NEWS: A Cure for Fat Mice

Here's a news flash: HFCS is sugar. Actually, two of them. It is composed of sucrose and fructose. Guess what table sugar is: sucrose and fructose. Some kinds of HFCS have more fructose than table sugar does. Some have about the same. Both are sugar. Both are converted to glucose. There is no biochemical reason the body would know the difference between sugars in the form of HFCS or sugar in the form of table sugar. And you haven't provided one. That there are more fat people just doesn't cut it as evidence. Want to try again?

I guess I'll post this again, since you obviously didn't read it.

http://www.illnessisoptional.com/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=55&z=11

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That's like saying smoking doesn't cause lung cancer, when the evidence is right in front of you. I have shown you the evidence twice.

I bet you are one of those people who think the holocaust never happened, aren't you?

People in general are eating worse and getting less exercise. I have a feeling that has a lot more to do with obesity than a single ingredient in their sodas.

And this was just dumb.

I read your post. Here is what is wrong with it. You conflate HFCS with fructose. And make a false distinction between fructose and sugar. Once more with feeling. HFCS is a sugar—an artificially produced disaccharide composed of two simple sugars—glucose and fructose (Fructose is the sugar that is in fruit—if the problem of obesity if fructose, than fruit must also make people obese according to your argument). The sugar on your table is exactly the same (fructose and glucose) only it isn’t artificially produced and HFCS can be manipulated to contain more fructose. Glucose can be absorbed in the blood stream right away, (which does lead to insulin production. (Incidentally, insulin is a hormone that functions to store excess energy.) some fructose is converted into glucose in the liver and sent into the blood stream. Your body will either use it for energy, store it as glycogen, or store it as fat. This depends on your bodies metabolic needs, not on what form you consumed the sugar in.

If you eat cookies because you are hungry, you will get fat whether its made from HFCS or table sugar. The problem is not the fructose, the problem is that cookies are calories dense, so eating enough cookies to feel full is a fuck load of calories.

What exactly is a P.D. degree?

The study links obesity to the consumption of soda and other sweetened beverages containing HFCS and is not the indictment of fructose that you seem to think it is. Did you even read it?. It hypothesizes a partial biochemical explanation (though admits it lacks the clinical study to establish it) and even then limits its conclusion to HFCS taken in liquid form (sodas juices). The authors conclude that HFCS consumed in solid foods likely doesn’t have the same problems. It relies more heavily on the fact that as a result of drinking more soda people are consuming more calories and drinking less milk.

No, I’m not. I am one of those people who took exercise physiology. I bet you are one of those people who resort to comparing people to Nazi’s when they run out of arguments. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have some manscaping to do before I fuck my girlfriend.


[Edited on Nov 19, 2004 by smithers_jones]

a cure for fat mice: stop prodding them with needles and feeding them crap in a lab cage.