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Patrick_Lasswell

Patrick_Lasswell

Portland, OR
January 2003

SEP 03, 2004 03:40 PM

An Associated Press story about President Bush's wishes for former President Clinton's speedy recovery had to be changed today.

WEST ALLIS, Wis. - President Bush on Friday wished Bill Clinton "best wishes for a swift and speedy recovery."

"He's is in our thoughts and prayers," Bush said at a campaign rally. Bush's audience of thousands in West Allis, Wis., booed. Bush did nothing to stop them. [Emphasis added.]


Some of Bush's inaction was later explained by reviews of recordings and eyewitness reports that clearly showed that the crowd did not boo. In fact, the crowd applauded in support of the President's concern. The AP reporter made the negative crowd reaction up.

This is just incredibly stupid behavior. The lie was readily checked and bound to be caught. The results of this kind of stupidity is not merely being fired, but also eroding the industry in which you work and promoting the candidate you just attempted to smear.

Hat Tip: Allah

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

SEP 03, 2004 03:57 PM

Yup. Changed to read " The crowd reacted with applause and with some "ooohs," apparently surprised by the news that Clinton was ill."

Glad they changed that travesty of journalism, and I hope they fired the reporter who wrote the original story. "OOOOOOOOOOH" is much more believable than "BOOOOOO." Republicans sure wouldn't do something as knee-jerk and awful as booing the name of a president they hated even when he was ill or handing out bandaids with purple hearts on them to make fun of a decorated Vietnam Vet.

I'm sure the correction of this grave "ooooooh vs boooooo" error will greatly affect people's views of Republicans and of George Bush in general in a positive way.

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

SEP 03, 2004 04:13 PM

Shalome said:
Yup. Changed to read " The crowd reacted with applause and with some "ooohs," apparently surprised by the news that Clinton was ill."

Glad they changed that travesty of journalism, and I hope they fired the reporter who wrote the original story. "OOOOOOOOOOH" is much more believable than "BOOOOOO." Republicans sure wouldn't do something as knee-jerk and awful as booing the name of a president they hated even when he was ill or handing out bandaids with purple hearts on them to make fun of a decorated Vietnam Vet.

I'm sure the correction of this grave "ooooooh vs boooooo" error will greatly affect people's views of Republicans and of George Bush in general in a positive way.



Come on, only Democrats ever act badly. tongue

Patrick_Lasswell

Patrick_Lasswell

Portland, OR
January 2003

SEP 03, 2004 04:14 PM

Shalome,

I'm sure the correction of this grave "ooooooh vs boooooo" error will greatly affect people's views of Republicans and of George Bush in general in a positive way.



It's more of a case of libel. If somebody writes that you spit on a prominent figure's grave when you didn't, you seek redress. This isn't a perception problem, this about what you let people say and write about you and your friends.

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

SEP 03, 2004 04:33 PM

Patrick_Lasswell said:
Shalome,

I'm sure the correction of this grave "ooooooh vs boooooo" error will greatly affect people's views of Republicans and of George Bush in general in a positive way.



It's more of a case of libel. If somebody writes that you spit on a prominent figure's grave when you didn't, you seek redress. This isn't a perception problem, this about what you let people say and write about you and your friends.



Funny that your dedication to honesty and integrity surfaces only after the Exquisite Corpse fiction festival that was the GOP Convention.

And incidentally Pat, the crowds reaction was disputed, not proven. What appears on the feed in not a representation of what happened in the hall. All we know is that some people in the crowd cheered, and that's crediting a web meme.

SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

SEP 03, 2004 05:10 PM

To be proven in court Libel needs proof of intent. If this was not on purpose you can't sue for libel.

Plus you have to show actual damages to a specific person, a "crowd of people" can't sue someone because no one specific person was mentioned by name as yelling "boooo"

jholtsnider

jholtsnider

I'm lost
February 2004

SEP 03, 2004 05:20 PM

What liberal media? whatever

dingoes8

dingoes8

Milwaukee, WI
March 2004

SEP 03, 2004 05:25 PM

West Allis is pretty skanky, I could see them booing. Perhaps some people in the section by the reporter did, and that's all he heard. Of course Bush wouldn't respond to a few hecklers way in the back. Or maybe the reporter was lying, I dunno.

Anyways, I'm sure it was manufactured concern, I doubt he cares at all about Clinton's health.

And I wouldn't care about Bushh not stopping a booing crowd. Anytime he breaks away from the script, bad things happen. He's learning.

[Edited on Sep 03, 2004 by dingoes8]

SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

SEP 03, 2004 05:35 PM

slimjim said:
What liberal media? whatever





[Edited on Sep 03, 2004 by SirPsychoSexy]

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

SEP 03, 2004 05:44 PM

If it were a Democratic president saying that about a Republican ex-President, you can bet the story that the mention of the ex-President's name was booed lustily would be all over the right-wing blogs in 10 seconds, and would never die. Like the lie that Paul Wellstone's funeral was a partisan rally and Republicans there were booed, neither of which is proven by actually watching the damn thing.

Lain

Lain

Astoria, NY
April 2004

SEP 03, 2004 05:56 PM

There goes that guys job.

I was told Bill was in the hosptial. Kinda bummed me out

But what sucked

My father was rushed to the ER today around 2 cause had abdominal pain. I hope my popps is ok. frown

Get well soon Dad and Bill

CrackRockColin

CrackRockColin

Atlanta, GA
March 2004

SEP 03, 2004 06:15 PM

wow, i never really thought it was true. is this evidence of a slightly liberal media?

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

SEP 03, 2004 08:27 PM

CrackRockColin said:
wow, i never really thought it was true. is this evidence of a slightly liberal media?



No, it's evidence of an unnamed AP wire reporter who thought "oooooooooh" sounded like "boooooooo."

