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dylanisdead

dylanisdead

Minneapolis, MN
February 2004

NOV 17, 2004 08:15 PM



Atlantis 'just a volcano'
From correspondents in Berlin, Germany
17nov04

THE remains of the lost city of Atlantis, which a United States researcher claims to have found off the Mediterranean island of Cyprus, are in fact submarine volcanoes, according to a German physicist.

US researcher Robert Sarmast claimed on Monday to have found proof that the mythical lost city of Atlantis actually existed and is located under the Mediterranean seabed between Cyprus and Syria.
But German physicist Christian Huebscher said he had identified the phenomenon as 100,000 year-old volcanoes that spewed mud.

Mr Huebscher, of the Hamburg Centre for Marine and Atmospheric Sciences, is quoted in tomorrow's edition of the newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung as saying he and two Dutch colleagues had sailed in a boat to the same area at which Mr Sarmast claimed to have located Atlantis and made their findings.

Mr Sarmast's team claims to have found man-made structures located about 1.5 kilometres below sea level and 80 kilometres off the south-east coast of Cyprus.

In his book Discovery of Atlantis, Mr Sarmast argued Cyprus was once part of that lost continent - at its highest peak - and said his findings matched almost perfectly every clue in the philosopher Plato's description of the legendary city state.

Plato's famed account in Timaeus and Critias is the sole source of the Atlantis myth dating back to 9000 BC.

The privately-funded $US200,000 ($258,830) expedition seeks to confound sceptics by bringing back scientific side-scan sonar data which supports evidence revealing man-made structures such as a three-kilometre wall.

Plato said an epochal flood "swallowed up" the mountainous island of Atlantis.

Other theories place the lost civilisation in the South China Sea, the Azores, the Aegean or the Atlantic Ocean. Greek mythology has it Atlantis was destroyed as punishment by Zeus for the greed and corruption that befell the city.



Holy shit, that would be crazy if it actually is Atlantis!

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

NOV 17, 2004 08:18 PM

You can't find something that never existed, because it was only a legend.


[Edited on Nov 17, 2004 by Keith]

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

NOV 17, 2004 08:20 PM

Keith said:
You can't find something that never existed, because it was only a legend told by a blind man.


Didn't waste any time on that one, didja? wink

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

NOV 17, 2004 08:30 PM

MisterSatan said:

Keith said:
You can't find something that never existed, because it was only a legend told by a blind man.


Didn't waste any time on that one, didja? wink



Heh.

Well, if you want specifics, Cyprus can't be Atlantis as described by Plato [who wasn't blind, my bad] because he described it as being *west* of Gibraltar.


[Edited on Nov 17, 2004 by Keith]

Kosomot

kosomot

Pompano Beach, FL
November 2003

NOV 17, 2004 08:33 PM

Keith said:
You can't find something that never existed, because it was only a legend.


[Edited on Nov 17, 2004 by Keith]


How do you explain him?

Slander

Slander

Dayton, OH
May 2004

NOV 17, 2004 09:05 PM

kosomot said:

Keith said:
You can't find something that never existed, because it was only a legend.


[Edited on Nov 17, 2004 by Keith]


How do you explain him?



Another dream that J.R. had.

turin

turin

Denver, CO
October 2003

NOV 17, 2004 09:06 PM

if I weren't drunk I could probably think of something really clever to say about atlantis being "found" 3 times a year and how it's like something else, but uh... well, there you go.

HORUS73

HORUS73

Sun Prairie, WI
June 2003

NOV 17, 2004 09:10 PM

I remember watching 'In Search Of' when I was a kid about them finding what they considered to be the lost city of Atlantis...They found it under water, and in the middle of the city, they found a gold pair of arms holding some large gem...now that I think of it, it was all probably just a hoax...

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

NOV 17, 2004 09:19 PM


Abominable Snowman says, "WHO YOU CALLIN' A LEGEND?!?"

I love crap like this ... Atlantis, UFOs, Bigfoot, the NHL, the Loch Ness Monster ... I'd like to believe they all exist, or did at one time. That would be cool.

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

NOV 17, 2004 09:21 PM

Slander said:
How do you explain him?



Another dream that J.R. had.


It was Pamela's dream, I believe.

cthav

cthav

USA
August 2004

NOV 17, 2004 09:26 PM

Keith said:
You can't find something that never existed, because it was only a legend.


[Edited on Nov 17, 2004 by Keith]



Goodness knows, there were never stories about real places before. It's in a book. Thus. It's. Not real. And. This. Proves. My theory. Of. Something.

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

NOV 17, 2004 11:55 PM

cthav said:

Keith said:
You can't find something that never existed, because it was only a legend.


[Edited on Nov 17, 2004 by Keith]



Goodness knows, there were never stories about real places before. It's in a book. Thus. It's. Not real. And. This. Proves. My theory. Of. Something.



According to Plato, the story of Atlantis was told by Solon, who said the island existed 9000 years before. This would place the time period in the Early Stone Age. There have never been ruins of a [relatively] advanced civilization from that time period found anywhere on Earth.

Plato also said the island of Atlantis was larger than Libya and "Asia" [North Africa and the Middle East in that day] combined.

Plato said the Atlanteans built a ditch that was 100 feet deep, 600 feet and 11,000 miles long. Nothing like this has ever been found.

