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Annie

Annie

SUICIDEGIRL

Texas, USA

NOV 18, 2004 09:31 PM

"I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."
--George W. Bush, 11/4/04

We United States citizens have allowed the Bush Administration to effectively bankrupt the U.S. economy by using OUR taxpayer dollars to fund an illegal, preemptive war on Iraq. To date, over 1,200 U.S. soldiers and an estimated 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died and nearly 8,500 U.S. soldiers have been wounded in this illegal war.

Preventing the flow of capital to the government is the only way that the Bush Administration will comply with our demand. This can be accomplished through a MASSIVE, collective, cooperative CASH-flow boycott.

WHEN: Monday, November 22, 2004*
(Phase I)

WHERE: banks, savings & loans, credit
unions, ATMs--nationwide

OUR ONE DEMAND:

Bring all United States soldiers
safely home from Iraq.
(B.U.S.H.)

HOW:
1) On Monday, November 22, 2004,
withdraw as much CASH as you can
afford to NOT SPEND from your bank,
savings & loan, credit union, or ATM
until all U.S. soldiers are safely home
from Iraq.

The amount of CASH can be $5, $10, $20
or more, whatever you can afford to NOT
SPEND until all United States soldiers are
safely home from Iraq.

2) COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE!!

If you withdraw CASH from your ATM,
black out your account number on your
receipt. Write: B.U.S.H. BOYCOTT on the
receipt, and put it in an ATM envelope.
Insert the envelope in the ATM message
slot.

If you withdraw CASH from a bank, inform
the teller or bank manager that you are
participating in the B.U.S.H. Boycott and
will REDEPOSIT this CASH when all
United States soldiers are safely home
from Iraq.

Email, fax, call, write government
representatives, the media, corporations,
businesses, and financial institutions
explaining that you have withdrawn CASH
from your savings account, that you will
not spend, lend or invest your CASH, and
that you will REDEPOSIT your CASH when
all United States soldiers are safely home
from Iraq.

3) Put YOUR CASH in a safe place. Do not
spend, lend, or invest it. Think of it as an
investment in our children's future.

4) Tell everyone you know about the
B.U.S.H. boycott.

5) The B.U.S.H. Boycott is a grassroots
effort created and supported by
concerned citizens who want the illegal
war on Iraq to end. It is not controlled by
the media, political pundits, or corporate
America. Its success depends soley on
we, the people of the United States of
America.

*THE B.U.S.H. BOYCOTT, will be REPEATED on the following dates:

Wednesday, December 22, 2004, Phase 2.

Thursday, January 20, 2005, Phase 3.
(INAUGURATION DAY)

PASS IT ON!!!!

PUT IT IN YOUR CALANDER OR SOMETHING!!!
here is the whole post & also a really good independant news site:
INDYMEDIA
love annie

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

NOV 18, 2004 09:40 PM

While I appreciate the sentiment behind this, I'm confused as to what it is supposed to accomplish.

The government does, after all, print money as needed.

Cruelty

cruelty

Chicago, IL
June 2004

NOV 18, 2004 09:43 PM

Stiles said:
While I appreciate the sentiment behind this, I'm confused as to what it is supposed to accomplish.

The government does, after all, print money as needed.



You are correct. I would love it if this could work...

Arete

Arete

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

NOV 18, 2004 09:45 PM

not investing it slows the economy.
i think....

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

NOV 18, 2004 09:58 PM

Arete said:
not investing it slows the economy.
i think....




I doubt that. The government prints paper money every day for a variety of needs and reasons, so this won't create a shortage of cash. In order to make a real impact, you'd have to convince a lot (millions) of people to pull everything they've got out of the bank.
This would only hurt the banks, of course. So - I still dont understand what this is supposed to accomplish.

MisterGraves

MisterGraves

Portland, OR
November 2003

NOV 18, 2004 10:06 PM

Like I said when you posted this in the Texas group (how many others did you post in?):

This will accomplish nothing.
Most people still think the war was/is a 'good' thing.
Even if 5 million people (about the combined number of people in the US that went to Anti-war demonstrations in 2003) all withdrew their entire savings account (those that even have one), how much money would that take away from investors?

Not a fucking dent's worth.

Also: who is more likely to have accounts they can withdraw from at will?
Right. Not poor people. Not people that oppose the war.

Sounds like that post came from a Trustifarian.

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

NOV 18, 2004 11:43 PM

Yet another toy is flung from the liberal pram in the wake of Bush's re-election.

Besides, even if one didn't believe it was right to go to war with Saddam, if the troops were to leave now there's every chance he or someone much worse would take over.

http://www.thetruthaboutiraq.org/myths_03.htm








oh - and the acronym for "Bring all United States soldiers safely home from Iraq", is BAUSSSHFI not "Bush".

arbutus

arbutus

Antarctica
August 2004

NOV 18, 2004 11:50 PM

Albion said:
Yet another toy is flung from the liberal pram in the wake of Bush's re-election.

Pram? You know, Maggie could still come back if you believe hard enough.



[Edited on Nov 18, 2004 by tangent23]

arbutus

arbutus

Antarctica
August 2004

NOV 18, 2004 11:52 PM

Albion said:

Besides, even if one didn't believe it was right to go to war with Saddam, if the troops were to leave now there's every chance he or someone much worse would take over.




