For Vladimir Putin, the end of the school siege at Beslan in North Ossetia could prove to be the defining moment in his presidency. It will now be very difficult for him to wriggle free of the accusation that he has the blood of innocent children on his hands. As the debriefings and investigations continue, the Russian president will argue that the violence was prompted by the Chechen terrorists who provided the trigger event by shooting at escaping children leaving the Russian security forces with no option but to respond but the casualties are still his responsibility. However, there was clearly no formulated plan and so much was wrong with the operation that questions are bound to be asked about the Russian governments attitude to internal security in the face of a bitter separatist war which has been waged since 1994 and has cost more than 100,000 lives.
Putin came to power in 1999 promising to wield the mailed fist at the separatists. A wave of Chechen attacks against Russian civilian targets had prompted nationwide fear and dismay and there were widespread calls for something to be done. Sensing the mood, the incoming president, a judo black belt, responded with a brutal military offensive which caused huge numbers of casualties and only exacerbated the sense of grievance felt by the Chechens. A bitter counter-insurgency war followed and although Russias tactics were regularly criticised in the West, the complaints were muted in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks as Putin began claiming that Russias policy was simply part of the war against global terrorism.
etc etc.
They also have a poll, so you can vote if you like.
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Michael_DeSade
Seattle, WA
OLD SKOOL
SEP 07, 2004 02:36 PM
It's not you saying it, it's just you dispersing it.
Leaving aside the urgent need to begin a political dialogue with the various Chechen groups which are taking part in the armed struggle, Russia desperately needs to overhaul its approach to dealing with terrorist attacks. As the bloody end to the school siege showed, the security forces have little clear concept of anti-terrorist tactics. That much became apparent in October 2002 when Spetsnaz and Alpha special forces stormed a besieged theatre in Moscow where hostages were being held by Chechen terrorists. In the resulting action, nerve gas was used to disable the hostage-takers but there was no antidote and 129 hostages plus 41 terrorists were killed. The operation revealed a lack of realistic planning and a complete absence of any contingency plans. Nobody doubts the courage and professionalism of the Russian special forces, but they operate by a different military ethos in which the result is everything and casualties are simply a by-product of a bloody business.
By the way, the vote results are:
Should Putin share responsibility for the tragedy in Beslan?
Response Votes
Yes 63%
No 37%
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Michael_DeSade
Seattle, WA
OLD SKOOL
SEP 07, 2004 03:15 PM
That has fuck-all to do with you repeating it on the CE boards as validation of your views. The last time I checked, the Sunday Herald wasn't linked to SG, so you are dispersing information to back up your contention that the Russians are bad people because some terrorists killed 300+ people, most of whom were children.
Are the Terrorist responsible for the loss of life?
Yes
and
Yes
No matter how well trained a Hostage Rescue Team is there are times when the the situation just goes all to hell. I think that even Delta Force, the FBI's HRT or even SAS or GSG9 would all have had a hard time in that situation without loss of life.
A school with approximately 1200 hostages is a tatical nightmare.
I don't think the article is saying Putin alone is responsible for the massacre of innocents. I think it's saying that he is responsible for the security situation, for the continuation of a bloody brutal war, even in the face of real chances for peace (such as a referendum which won a popular vote in Chechnya which would have abandoned the claim of true independence but established Chechnya as a "separatist state within Russia," which Putin rejected), and for continually lying to the public and making blatantly false statements to downplay situations like this one in the media.
The terrorists who committed this atrocity are heartless, evil, and callous, and I hope they rot in hell. But that doesn't mean that Putin should get off scott free, especially since this isn't the first time Russian troops have horribly bungled a rescue attempt. There is, understandably, some sense of mistrust within Russia that Putin has the interest of the people in that part of Russia in mind.
dem_z
United Kingdom
June 2004
SEP 07, 2004 02:08 PM