diary and then grounding me over the things she read!
it would be pretty bad if after i died they decided to read all my online things. it wouldn't make them think very well of me i can tell you that.

randomcharacters

I'm lost

August 2004

DEC 26, 2004 07:42 AM

lostarchitect said:
i mean, come on guys. they're going to get your fucking COMPUTER. how much smut do you have on there? don't worry about it. you think that when grandpa died they didn't see that nasty butt sex porn he kept squirrled away in the bottom of his closet? people are going to see things you kept secret when you die. end of story. get over it.

most people's familes aren't bright enough to get past the login screen that asks for your password.

99% of the time if they can't get in they'll bring it to a computer shop, have the HD wiped and the OS reinstalled.

...now the CD/DVD backups of your pr0n on the other hand...

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