No French, please we're Democrats.

One of the things I really love about Democrats is how when they go onto national venues, they have to put on a different face for the American people than the one they share among themselves at fundraisers and discussion boards.

What do I mean? Things like pretending they like hunting, believe in god, aren't going to raise your taxes by hook or by crook, and are serious about maintaining a strong national defense.

But the main thing the Democrats are worried about showing is their demented furious rage and hatred they have towards smilin' George Bush. Well, that, and their candidate's Frenchness.

Talk of France is not welcome

Asian drummers, exotic dancers, Mediterranean canapes: the $1.6 million pre-convention party for delegates seemed more like a United Nations summit than an American political get-together.

"We wanted to show that Boston was no longer just a place of rich white families who have lived here for centuries," said organisers.

Given that John Forbes Kerry's bloodstock dates back to John Winthrop, the first governor of Massachusetts, that made sense.

But the Republican "counter-attack dogs" would surely have noticed a word in huge letters on the back wall: "Bienvenu".

French is the ultimate no-no for this convention. The Republicans have pummelled Kerry's French connections to exploit heartland anti-Gallic sentiment over Iraq.

Kerry's team has imposed an unofficial ban on interviews in French. The chances of "bienvenu" appearing at the main convention centre are as remote as a guest appearance by the ultimate Democratic bogeyman, vice-president Dick Cheney.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/26/wus426.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/07/26/ixnewstop.html


[Edited on Jul 26, 2004 by stockula]

qui s'inquiète?

then why are they serving canapes?

So out of the hundred-something million democrats you seriously believe there are none that actually believe in god or like hunting?

You're mental.

This really seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

If he presents any french behavior, he gets lambasted for it, if he doesn't, he gets lambasted for restricting it.

I'll be much more interested to hear if dems are prevented from holding too virulent anti-bush signs, or maybe escorted from the premises for presenting an image that doesn't jive with what the dnc wants to air on TV.

im always curious whether or not these frothing republicans realize that their candidate is just as bad. Politics in America in general are shot to shit at this point so I choose the lesser of two evils, the one that didnt steal an election to begin with.

while i wouldn't dream of begrudging you a chance to bash Kerry's french heritage, let me just say this:

pot to kettle: you're black.

you raise hell about the two-faced antics of the democrats while your beloved leader went on and on about all sorts of things that he promptly let fall through the floor as soon as he had his back turned. what might these be, pray tell?

1) "i am not in the business of nation building" hoo. ha.

2) no child left behind. except for the drastic cuts in education funding to public schools, ridiculous standardized testing procedures, and free giveaways to private, religious institutions.

3) "i am a war president. when i make decisions, it's with war in mind" kind of hard to do, when you've never been in one, eh?

4) on the topic of war, where did all those hard-working veterans' benefits go? oh that's right! there had to be some "tightening of the belt" to pay for...

5) enormous tax cuts for the upper crust, when Dubya is all about the "Common Man" he is a people president...right.

6) "our country is safer now" well, how is that when you've cut funding for first responders and for hoemland security in general? funny, ain't it?

7) my personal favourite: "major combat operations in Iraq are over. Mission Accomplished!" good job on that.

8) wait! weren't we supposed to be on mars? oh that's right, there's no fucking money for it!

9) "i will uphold the ban on assault rifles. no wait, i won't. ha ha!"

10) "our new prescription drugs card will revolutionized the healthcare system!" not to mention confusing the hell out of anyone who bothers to find which one of the 150 different ones to use, and lining the pockets of big pharma mightily...

i could go on, but you get the idea.

guess we know who says one thing and does another, eh?.

Wow, what credible links...how fair and balanced.

[Edited on Jul 26, 2004 by Raoul_Duke]

assume you meant stock, since i have none...cuz i'm lazy...

there's an interesting story on that question today in Slate:

http://www.slate.com/id/2104292/

the first rule of an election that involves a sitting president is that it's a referendum on the incumbent. This election, however, has turned out to be the opposite. It's a referendum on the challenger. Kerry probably isn't responsible for this turn of events, but he's benefiting from it: The referendum on the incumbent is over. President Bush already lost it. This presidential campaign isn't about whether the current president deserves a second term. It's about whether the challenger is a worthy replacement.

So, even though there are supposed to be only five persuadable voters left in America, I'm inclined to think that the next four nights will be worth watching. Can the Democrats re-enact the successful 2000 Republican convention, a parade of moderation and diversity that convinced the nation that George W. Bush was a decent fellow who could be trusted with the levers of power? Four years ago, partisan Republicans were so consumed by Clinton hatred that they would shriek ecstatically every time Bush said he would "uphold the honor and dignity of the office." They channeled their rage into pragmatism: After eight years of Clinton, GOP primary voters wanted to beat Al Gore so badly that they rallied around Bush months before the primaries began, based on nothing more than the fact that he seemed electable. They made a calculated bet that Bush was a guy who would sell well, and they were right.

Now it's the Democrats' turn to see if their similar gamble will have a similar payoff. But I wonder if this convention will be as restrained as the one Republicans held four years ago. There's a big-name loose cannon on the bill on each of the first three nights: On Monday it's Al Gore; on Tuesday it's Howard Dean; and on Wednesday it's Wesley Clark. Each one is smart, beloved by a portion of the party, and capable of rhetorical sobriety. They're also all capable of going off the deep end.

whooooooooooooooooooosh!!!!

and he's gone!!!!

Yeah...I think someone who hates Michael Moore but loves Drudge is kinda funny. I had to compare those links to foxnews...where's the onion's opinion?

[Edited on Jul 26, 2004 by Raoul_Duke]

See, I KNEW you'd be around here somewhere stockula ... (we're waiting for you back in your other thread).

Somehow, I don't think that guy is a delegate.

No...

They all look like damn hippie scum to me.

it's easy to tell... The delegates have ties stuffed into their back pockets.

I think that Stockula is still trying to get over the concept of French Indochina and Charles De Gaulle pulling troops out of NATO.

Let me tell you Stockula. That was over thirty years ago. Get over it.

And for all of those "Freedom Fries" and "Freedom Toast" fanatics out there, please remember that the Statue of Liberty is a gift from France.

And I thought Conservatives didn't like Political Correctness? I guess I made a mistake.

Unfortunately, though, Shrub can't even admit that he made one. He hasn't admitted he made a mistake for not reading his Aug. 6th PBD with the title, "Bin Laden determined to attack in the U.S." or for 900+ of our brave American men and women dying in Iraq for a pack of lies.

As Michael Moore said, "Pardon my Falluja!"

*Edited for clarity*

[Edited on Jul 27, 2004 by Holden_Caulfield]

yes, yes they do

Holden_Caulfield said:
I think that Stockula is still trying to get over the concept of French Indochina and Charles De Gaulle pulling troops out of NATO.



Whats the Concept of French Indochina ????

at least they should have spelled "bienvenuE" correctly