World as a whole prefer Kerry over Bush

Global survey shows 30 of 35 countries want Kerry in White House

YahooNews

Here are some of the numbers:

Norway -- Kerry 74% Bush 7%
Germany -- Kerry 74% Bush 10%
France -- Kerry 64% Bush 5%
Netherlands -- Kerry 63% Bush 6%
Italy -- Kerry 58% Bush 14%
Spain -- Kerry 45% Bush 7%
Britain -- Kerry 47% Bush 16%

Remember ... when we elect a President, the rest of the world has to live with who we choose to head the only world's only superpower.

I'm sure the world as a whole wanted anyone but Saddam as well, but usually you get no say in other nations elections.

Or lack of elections...

I don't think it's fair to compare Bush to Saddam. Saddam served in the military, Bush didn't.

It was a good thing that the American Government made the decision to install him, and to subsequently remove him because he had WMD... I mean to remove him because it's in the oil cartels best int- ,whoops I mean the Iraqi peoples best interest. If theres one thing that America doesn't stand for, it's dealing with nations who support terrorists or who violate human rights (Saudi Arabia doesn't count)

All I'm saying is no one outside the country counts. There is a reason that of the what... 200 or so nations in the world not a single one lets people from other nations vote in their presidential elections.

Heck, half of them don't let the people in their own nations vote.

they don't get to vote in our elections...but their opinion does matter, especially when the US needs those countries' intelligence agencies to help prevent future terrorist attacks.

the US needs the world just as much as the world needs the US, believe it or not, so those outside the country do "count" a great deal.

[Edited on Sep 08, 2004 by whiterabbit]

Their opinion matters how though? Should we change the way we hold elections because other nations don't like who we vote for?

I really don't see how this poll affects the upcoming elections at all, or why it should.

please, please, please don't vote him back in for another term...

No one said it should affect anything. It is just intended to prove that other countries think that Bush is as much of an asshole as most people here do.

Hey, we didn't vote him in last time, either. He had to cheat in order to win the election, remember?

Uh...no, it doesn't. Just like I have no idea what the key issues in, let's say, Norway are, I am sure that the people there are not particularly well-informed on the key issues Americans will base their votes on. These kinds of statistics are interesting, but that's really about it.

'No one said it should affect anything. It is just intended to prove that other countries think that Bush is as much of an asshole as most people here do.'

Except that most people HERE are planning on voting for him... based on recent polls. What you probably mean is that people in other countries think he is more of an asshole than people here do... which everyone already knew.

I thought this little commentatry gives a well said way the world is looking at the upcoming American election.

Most "likely voters" is what the polls showed, most people in the USA don't vote at all

Since you insist on pursuing this ...

Do they get to vote in our election? Well duh! No!
Do we vote in their elections? Ditto.
Does our election affect them more than their elections affect us? You bet your ass it does.

US foreign policy affects every single nation in the world. Norway's foreign policy doesn't have quite that kind of impact. We are the world's largest economy. When we elect a complete moron who turns a $250 Billion surplus into a $450B deficit, it affects the whole world.

If you're an isolationist who thinks the opinions of the world mean nothing, they you definitely shouldn't vote for Bush. Bush has created an economy that rewards American companies for shipping jobs overseas. If we get cut off from computer programmers in Asia, our economy will fall. Bush has increased our dependence on fossil fuels, and has fought against efforts to require high gas milleage vehicles. In Michigan, he's trying to use Kerry's environmental record for supporting better fuel economy as a wedge issue. What that means is more dependence on foreign oil.

Bush isn't pressing the US to further develop sustainable fuel sources, such as solar technology and wind turbines, and is allowing America to fall behind in these areas.

Despite being the world's only superpower and the world's largest economy, we are still dependent on the rest of the world. Bush has damaged relations with EU nations. The Abu Ghraib prison scandal has permanently stained our nation's reputation. Bush has done more harm than good worldwide, and at home.

I'm glad you like to think of Bush as another Saddam, but toppling the Bush adminstration by military force would be wrong. We need to vote him out of office. These numbers tell you that the world would like us to put an end to this madness.

I didn't say anything about Norway.

I said I don't care who people in other countries think should be president. I'm sure no on in the US is voting based on what they think people in other countries want.

This is brilliant and really says it all ... but just to prove the point I think we should invade Ireland.

Ok.. so nations like Great Britain and Russia arent super powers?

I dun giddit

Kerry is a fag so is bush, just put bob dole in the white house

You said world opinion shouldn't effect our elections. I gave Norway as an example because 74% of their population would prefer that we elect John Kerry.

The message you don't seem to get is that we don't live in a vacuum. Of course we make our own decisions, but when world opinion is so overwhelming opposed to the current US President, and these are our allies not our enemies, that should tell you that there's something really, really wrong.

America does in fact force its opinion about how to rule on other nations all of the time. We've lost all credibility about telling nations not to torture their people, thanks to Abu Ghraib, but we've toppled plenty of governments just because we can.

You seem to be saying that even listening to world opinion is a sign of weakness. That's just stupid and wrong -- and that mentality is why the overwhelming majority of the world doesn't want Republicans running our government.

Are you saying that they are?

There is no nation in the world that has the massive killing power of the US military -- there hasn't been anyone even close since the Soviet Union collapsed.

I'd hate to be a member of the world. Laymers.

[Edited on Sep 08, 2004 by Jeff_Fries]

Oh I am so voting for him.

What are you drinking?

Who gives a flying fuck what the rest of the world thinks.

Who is looking out for me, my familly, and my best interests? (Bush)

Who is looking out for France, Germany, Norway, Brussells, Sweeden, the UN? (Kerry)