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almostfamous

almostfamous

NEWSWIRE

United Kingdom

NOV 29, 2004 04:11 PM

In a bizarre move, the iTunes music store is refusing to sell the charity single "Do They Know It's Christmas" by Band Aid 20, because the charity's organisers won't let them sell it at a discount.

While the song is available from other digital music suppliers for £1.49, Apple told the Band Aid Trust that it was unwilling to offer the song for more than the 79p it usually charges for all other singles, reports on the UK press claimed last week.

The Band Aid 20 CD goes on sale in shops today. Since the vast majority of copies of the song are likely to be purchased this way, rather than as a download, Apple's apparent refusal to up asking price for this one single seems unlikely to hinder the record's charitable aims.

Reports last week suggested 10,000 copies of the song had been downloaded - just one per cent of the number of Band Aid 20 CDs said to be shipping into the UK retail channel today.

As of last Wednesday, the track had failed to enter the UK official download music chart above fifth place.

For punters who do want to download a copy of the song, it's available through most other online services, such as Napster, MyCokeMusic, Sony Connect and so on, not to mention the Trust's own download site, bandaid20.com.


Can someone explain the logic of that? It certainly isn't a technical issue, as the store sells a number of audiobooks at prices other than 79p, so it is possible to charge something other than the standard price. I know nobody wants to let the record companies price fix, but...it's a charity single.

IDGAS

IDGAS

Jackson Heights, NY
March 2004

NOV 29, 2004 04:18 PM

Try to remember IDGAS' first rule:
{p} are assholes where {p} describes everything associated with people.


[Edited on Nov 29, 2004 by IDGAS]

Aaron

Aaron

Shakopee, MN
July 2004

NOV 29, 2004 04:20 PM

Does Apple, perhaps?

imagoldfish

imagoldfish

Chicago, IL
April 2003

NOV 29, 2004 04:24 PM

I think the only fair conclusion is that Apple wants children to starve. Especially because that scrap of information you've given us offers absolutely no explanation of their decision, and Apple has yet to comment. I mean honestly, what else could it be?

almostfamous

almostfamous

NEWSWIRE

United Kingdom

NOV 29, 2004 04:28 PM

imagoldfish said:
I think the only fair conclusion is that Apple wants children to starve. Especially because that scrap of information you've given us offers absolutely no explanation of their decision, and Apple has yet to comment. I mean honestly, what else could it be?



indeed, that's why i offered the explanation as cold hard fact. i didn't pose it as a question or anything.

guinnevere

guinnevere

Dallas, TX
July 2004

NOV 29, 2004 04:28 PM

does apple want kids to starve?

RubberSoul

RubberSoul

Los Angeles, CA
February 2003

NOV 29, 2004 04:31 PM

Starving children are good for business. I'm pretty sure I learned that in business school.

almostfamous

almostfamous

NEWSWIRE

United Kingdom

NOV 29, 2004 04:32 PM

AaronB said:
Does Apple, perhaps?



yeah, good call blush

lostarchitect

lostarchitect

Brooklyn, NY
January 2004

NOV 29, 2004 04:33 PM

sounds like a dumb decision about two or three levels down from steve jobs. i bet steve's pissed.

imagoldfish

imagoldfish

Chicago, IL
April 2003

NOV 29, 2004 04:34 PM

Granted, it's in the form of a question, but by asking it, and especially by making it the thread title, you start the discussion from that (rather hysterical) point. Instead of saying, wow, wierd that Apple would do this, I wonder why they did, or, Does anyone understand why Apple did this? You skip right to the conclusion, which puts anyone who may disagree with you on the defensive from the start. I have no personal attachment to this issue; I have no idea why they don't want to sell it, nor do I give a shit, but if I did, and I felt there was a valid reason for Apple's actions, I would have to start by defending them, and myself, because of the tone of the post.

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

NOV 29, 2004 04:34 PM

Apple is well known for having *terrible* corporate communication.

If you have a sub to FT you could read Taking off the Shine which makes interesting reading.

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

NOV 29, 2004 04:38 PM

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[Edited on Nov 30, 2004 by demetrius_z]

imagoldfish

imagoldfish

Chicago, IL
April 2003

NOV 29, 2004 04:41 PM

I apologize for my snarky post; I just get irritated when "news" comes with built in commentary. But I'm overreacting. Your commentary was in fact pointed towards asking if anyone had ideas about why Apple chose to act in this way, though in my defense, it's plenty clear what you think of the issue. Headlines are there to grab attention, it's unfortunate that they also end up being the starting out point of your post, thus gearing one towards a specific reading. But I guess these news threads are more to start discussions than actually report news anyways.
Sorry, I'm an asshole.

almostfamous

almostfamous

NEWSWIRE

United Kingdom

NOV 29, 2004 04:43 PM

what she said ^

though, really, what i thought of it was it was a bizarre thing to do with no logical explanation.
just to be clear i LOVE apple.
this however, is dumb.

[Edited on Nov 30, 2004 by almostfamous]

freshprncebelair

freshprncebelair

Ellicott City, MD
June 2004

NOV 29, 2004 04:46 PM

lostarchitect said:
sounds like a dumb decision about two or three levels down from steve jobs. i bet steve's pissed.