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

SEP 03, 2004 08:33 PM

Shalome said:

CrackRockColin said:
wow, i never really thought it was true. is this evidence of a slightly liberal media?



No, it's evidence of an unnamed AP wire reporter who thought "oooooooooh" sounded like "boooooooo."



Actually, I heard the audio on NPR this afternoon when they reported that Clinton was in the hospital. I didn't even hear an "oooooh" at all...but then, I don't know what it sounded like live, and I don't know how far the NPR mic was from the action. Still, you'd have to be pretty fucking deaf to have not heard the cheering.

Patrick_Lasswell

Patrick_Lasswell

Portland, OR
January 2003

SEP 03, 2004 08:49 PM

SPS,

Plus you have to show actual damages to a specific person, a "crowd of people" can't sue someone because no one specific person was mentioned by name as yelling "boooo"



Class-Action lawsuit claiming defamation of character for the town?

The reporter should have checked with others around him if he thought the crowd boo'ed Clinton. Whatever you think of flyover country Republicans, they generally show compassion to the sick, especially in public, and always when the President they LOVE tells them to.

Please try to wrap your brain around the concept that there are a lot of people, very likely not where you hang out, who greatly respect George W. Bush.

If the reporter who wrote the story was incapable of wrapping his brain around that simple fact, he should never have been covering the President, and his editor should also be fired for assigning that intolerant an individual to covering Bush's campaign. As well as for not picking up on the unlikeliness of a campaign rally repudiating their candidate, and not checking the facts.

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

SEP 03, 2004 09:07 PM

It's scandalous, isn't it? Worst part is this account is going to be picked up and distributed around the country and the globe, but the correction will be buried on page A16 or something.

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

SEP 03, 2004 09:29 PM

Patrick_Lasswell said:
SPS,
Plus you have to show actual damages to a specific person, a "crowd of people" can't sue someone because no one specific person was mentioned by name as yelling "boooo"



Class-Action lawsuit claiming defamation of character for the town?




Uhhhhh... no.

The reporter should have checked with others around him if he thought the crowd boo'ed Clinton. Whatever you think of flyover country Republicans, they generally show compassion to the sick, especially in public, and always when the President they LOVE tells them to.



Uhhhhh... no.

Please try to wrap your brain around the concept that there are a lot of people, very likely not where you hang out, who greatly respect George W. Bush.



Sadly, this is actually true. What they respect him for is still a mystery.

If the reporter who wrote the story was incapable of wrapping his brain around that simple fact, he should never have been covering the President,



Its not the reporters job to acknowledge your cultural and political bias regarding what you think is likely to have happened. It is the reporters job to report what he or she observes. What got picked up by a directional mike on the podium is subjective; you've not evidence to refute the claim save that. Finally given that your heartland empaths spent the last week cheering lustily for a chickenhawk ticket wearing band aids to mock a decorated veteran lapping up lie after distortion with gusto I think its safe to say that your depictions and assertions are a tiny bit disingenuous.

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

SEP 03, 2004 09:30 PM

stockula said:
It's scandalous, isn't it? Worst part is this account is going to be picked up and distributed around the country and the globe, but the correction will be buried on page A16 or something.



Well, thats about where they bury the Bush corrections.

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

SEP 03, 2004 09:43 PM

I heard the same NPR report as Bean, and can pretty much confirm his recounting of the segment. I didn't hear any booing, but that'd hardly prove that there wasn't any anywhere in the hall.

Where the story goes awry was reporting that Bush didn't do anything to stop it. I doubt he would or could have noticed it, given the overall volume of Republicans cheering for Bill Clinton's failing heart.

Isadore

Isadore

HOPEFUL

Mesa, AZ

SEP 03, 2004 09:49 PM

slimjim said:
What liberal media? whatever



No shit!! It's all controlled now!! eeek

SRBuell

SRBuell

Rancho Cordova, CA
May 2004

SEP 03, 2004 09:55 PM

Wait, were they saying boo, or buu-urns?

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

I'm lost
November 2003

SEP 03, 2004 10:57 PM

This is the kind of thing you get worked up about? Seriously? If this is all the evidence you have a "liberal media" bias you better keep do some more research. I love how you cite an anonymous Freeper as a credible "eyewitness."

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

SEP 03, 2004 11:09 PM

Two words: Paul Wellstone.

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

SEP 03, 2004 11:31 PM

Keith said:
Two words: Paul Wellstone.



I'm not quite sure what the intent of this is, but those of us who actually watched the memorial will note that the "booing" in question was virtually inaudible on the audio. It is only the reaction shot of the crowd, zoomed in on the tiny proportion of the crowd that gave it context. Many cheered, a very few booed, and Patrick's heros made hash of it for weeks. It was bullshit then as this is bullshit now. Its manufactured indignation.

From the AP:

"The crowd's booing of Lott was difficult to hear on television but obvious to reporters there. The event was featured prominently on the national news, and conservative pundits seized on the spectacle."

Hence my skepticism.

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

SEP 03, 2004 11:36 PM

reprobate said:

Keith said:
Two words: Paul Wellstone.



I'm not quite sure what the intent of this is, but those of us who actually watched the memorial will note that the "booing" in question was virtually inaudible on the audio. It is only the reaction shot of the crowd, zoomed in on the tiny proportion of the crowd that gave it context. Many cheered, a very few booed, and Patrick's heros made hash of it for weeks. It was bullshit then as this is bullshit now. Its manufactured indignation.

From the AP:

"The crowd's booing of Lott was difficult to hear on television but obvious to reporters there. The event was featured prominently on the national news, and conservative pundits seized on the spectacle."

Hence my skepticism.



Exactly. I'm talking about glass houses and stones, etc.

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