NEWS: Jews Harassed at Auschwitz

POLITICS: Jews Harassed at Auschwitz

It's not true that everyone who criticizes Israel is anti-Semitic. But it's a safe bet to say everyone who is anti-Semitic hates Israel.

This sure took a lot of nerve.

As one of the tour participants noted, it looks like some people don't go to Auschwitz to mourn. They find themselves drawn to it for other reasons.

that's just insane. if someone would have pulled some shit like this when i visited Dachau, it's a safe bet that they wouldn't have made it back to their cars.

Yes, people are assholes. Is this news?

And I'm sorry, but the title of this thread is hilarious.

50 students were antagonized by 3 pricks? I would think the headline would have read:

"Racists pummeled by student tour group".

Wow.

Is it really important that these assailants were from france? What difference does that make? The fact is they are people who have very wrong attitudes and should be educated accordingly.

I'm sorry, I just think implicit generalizations of culture used when talking about hate against other cultures is kind of silly.

i was thinking the same thing. i think mentality takes precedence of nationality in this one.

that's disgusting.

Sorry to say, but the French have a strong history of passive-agressive anti-Semitism. They rarely start the big fights, but like a whiny weasel they are always there as a nation to cheer on any major group that is outwardly anti-Semetic or anti-Israel. It's simply a historical fact.

Does that mean all the French are anti-Semitic? Nope. But their government is filled with pro-Muslim/anti-Semitic loons. And anyone remember when that loon Jean-Marie Le Pen (Front Nationale) almost made it to the ballot in French elections a few years back? And how about all those attacks against synagogues in Europe? Why, most of them happened in France.

Mentioning the nationality of the pricks who did this is entirely valid. It's a reflection on French society in general that these asses can not only feel comfortable in their anti-Semetism, but they have the BALLS to go to Auschwitz and act like that.

I don't think all Sudanese are genocidal loons, but it's obvious the atmosphere of the leadership there is allowing genocide to occur.

In this case, the one place on earth Jews should be given unquestionable respect and these fucking kids act like dicks. And they wonder why they are hated.

Said it before, I'll say it again. Fuck the French.

Kind of what I was thinking. Obviously being racist means you can't count either.

amen royal

What? No Stockula to rip into the French yet?

I guess he's out celebrating the anniversary of the bombing of Nagasaki.

where the hell did that come from? has stockula changed username?

and if you're going to ignore the point ahriman was making, why quote him. and despite starting your argument off with "Does that mean all the French are anti-Semitic? Nope", you end up reaching that exact conclusion.

I think that would've been a better story.

Unintentional understatement, yes indeed.

I was in Paris the day he lost to Chirac. He doesn't just hate Jews. He hates Arabs, Americans, and everyone else who isn't French, White, and Right. And he did actually make the ballot. He got second place in the first round of elections. He actually beat the leftist candidate, so the second round of votes was between candidates of the mainstream right and the whackjob right.


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I'm really hoping that that's not a generalization Sean.

Ponce.

This criticism is coming from the same genius who claimed that saying Jordanians who were held hostage by terrorists was an exagerration. Like they were going to behead them to pay off their Visa bill. LOL! I'm all for understanding the "other side" but at a certain point denying that kidnappers who threaten to behead are terrorists and that France DOES have an anti-Semtic problem is simply being in denial.

Also, the contradiction in what I said can be explained very simply. If I meet someone and they tell me they are French, I'm not biased against them on a personal level. But as a nation France has HUGE race issues. And when I hear about a bunch of assholes pulling shit like this AND they are French? Give me a break. How they hell were they raised to act that way? And who is to blame? Nature vesus nuture of course. But France historically seems to nuture the kind of passive agressive anti-Semitism and racism that exists there. There's something about France that is just a bit twisted.

Let me spell it out to you this way. It takes balls to criticize someone for wearing an Israeli--or any nations--flag anywhere. It take a sick amount of balls to do that to Israeli students on a trip. And it takes unbelievable balls to do what they did at Auschwitz.

Said it before and I'll say it again, your rush to moral equivalency gives creedence to those who committed the real harm in each of these cases. Please go back to studying film and leave reality to the rest of us.

Hey, how about you take a trip through the chunnel and film some "Front National" rallies, or attacks on Syangogues in France. It might be a great student project and open your eyes a bit. Learn about the other side. Eat their delicious food and wonder at their creative genius. And then realize that in the middle of all of that, there is racial hate right under the surface that is really quite sick.

Do some research on the Vichy government in World War II, La Pen's rise in politcal power, and general anti-Semitism that pervades France and then you'll understand why the nationality of these racists is important.

[Edited on Aug 09, 2004 8:05PM]

I never said he just hates Jews, but the fact a prick like that was able to rise to any level of note is simply sick. Considering Frances quetsionable role in World War II--on the one hand wanting help from the Allies, on the other propping up the Nazi influenced Vichy government--it's simply sick that would happen.

At least cuties like Julie Deply makes me appreciate the good that France can create.

[Edited on Aug 09, 2004 7:53PM]

Yeah, it would've been a lot funnier if they'd ended up like the flasher who got his ass kicked by school girls.

and america doesn't???

there is no rush to anything, i'm merely pointing out that sometimes opinions have to be based on fact rather than prejudice, like yours are.

your notion of reality is way off. i'm annoyed i have to put you in your place again as regards what i do, but my course, or whatever it is that you do, has nothing to do with how relevant our opinions are. how dare you attempt to silence me over such an irrelevancy. this is a site for all opinions, so if people like me didn't have to constantly point out how wrong you are all the time, the boards would be filled with the xenophobic bullshit you spew back and forth.

i used to live in france. i know more about french culture and politics than you evidently display. you should perhaps heed your own advice, and take a look from the other side.

one of your favourite justifications for being allowed to talk about the war is that you needed to see action first hand. taking that rationale, when was the last time you went to france? evens says you've never been, because it shows through your transparent bullshit.

yeah, I have to agree with this. it doesnt mean that people from france are evil or that they all hate jews but it MAY show a growing problem. My parents recently returned from france and said that they had noticed rising anti-semetic tendencies, and that it concerned them. now they may have been overacting or misunderstanding something they saw on the news, but it wouldnt surprise me if it WAS a problem, most major countries in europe have had some problem with jews at some point in the not too distant past.