dead children

A child dies every 15 seconds from water-related diseases. This amounts to nearly 6000 deaths, or the equivalent of 20 jumbo jets crashing, every day.
WHO pdf

1.8 million children under the age of five die every year from diarrhoea.

UNICEF

WaterAid - the need

I'd say that killing a school full of kids is bad, but allowing thousands of children to die each day because they don't have clean water is evil.

Do you know how many of your tax dollars are spent fighting 'the war on terrorism' and how many are spent fighting 'the war on poverty'?

do you know how many lives the money you spend on this porn site could save?

the war on terrorism gets more attention because its seen as a threat to everyone, not just the poor.

No, but I'm sure you can tell us. While you're at it, tell us how much money you have spent saving the world's children from dehydration.

Spending money on this porn site doesn't stop me sending money to a charity.

'everyone'? I don't know what dictionary you're using but that's a fucked definition of everyone.

How many people have died in the last five years as a result of terrorist actions?

Give me a number. I don't even need a reputable source, just a thought about guess will do.

I have no idea.

I imagined, what with this being an election year and everything, that the Americans might have some idea what their tax is spent on.

Sorry if you find talking about an issue uncomfortable. There's plenty of threads about Bush's daughters or Kerry's war-records, perhaps you'd prefer those?

speding money on the war on terrorism doesnt stop the government from charity either.

are there parts of the world that arent at threat from terrorist activities? being at threat from terrorists is not dependant on wealth as much as death by water. when something like this is primarily contained to one social class it isnt going to get as much attention, and it shouldnt.

[Edited on Sep 07, 2004 by DrStinkypants]

I'd say that killing a school full of kids is bad, but allowing thousands of children to die each day because they don't have clean water is evil.

I'd say that there's a huge difference between killing something, and not having the means to prevent it's death. This is why the war on terrorism has priority over poor sanitation. That's just the way it goes in this big fucked up world.

I'm not sure much can be done.

In Iraq, Sadaam flooded the south, turning much of it into a foul marsh. If you drive through Nasaryah, yo can see where a street ends cus it was flooded out. Its just foul stagnant water with telephone poles sticking out of it. So friggin bizzare. People were drinking that water. I'm not sure what I could have done to help them, seeing as we didn't even have water for ourselves at the time. Its a difficult problem to tackle. Publicity is what it needs. Of course, in this country (IM in the US) if a celebrity doesn't try to save them, noone else knows they exist.

How much are they spending on charity, and how much are they spending on the war against terrorism?

How many people have died as the result of terrorist action in the past five years? I don't need a reputable source, a guess that you've thought about will do. I'll allow you to include, for example, all the soldiers sent to fight in countries where they are subject to terorist action, even if some of those soldiers died from, say, freindly fire.

Heh, good one. The site needs an irony emoticon.

Wait, you weren't serious, were you?

...because what you're actually saying here sounds a like "terrorism feels like a threat to the *tiny* minority of rich westerners who occupy the planet. And even if it isn't that big a threat, I don't care if the vast majority of poor people get fucked over, so long as I'm all right jack.", but maybe I'm wrong?

bascially yes thats what im saying. if you look at sheer numbers its not 'right'. but you have to expect the US government to take its, and its constituants' interests into mind more so than the interests of the downtrodden in general. honestly, expecting the US to spend a whole lot of money on this sounds a bit communist.
but i agree, i dont have any statistics aside from what youve provided, but at 6000 deaths a day the human cost of unsanitary living conditions is far more than the cost of terrorism. i just think you have to look at more than numbers.

It sounds harsh but the tiny minority of rich westerners are more important than the large number of poor people.

[Edited on Sep 07, 2004 by DrStinkypants]

with that said will these 3rd world countries even accept our assistance...

most of these contries don't have the techno or resourses to assist in creating drinkable water... so from our assistance we "a non-3rd world country not neccessarily US" would probaby have to send over experts... and consider what Idjitt mentioned above... these CHILDREN are raised to hate... i know i personally wouldn't feel comfortable in a country where i am there to help, but still haveing to look over my shoulder....

do these countries even want "OUR" help? consider that... do they want to tell their children's children, "we were saved by those contemptable westeners?" and i don't think that will change anytime soon... contempt for the western world is driven deep into those countries...

Thanks for that, I do find stuff like this interesting.

Generally I like links even if they're at a bit of a tangent to the thread.

EDIT: THANKS for that first link! It's really interesting.

[Edited on Sep 07, 2004 by demetrius_z]

(Big snip of DrStinkypants' quote)



Well, I have nothing more to contribute to this thread.

i wasn't trying to say helping is bad... i would dig it if the rest of the world was a well off as north america, and most of europe... i was just asking do you honestly believe our assistance will be accepted by a majority? especially the leadership, sadam was/is not the only "evil" leader in southern asia many countries there have utter contempt... theirs is not a vocal, however


editted to say...

i'm glad to see you start a thread for discussion, then when you run into opposision you drop some emoticons... and sulk away... i wish there was an emoticon that was sobbing...

[Edited on Sep 07, 2004 by unfoundrockstar]

Actually, our pets are more important.

WaterAid

[Edited on Sep 07, 2004 by demetrius_z]

Guy, you have some serious issues.

Guess what ? You can't save the fucking world. People die.

get over it.

True, but we do have the highest infant mortality rate in the industrialized world, which is nothing short of amazing.

Can I quote you on that?

Whats wrong with people dying?

I'm glad you took that the right way, what I'm more concerned about is sustaining six billion people a first world standards.