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sadisticmika

sadisticmika

I'm lost
July 2004

NOV 16, 2004 12:51 PM

Yes, I know that's FOX, but... At the doctors today, I was reading Time, and they listed the winners and losers of the campaign, among the losers they listed Michael Moore, Al Franken. Among the winners they listed Ann Coulter.

Ann Coulter couldn't win an IQ test if she were given the answers prior. Granted she did graduate from the Uiniversity of Michigan's Law school, a good school, but not quite as good as Harvard where Jeffords (whom she trashed), graduated and refered to as (D.U.M.M.)... for getting prior to SAT admissions...

This is the woman that essentially calls men who don't agree with her, or men who take a liberal stance, 'homosexuals'... this is a woman who admits that her sexuality sells her books, this is a woman who notoriously misquotes, mis-cites, and generally is a black mark for even the conservitive parties since most of her rhetoric is vitriolic fervor aimed at making 'liberals' out to be the American Hating, Apple Pie-intolerant flag burners she assumes they are... The woman that said that J.W.Linde should be executed to scare liberals, the woman who said that the 'earth is ours, we should rape it, take it...', citing the bible... this is the woman that said we should kill them and convert them to Christianity.

And she's a WINNER? They made it seem as if she was just a feisty gal with an opinion, rather than a blatanty aristocratic lunatic who can't hold her own in a debate.

I guess you're a loser if you don't pick the good white American team, team Dubya... Time Magazine, where do you get your advertising funding? (There were lots of pharmaceudical ads, that should clue you)...

EndedBen

EndedBen

Grand Rapids, MI
August 2004

NOV 16, 2004 12:54 PM

Maybe it was Opposite Day?

Miel

Miel

Goleta, CA
October 2004

NOV 16, 2004 01:04 PM

I think they were going by popular opinion...I've seen many more Ann Coulter fans than Michael Moore fans, but then I live in the conservative capital of California.

Also, a lot of liberals (like myself) don't like any form of propaganda, whether they agree with it or not. I'm sure some conservatives feel this way as well but I haven't met many...

Edit: Gah, spelling.

[Edited on Nov 16, 2004 by Miel]

legionnaire

legionnaire

Belgium
November 2003

NOV 16, 2004 01:10 PM

Miel said:
I think they were going by popular opinion...I've seen many more Anne Coulter fans than Michael Moore fans, but then I live in the conservative capital of California.

Also, a lot of liberals (like myself) don't like any form of propaganda, whether they agree with it or not. I'm sure some conservatives feel this way as well but I haven't met many...



The fact is that Coulter really isn't seen as much besides a circus sideshow freak in any kind of (even remotely) reasonable discourse, conservative or otherwise. She's adept at manipulating the media for her own, personal financial gain, that's about all I can say that's good about the woman. But I don't think she's really representative of anyone but the most rabidly insane extremists out there.

Mullen

Mullen

San Diego, CA
April 2003

NOV 16, 2004 01:16 PM

You are right, and Time is half right. Michael Moore and Al Franken did lose big time. If there is one reason why I am glad that Kerry lost the election would be put into two words: Michael Moore. I don't like Bush, but there is no way I was going to vote against him if Michael Moore was against him.

Hate to break the news to you, but Michael Moore and Al Franken are utterly dispised in the rural parts of America. Michael Moore's anti-gun trash lie, Bowling for Columbine, probably cost Kerry the election in several pro-gun States.

The problem is, there is a big disconnect between the Michael Moore and Al Franken types and the rest of America.

luckyride

luckyride

Portland, OR
May 2003

NOV 16, 2004 01:20 PM

SmellinOfTroy said:
Maybe it was Opposite Day?



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contrast

contrast

Minneapolis, MN
January 2004

NOV 16, 2004 02:53 PM

stop equating moore with franken.

saritalr

saritalr

Mexico
December 2003

NOV 16, 2004 05:30 PM

We had Moore and Coulter speak at my school last year. Not a debate or anything but on seperate occasions.
I missed the Moore speech. But i went to the Coulter one. Ive never been so mad in my entire life. But the most disturbing thing is that people in the audience (it was open to the public) would stand up and shout things like "we love you ann!" She really does appeal to a certain sector of society.

that is whats really disturbing. she's more of a stand up comedian than any sort of intellectual that should be respected for her opinions. if someone said something she didnt like (we had a q and a) she'd just insult them. it was too depressing.

sadisticmika

sadisticmika

I'm lost
July 2004

NOV 16, 2004 05:37 PM

Mullen said:
Hate to break the news to you, but Michael Moore and Al Franken are utterly dispised in the rural parts of America. Michael Moore's anti-gun trash lie, Bowling for Columbine, probably cost Kerry the election in several pro-gun States.

The problem is, there is a big disconnect between the Michael Moore and Al Franken types and the rest of America.

The thing is you can look at the Bush states, and the Kerry States, and not surprisingly where people actually have running water that doesn't come out of 'cardy board tubes', those states were Kerry states.

Unlike Chomsky, (even though I like Chomsky), and much like Lenin, I have this theory that a good percentage of the United States (located mostly smack dab in the middle of it, where no planes land), shouldn't be allowed to vote if they're tricked into thinking that stem cell research makes Jesus cry.