And this, of course, justifies the war.

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

NOV 18, 2004 11:58 PM

yes

sidewalker123

sidewalker123

Kalamazoo, MI
January 2004

NOV 19, 2004 12:02 AM

Fuckit; I'll just walk over to Iraq
and carry them all home myself.

Koenigsegg

Koenigsegg

I'm lost
July 2004

NOV 19, 2004 12:03 AM

Albion said:
oh - and the acronym for "Bring all United States soldiers safely home from Iraq", is BAUSSSHFI not "Bush".



that's just what i was coming here to say.

come on.

arbutus

arbutus

Antarctica
August 2004

NOV 19, 2004 12:07 AM

So, we have traded a hemmed-in dictator for the possibility of an even more destabilizing and dangerous form of rule in Iraq? This hardly seems a great justification for a forcible regime change predicated on the alleged presence, discovery and capture of WMD's.

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

NOV 19, 2004 12:08 AM

Koenigsegg said:

Albion said:
oh - and the acronym for "Bring all United States soldiers safely home from Iraq", is BAUSSSHFI not "Bush".



that's just what i was coming here to say.

come on.



It's like me forming a group called "CHOosing More Security is Kinder for Iraq" - C.H.O.M.S.K.I

lame


arbutus

arbutus

Antarctica
August 2004

NOV 19, 2004 12:10 AM

Albion said:

It's like me forming a group called "CHOosing More Security is Kinder for Iraq" - C.H.O.M.S.K.I

lame





His name is spelled CHOMSKY

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

NOV 19, 2004 12:14 AM

tangent23 said:

Albion said:

It's like me forming a group called "CHOosing More Security is Kinder for Iraq" - C.H.O.M.S.K.I

lame





His name is spelled CHOMSKY



yes I know

and the president's name isn't spelled BAUSSSHFI


arbutus

arbutus

Antarctica
August 2004

NOV 19, 2004 12:16 AM

Albion said:

yes I know

and the president's name isn't spelled BAUSSSHFI



It was a poor analogy

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

NOV 19, 2004 12:20 AM

tangent23 said:

Albion said:

yes I know

and the president's name isn't spelled BAUSSSHFI



It was a poor analogy



It was a poor acronym - I was only parodying it. I'm not sure you quite grasped that...never mind

arbutus

arbutus

Antarctica
August 2004

NOV 19, 2004 12:22 AM

It was also a poor parody...I did indeed grasp the attempt.

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

NOV 19, 2004 12:25 AM

tangent23 said:
It was also a poor parody...I did indeed grasp the attempt.



of course you did

whatever

arbutus

arbutus

Antarctica
August 2004

NOV 19, 2004 12:27 AM

Good night cutie. kiss

anger_frog

anger_frog

I'm lost
January 2004

NOV 19, 2004 12:42 AM

Anyway...

At this point we've got too many chips in the pot to fold. While the beginning the war was pointless and wasteful (except for the profiteers of course), we've gone too far for pulling out to be an option. Kerry himself remained on a platform for establishment of a democratic government in Iraq. The best we can hope for now is the establishment of a self-governing state that can deal with the extremist effectively under its own power sometime in the near future that costs as few lives as possible.

I think the premise behind the bank idea is to withdraw so much money from the bank that it causes a stagnation in the economy, which was a common problem in the early 19th century, particulary with the mishandling of federal money by Andrew Jackson which lead to the Panic of 1837. However, the idea has major flaws:

1. The amount of money in circulation at this time would require the removal of several billion dollars before you even see a difference.

2. The people who would be interested in doing this do not have the money or the flexibility to not spend their money that would be necessary to make a difference.

3. The people who have the money necessary to pull this off only have a small fraction of their total wealth in banks; the remainder lay in investment portfolios, land holdings, offshore accounts, etc.

4. George W. screwed the economy, burned away a economic surplus and left the biggest deficet in decades...and got re-elected. How exactly would it hurt him if someone else did this for him?

Love or hate it, we're stuck with him for the next four years. But he can't run for a third term, and Dick Cheney is about as charismatic as a syphilitic badger with the longetivity to boot. So just sit tight, think rational, and maybe we'll get to the other end of the tunnel in one piece.

cthav

cthav

USA
August 2004

NOV 19, 2004 02:22 AM

Stiles said:
While I appreciate the sentiment behind this, I'm confused as to what it is supposed to accomplish.

The government does, after all, print money as needed.



No. Private banking companies print the money (of which there is no gold reserve to balance out the system), and loan it to the government.

The banking system is one of the largest problems in our country and in the world, and people are rarely ever talking about it, and the people who stand out against it tend to get killed very quickly.

I highly recomend reading the writings of Joseph Hasslberger and Silvo Gesell.
http://www.hasslberger.com/economy/eco.htm

cthav

cthav

USA
August 2004

NOV 19, 2004 02:26 AM

Albion said:
oh - and the acronym for "Bring all United States soldiers safely home from Iraq", is BAUSSSHFI not "Bush".



Bring United States Home? BUSH - use your imagination dude. though they defenitely were stretching it a bit on that one.

Tony1970

Tony1970

Titusville, FL
December 2003

NOV 19, 2004 03:47 AM

I will point out that even before Bush originally obtained office in 2000 that the national debt was already extremely high...we have been "bankrupt" for a long time.

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