A challenge

For those of us who aren't planning to vote for Bush, Kerry, or Nader I've found a site that has all the other candidates running for president on it. The link is here.
Here's the challenge for those of you who haven't decided on who to vote for or are considering not voting at all: look at the website linked above & find the candidate you feel has the best plan. Even if Bush or Kerry win ths election enough votes for third party or independant candidates will raise eyebrows in the big two parties. To take it one step further, find a congressial candidate that is not a member of the big two & vote for he or she. If we can't get the big two out of the white house, we can put a dent in thier numbers in congress. The biggest voting block that won't vote according to the polls is the 18 to 25 age group. You are the largest block in the country & if you were to vote for third party or independant candidates they would win seats in congress, forcing the big two to shut up & listen to what you have to say. The more people in this block that vote, the bigger the impact you'll have.

[Edited on Sep 09, 2004 by Sempi]

The national barking spider resurgence. WTF over.

im still voting for clinton

Vote for me. It makes just as much sense.

wtf is the Turtle Party?

I don't know, but I like turtles so they get my vote.

Dang. There's a lot o' them muthafuckas.

I'm thinking the barking spider ressurgence is the one for me...

hehehe, Michael Bay has an associates from the college six of my friends go to...

man, that first candidate is an asshole...

So many of these guys don't know where they stand...I'm tempted to just vote for the guy with the most answers because they are likely to change once they get the information they need...A lot seem like they just don't understand the concept of the presidency.

oh, now I've died and gone to heaven



The United Fascist Union

In regards to the original post, Sempi, I think the only way that voting independent is really going to raise any eyebrows is if people find a third party candidate and rally around him or her. If the 18-25 demographic just throws their votes at the most random parties they can think of in some kind of protest, all they're doing is guaranteeing that whoever does get elected from the mainstream party (and come on, I support multiple political parties but let's not delude ourselves; either Bush or Kerry is going to take this election) is going to completely ignore that portion of his constituency when they take office. After ill, those voters didn't help him, why should he help them?

That being said - I think starting at the local level is a good idea, and much more likely to actually happen. That's whatI think one of the big flaws in the third party movement has been for the past few elections. Each election some third party presidential candidate tries to make a big splash, rails against the evils of the two-party system and hopes to get a minor fraction of the vote. In my opinion, a more effective tactic would be to focus on very, very small elections first and give people a chance to become familiar with the platform and values of the third party. Once that happens, they'll be more likely to consider voting for a congressperson affiliated with that party. Maybe some day they'll get a few senators - that would be a major coup for any third party, and would send a much stronger message than half a percentage point in a national election.

I'm loving this guy from the "Menorah-Thor" party(?). Greatly increasing funding for, oh, everything, while eliminating a ton of taxes. Mainly i like him because he can evidently create money out of thin air.

And hey, take a look at candidate #2 for the Prohibition party (something you think i'd get behind). Eliminating funding for education and the arts? BRILLIANT. I LOVE HIM, GIVE HIM THE JOB.

Lord, it's no wonder there's turned out to be only 2 major political parties.

You bring up a great point I overlooked. While focusing on the big picture, I missed the small one. As far as which third party to back, The Green Party or The Libertarian Party look like the best one to back. Good lookin' out!

Fun facts: wrote New World Order for the New Millenium with Sally Parker. I thought my vote was decided, but I'm definitely tempted. If he's elected, we'll all have to listen to Ministry and stare at old Peter Saville designs for Factory albums.

if you are in a swing state vote for kerry, that is all i can ask.

Since when did everyone decide it's not imperative to get rid of Bush?

Since Kerry is no better than Bush in the scheme of things. I won't vote for either. I will vote for who I support..

silly double-post.

[Edited on Sep 09, 2004 by DeadlyEye]

SINCE WHEN?


*malais'd*

[Edited on Sep 09, 2004 by Jeff_Fries]

This is not the time to fuck around. I took a vow when i turned 18 to NEVER vote for any Democrat or any republican until we had a viable 3rd party ion this counrty. I am brekaing that vow this year and will vote a straight democrat ticket. There is soemthing downright evil going on in the USA right now and I will not stand by and let it happen. I will fight, despite the sacrifices I will have to make. I can vote for my 3rd 4th or 5th parties another time. This year is for real. The republicans have hijacked any and all elections they can and in Texas they hijacked the entire electoral process. They are slowly but sure seizing control of this nation and they will not let go of it once they have it. I saw what happened in Cali, and Mass and Texas, and it is conspiracy. they have inserted candidates and manipulated and lied and I will do what I can to stop them.

And fuck that liberal paranoia argument. I'm not paranoid, just not brainwashed.

Do the right thing!
Hold your nose and vote for Kerry!

I agree, totally. I changed my registration from Green to Democrat. This is the most important election in my lifetime.

I wondered where you guys went.

Let's just hope we're in the majority in Nov.

I trully hope so. I'm afraid we're a far cry from rock bottom.

What none of the "Kerry's to moderate for me" crowd?

None of the "Kerry does not stand a chance" bush supporters?

Thank goodness, I'm tired of all the crap. I want this election done and Kerry in office.