Dems have lost 5 of the last 7 elections, if democrats want to get back in office, if we really do want to start making liberal policies, apparently someone is going to have to do some sort of centrist spin on what they're trying to achive... You need another person exactly like Clinton, a good old boy from Arkansas, who quotes the Bible... I really don't think that Franken/Moore caused people to vote for Bush instead of Kerry... nobody said, "that damn Michael Moore, I was in the middle but that loud mouth should have shut his pie hole..."

Anyways, I'm remembering fondly the "Al Franken Decade" now, so I'll close on that note.

s5

s5

STAFF

San Francisco, CA

NOV 16, 2004 05:51 PM

Mullen said:
Hate to break the news to you, but Michael Moore and Al Franken are utterly dispised in the rural parts of America. Michael Moore's anti-gun trash lie, Bowling for Columbine, probably cost Kerry the election in several pro-gun States.



hate to break it the news to you, but ann coulter is utterly despised in the urban parts of america. so what. they have their heros, we have ours. at least our heros are vaguely inept comedians rather than joe mccarthy loving moonbats.

SignalNoise

SignalNoise

USA
February 2004

NOV 16, 2004 06:12 PM

Mullen said:
Hate to break the news to you, but Michael Moore and Al Franken are utterly dispised in the rural parts of America. Michael Moore's anti-gun trash lie, Bowling for Columbine, probably cost Kerry the election in several pro-gun States.



i don't want to tangent and i could be *totally* off base ... but i didn't think "bowling for columbine" was much about guns. i really see it as asking questions about violence in culture. but i dunno. i mean, you can still think he's wrong - i'd just like to get his argument straight.

edited for typos

[Edited on Nov 16, 2004 by SignalNoise]

contrast

contrast

Minneapolis, MN
January 2004

NOV 16, 2004 06:28 PM


Michael Moore's anti-gun trash lie, Bowling for Columbine, probably cost Kerry the election in several pro-gun States.



lol, and people say we underestimate the intelligence of bush voters.

troglodyte

troglodyte

Victoria, BC
May 2003

NOV 16, 2004 07:31 PM

Sarita said:
She really does appeal to a certain sector of society.



Yup. And that segment is, ironically, to the left on this diagram:

s5

s5

STAFF

San Francisco, CA

NOV 16, 2004 08:20 PM

SignalNoise said:
i don't want to tangent and i could be *totally* off base ... but i didn't think "bowling for columbine" was much about guns. i really see it as asking questions about violence in culture. but i dunno. i mean, you can still think he's wrong - i'd just like to get his argument straight.



that's exactly what i got out of it too. especially how he asked the question "why do americans and canadians both own guns, but americans are more likely to be shot?". he gave no conclusive answers, but ironically enough, i completely reconsidered my pro gun control stance after watching that movie.

i found it to be a very thought provoking movie, and anyone who walked out of it thinking "yeah! guns are bad!" or "fuck you michael moore, i like guns!" missed the point entirely.

FermatsEnigma

FermatsEnigma

USA
August 2004

NOV 16, 2004 08:43 PM

troglodyte said:

Sarita said:
She really does appeal to a certain sector of society.



Yup. And that segment is, ironically, to the left on this diagram:



Unless we were to use Hebrew which reads right to left. Liberalism doesn't sell meaning I encourage you to keep pushing it

Slander

Slander

Dayton, OH
May 2004

NOV 16, 2004 08:44 PM

Mullen said:
You are right, and Time is half right. Michael Moore and Al Franken did lose big time. If there is one reason why I am glad that Kerry lost the election would be put into two words: Michael Moore. I don't like Bush, but there is no way I was going to vote against him if Michael Moore was against him.

Hate to break the news to you, but Michael Moore and Al Franken are utterly dispised in the rural parts of America. Michael Moore's anti-gun trash lie, Bowling for Columbine, probably cost Kerry the election in several pro-gun States.

The problem is, there is a big disconnect between the Michael Moore and Al Franken types and the rest of America.



Wait, hold up, hold on...are you or are you not saying that you voted for Bush primarily because Moore supported Kerry? I don't wanna put words into your mouth or misinterpret you, but it seems like you're saying that despite a dislike for Mr. Bush, you voted against the guy that Moore supported. Is that the case? I mean, it ain't none of my business if you don't think it is, but you put this comment out there, so I'm just curious...

FermatsEnigma

FermatsEnigma

USA
August 2004

NOV 16, 2004 08:46 PM

Sadistic_Miike said:
(Big long post about the tripe that Time peddles)



Use the pages to line your hamster cage. I did when I had a hamster

troglodyte

troglodyte

Victoria, BC
May 2003

NOV 17, 2004 11:44 PM

Tannhauser said:

troglodyte said:

Sarita said:
She really does appeal to a certain sector of society.



Yup. And that segment is, ironically, to the left on this diagram:



Unless we were to use Hebrew which reads right to left


OK, hands up everyone here that speaks Hebrew!

Liberalism doesn't sell meaning I encourage you to keep pushing it


OK, what?

HellboundLiberal

HellboundLiberal

Nashville, TN
August 2004

NOV 18, 2004 01:28 AM

He's basically saying that he's right and you're wrong. Nyah.