No one else that we've found in recorded history prior to Plato, in all those supposed 9,000 years, wrote anything about Atlantis or a supposed battle between Atlantis and Egypt, including the Egyptians! Every mention of Atlantis goes back to one person -- Plato. Don't you think that's a bit of a clue that this was a legend, a myth, Plato was talking about? A moral allegory? A legend which might have incorporated *small* bits of truth about some historical disaster? For example, the island of Santorini, which was mostly destroyed by a volcano 1,000 years before Plato?

http://skeptic.com/atlantis/atlantis1.html

Let me know when Xanadu and El Dorado are discovered.

[Edited on Nov 18, 2004 by Keith]

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

NOV 18, 2004 12:09 AM

Here is a map of some of the places people have claimed to have "found" Atlantis in:



And I'd like to be clear, I'm not mad at the original poster or people who entertain these ideas, but I saw this story covered on CNN -- which gives it some air of authority. That our media reports such bollocks unskeptically gets me steaming.

pygmy

pygmy

Portland, OR
July 2004

NOV 18, 2004 12:18 AM

The Germans are still working on that?

Wasn't Hitler real keen on finding it, fancied himself an Atlantian? I don't remember details.. anyone?

dylanisdead

dylanisdead

Minneapolis, MN
February 2004

NOV 18, 2004 01:04 PM

Keith said:
Here is a map of some of the places people have claimed to have "found" Atlantis in:



And I'd like to be clear, I'm not mad at the original poster or people who entertain these ideas, but I saw this story covered on CNN -- which gives it some air of authority. That our media reports such bollocks unskeptically gets me steaming.



Nothing really exciting and full of wonder has ever come out of the human race(for the most part). So it's just nice to maybe believe that things like this excist.

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

NOV 18, 2004 01:23 PM

Keith said:
Here is a map of some of the places people have claimed to have "found" Atlantis in:

*picture of where Atlantis has been suggested*

And I'd like to be clear, I'm not mad at the original poster or people who entertain these ideas, but I saw this story covered on CNN -- which gives it some air of authority. That our media reports such bollocks unskeptically gets me steaming.


Keith, the media reports bullshit all the time. I'd rather it be something like this than be out and out lied to. "There's no war going on! Your lives are great! Now here's some images of pretty celebrities to keep your mind off your shitty life!"

If you're going to get pissed off at one thing the media reports that you deem as false, then you should get pissed off at 90 to 95% of what they're telling you. Besides, I found that not watching the news made me less angry and kept the bullshit level in my daily life at a record low. Something for you to think about, my friend.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

NOV 18, 2004 01:49 PM

Keith said:

And I'd like to be clear, I'm not mad at the original poster or people who entertain these ideas, but I saw this story covered on CNN -- which gives it some air of authority. That our media reports such bollocks unskeptically gets me steaming.



You know, some people (myself included) are interested in stuff like this, as much "bollocks" as it may be.

I'd rather see this than another story about who Britney Spears may or may not be marrying this week.

fenris23

fenris23

Vancouver, BC
February 2003

NOV 18, 2004 02:23 PM

FreakPirate said:

Keith said:

And I'd like to be clear, I'm not mad at the original poster or people who entertain these ideas, but I saw this story covered on CNN -- which gives it some air of authority. That our media reports such bollocks unskeptically gets me steaming.



You know, some people (myself included) are interested in stuff like this, as much "bollocks" as it may be.

I'd rather see this than another story about who Britney Spears may or may not be marrying this week.



I'm going to give a big hells ya to that.

Minerva

Minerva

HOPEFUL

Annapolis, MD

NOV 18, 2004 02:47 PM

FreakPirate said:

Keith said:

And I'd like to be clear, I'm not mad at the original poster or people who entertain these ideas, but I saw this story covered on CNN -- which gives it some air of authority. That our media reports such bollocks unskeptically gets me steaming.



You know, some people (myself included) are interested in stuff like this, as much "bollocks" as it may be.

I'd rather see this than another story about who Britney Spears may or may not be marrying this week.



i concur.

Mike11

Mike11

Titusville, FL
OLD SKOOL

NOV 18, 2004 03:25 PM

I think this news could destroy the Stargate Atlantis TV show.

Sean

Sean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

NOV 18, 2004 03:34 PM


Don't forget Keith, everyone thought Troy was a myth until they dug it up.

The Atlantis legend is probably the story of Santorini, just exaggerated because plato told the story centuries after the volcano that erupted there destroyed the civilization on the island and sunk most of the center of the island. I've been to the excavation on Santorini and studied ancient greek history in college and am firmly in the Atlantis = Santorini camp, which a lot of classicists think to be the simplest and most probable explanation given Platos recounting of Atlantis.

dylanisdead

dylanisdead

Minneapolis, MN
February 2004

NOV 18, 2004 03:34 PM

FreakPirate said:

Keith said:

And I'd like to be clear, I'm not mad at the original poster or people who entertain these ideas, but I saw this story covered on CNN -- which gives it some air of authority. That our media reports such bollocks unskeptically gets me steaming.



You know, some people (myself included) are interested in stuff like this, as much "bollocks" as it may be.

I'd rather see this than another story about who Britney Spears may or may not be marrying this week.



Fo' shizzle. biggrin

Cairo

Cairo

SUICIDEGIRL

Maryland, USA

NOV 20, 2004 09:06 PM

Sean said:

Don't forget Keith, everyone thought Troy was a myth until they dug it up.



I never knew that. I'm so out of the loop. blackeyed

Thanks Sean. You have now furthered my education. wink

As far as the Atlantis theory/myth, I neither believe nor disbelieve. I second FP's anti-Britney comment. Atlantis is much more interesting than her scandalous tattoos and shitty acting skills.

And also Donald Trump. I'm sick of hearing about that guy.