French troops massacre Ivorian women and children

Strangely, the media doesn't think this is worthy of coverage, But I have the footage.

Warning shots fired over protestors' heads (about 1mb in size)
http://www.gcfirearms.com/ic_samp.wmv

French troops firing on the crowd, wounding and killing what looks like dozens of women and children (about 94mb in size)
http://www.gcfirearms.com/ic_2.mpg

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What the Author wish to do is to show the difference how the U.S. and French our viewed in the World Media. Judging by the complete absence of Ivory Coast debacle in the media is testament. The UN is demanding the U.S. be investigated for War Crimes while the French occupation of independent nation goes unnoticed by the world media. The Authors hopes that watchers and readers can see the double standard that exists for the U.S.

http://www.gcfirearms.com/

[Edited on Nov 18, 2004 by stockula]

Gee, yeah that is mighty odd. Almost inexplicable. The only reason I think that they might not be reporting on it is...

"these videos were edited. Editing of videos may produce impressions not indicative of reality"

The complete lack of reliable evidence of any unlawful action.

Neither of the videos are loading.

Actually, I've learned more about what's happening in Ivory Coast from the mainstream media than I have from anything stock's posted around here.

Also,

And the best they could do was to get it down to *94* Mb?

The videos will speak for themselves, once you see them. Not sure how shooting a 6 year old girl in the middle of an unarmed, non-violent protest is anything other than unlawful. I dont think even being French can excuse it.

yet a ten second video clip in which one shot is fired is evidence enough that marines are machine-gunning unarmed iraqis for no reason?

the video is 108mb long, and it's downloading at .4 kb per second

No, but a video of a Marine shooting a wounded person in the face, accompanied by the testimony of those there, and said marine being arrested is evidence of something.

When has that ever stopped the media from reporting something sensational?

I can't access the videos either, so I'll withhold comment for now.

If, in fact, those videos show soldiers shooting unarmed women and children, that should be indictment enough.

Funny how edited videos you like the meta message of are such good evidence. I'll watch the videos as as soon as someone who isn't a technical incompetent makes them actually available. In the meantime I'm going to give your depiction the credibility it deserves and assume that nothing of the sort actually happened.

And from the two sides to every story department...

This makes much more sense, so far. So the only quarter the accusations seem to be coming from thus far are anti-French demonstrators? I'd like to see even a tiny bit of evidence that the French had anything to do with murder before entertaining a post like the original. It seems to me the time to have done something like that was when the Ivorian army attacked a French base unprovoked. But no. They just blew up a couple of choppers in retaliation.

I thought they blew up some jets as well...

I didn't see any weapons in the Ivorian crowd. The French left AFTER they opened fire and wounded the people. They did not return fire as they were leaving.

True. They were, however, grounded. No reports of Ivorian casualties from the attack.

The accounts given by various sources differ wildly from one to the next, especially in number of deaths. Some report four, others report up to thirty. Too many inconsistencies. You would think that if the French did do this, the Ivorian government would have made a statement to that effect. They have not, as of yet. The accusations are coming from demonstrators.

suprise! another stockula post which supposedly justifies the illegal activity of united states personell by pointing to something totally unrelated (and french) as evidence of that country's supposed moral turpitiude. i'm just wondering, if this story is actually true, does this mean that when american riot cops assault and/or arrest unarmed protesters in this country, then that is evidence of american moral turpitude? it must be, right? everything is black and white/good and evil/ right and wrong. there are no matters of degree in anything.

[Edited on Nov 19, 2004 by dead_ringer]

Oh my god,
An Imperialist country acting in Imperialist ways.
No FUcking Way.

You mean the french shoot and kill civilians too?

No way?

Just like America????

You mean that the age of Imperialism hasn't stopped, and that there are still wars of conquest going on on this planet?

Man, where was I?

Well who cares about our acts of violence in Iraq, I'm gonna go download this clip so I can see ten seconds of something I already know is going on.

So, since Stockula's clearly got his hands on the pulse of conservative sentiment in this country, this really begs the question: How long until we declare war on France, the obviously most evil country on the planet?



I hear they've got WMD up the yin-yang.




And they smell.

it's part of thier evil plan to force us to declare war on them, they surrender and we have to rebuild thier country

So, Stock, I downloaded your film overnight.

Nice to know you're still completely full of shit.

There is no footage of the French shooting anyone. There is no footage of the shooting, its all audio and what looks like someone's shirt too close to focus. It has been heavily edited, the sun is in roughly six different positions, one moment its sunny, the next its raining the next its bone dry, one clip is reversed.

What can be determined from this tape is that some people somewhere were injured and probably killed by something and someone. Those people were black Francophones. Thats it.

The French are over there to keep a despotic and totalitarian government from slaughtering its own people for wanting the right to open and pluralistic elections. That government broke the ceasefire and in the process targeted French peacekeepers. It has gone on state television to incite people to riot against westerners (read: white people) most of whom have now been driven from the country after being evacuated by the French. Thats what those French patrols in the tape are doing by the way, evacuating Europeans to protect them from rape, pillage and murder at the hands of street gangs enhanced by 4000 felons who just happened to "escape" from prison just in time for the riots and looting.

Funny how your standards change when the flags do.

Yeah, they removed the Ivorian air force from play after they bombed a French military installation.

And violated the cease fire that the French are there to enforce by strafing and bombing rebel positions.

Level with me, Stock. Did you have a crush on a French girl that didn't work out?