Are you kidding? Steve Jobs has one of the biggest egos in IT. He will not budge, simply because of the principle of it. Im sure the decision was made a couple levels down, but Steve will refuse to violate the sanctity of his iTMS.

lostarchitect

lostarchitect

Brooklyn, NY
January 2004

NOV 29, 2004 04:46 PM

imagoldfish said:
But I guess these news threads are more to start discussions than actually report news anyways.




exactly.

they pretty much always come with commentary.. remember, everyone, this is a discussion board, not cnn.com. biggrin

lostarchitect

lostarchitect

Brooklyn, NY
January 2004

NOV 29, 2004 04:47 PM

skankzor said:

lostarchitect said:
sounds like a dumb decision about two or three levels down from steve jobs. i bet steve's pissed.



Are you kidding? Steve Jobs has one of the biggest egos in IT. He will not budge, simply because of the principle of it. Im sure the decision was made a couple levels down, but Steve will refuse to violate the sanctity of his iTMS.




are you sure about that? jobs seems like the kind of CEO who, when he fucks up, apologizes, fixes it, and moves on.

Ghostdad

Ghostdad

Pacifica, CA
January 2004

NOV 29, 2004 04:50 PM

Why do Apple want to does such a thing?

flaneur

flaneur

United Kingdom
January 2003

NOV 29, 2004 04:54 PM

lostarchitect said:
are you sure about that? jobs seems like the kind of CEO who, when he fucks up, apologizes, fixes it, and moves on.



Comedy GOLD!

almostfamous

almostfamous

NEWSWIRE

United Kingdom

NOV 29, 2004 05:02 PM

AaronB said:
Does Apple, perhaps?


oops point taken.

guinnevere said:
does apple want kids to starve?


got it the first time, but thanks, i'm gonna change it.

DiamondGeezer said:
Why do Apple want to does such a thing?


welcome

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

NOV 29, 2004 05:06 PM

almostfamous said:

AaronB said:
Does Apple, perhaps?


yeah, good call blush


DiamondGeezer said:
Why do Apple want to does such a thing?


What? almostfamous is -I think- in the UK where we are relaxed with our singular and plural forms.
Apple could be singular or plural, and over here we're happy to use either.
ask oxford

Of course, I've been on the gin so maybe I'm wrong, eh?

almostfamous

almostfamous

NEWSWIRE

United Kingdom

NOV 29, 2004 05:14 PM

demetrius_z said:

almostfamous said:

AaronB said:
Does Apple, perhaps?


yeah, good call blush


DiamondGeezer said:
Why do Apple want to does such a thing?


What? almostfamous is -I think- in the UK where we are relaxed with our singular and plural forms.
Apple could be singular or plural, and over here we're happy to use either.
ask oxford

Of course, I've been on the gin so maybe I'm wrong, eh?



SO THERE!

i have to say, i do try to americanize my newswire posts, because the majority of the readership is american (i'll use things like mom instead of mum) but i'm not perfect (and sometimes i don't care)
just remember american is my second language wink

Gwendolyn

Gwendolyn

SUICIDEGIRL

Indiana, USA

NOV 29, 2004 05:18 PM

imagoldfish said:
I just get irritated when "news" comes with built in commentary. But I'm overreacting. Your commentary was in fact pointed towards asking if anyone had ideas about why Apple chose to act in this way, though in my defense, it's plenty clear what you think of the issue. Headlines are there to grab attention, it's unfortunate that they also end up being the starting out point of your post, thus gearing one towards a specific reading.



Our news always comes with built-in commentary, if you don't like it, don't read it.

The headlines are to grab attention and get people talking, as you said-- and this one is doing just that.

Sean

Sean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

NOV 29, 2004 05:41 PM

I think apple made the right decision. Single songs are always 79p (or 99 cents in the american store). Thats the price of a song. Always. They make an exception for this song, maybe next time eminem puts out a record he demands they charge more for his music, and then bands are all charging different prices. Now apple can say, all songs 99 cents. No exceptions, either we sell it at that price or we don't. Maybe I'm as bullheaded as Steve, but I would say the exact same thing. When you go to buy a song in itunes you know how much it will cost every time, and that consistency is important to apple to have in their product.

Adthrawn

adthrawn

United Kingdom
April 2004

NOV 29, 2004 05:42 PM

I'm sorry, but for the first time, I'm gonna shout.

HAVE ANY OF YOU FUCKERS ACTUALLY HEARD THE PEICE OF CRAP THEY'RE TRYING TO PASS OFF?!

Ahem. Sorry, but it's a bunch of divas, and fairly crap divas at that, trying to boost their image. If they where so damn keen on making money for the charity, they'd have allowed Apple to sell at any damn price.

Also, please, please don't forget, that leveraging a price the same as shop prices does one thing only - makes more money for the music companies. Don't kid yourself into thinking this single donates all profits. In fact, if Apple had sold the track at 79p, the charity fee would have been the same, if not a little more.

ARRR!!!

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