Israel's Continuing Atrocities

Illustrating how professionals attack demonstrators, Israeli helicopters and tanks fired into a crowd of Palestinian protesters, killing at least ten people and wounding fifty.

Over 3,000 Palestinians had gathered to protest to the Israeli invasion of the Tel Sultan neighborhood of the Rafah refugee camp. The Israeli’s have killed dozens of Palestinians, and razed homes, and have begun
rounding up males over the age of sixteen, despite a continuing international outcry.

The Israeli military denied firing into the crowd deliberately. But in case no one bought that explanation, they also tried to justify firing into the crowd; it is best to make sure all of your bases are covered when committing war crimes:

The United States urged Israel to show “restraint.” Then promptly attacked an Iraqi wedding killing 45 people, according to numerous witnesses, Pot, Kettle, Black. The US claims it attacked a military target.

Unfortunately for the US, it lacks the credibility to convice even its own puppets:

This is one of the best written stories I've seen on the newswire, thank you.

I saw a BBC news report of Israeli tanks and bulldozers demolishing houses in the Gaza strip, with people still in them and families trying to grab whatever they could and fleeing. Then I saw Israeli officials claiming this was being done for "security reasons".

[Edited on May 20, 2004 by AceTracer]

You guys are going to upset Sean, Souljacker and UpTight by pointing this stuff out. Can't you see that the Emporer's new clothes are beautiful?

There were probably terrorists living in the houses. It is well documented that the Arab terrorists hide amongst innocent civilians. Do you believe everything you read? Naive.

Don't say I didn't warn you

This story was on the front page of The Independent yesterday.

If a terrorist slams on your door with an AK47 around his neck, and forces you to harbor him, should the government be allowed to tear down your house?

[Edited on May 20, 2004 by AceTracer]

it is so "easy" to have a bash at Israel defending itself.
I don't see nearly as many "excellent" stories about terrorists getting into buses full of kids going to school or exploding themselves at peak hours in market places... and terrorists are known to hide themselves amid civilians, dig tunnels in homes and use appartments with families inside to have a shoot out at some kibboutz...

"funny", no one seems to mention that israeli lady who was drag out of her car 10 days ago, with her 3 underaged kids, and they were shoot on the spot by very, very courageous terrorists defending their life....

what will it take some people to realize there's a WAR going on in Israel ?

This isn't the way it happens and you know it. You have no rational defense for your ignorant support of terrorists and terrorist groups so you resort to irrelevant hypothetical questions. You wanna flatter yourself into believing you are some sort of high-minded liberal thinker so you have abandoned all critical thought and logic in favor of swallowing whatever any questionable media source feeds you. I'd suggest you staying off the CE board and going back to your obsequious brown-nosing and proclaiming of your virginity elsewhere.

Israel wants to withdraw completely from Gaza, however it will not help to create a state riddled with psychopathic, genocidal terrorists on its own doorstep. So before an Israeli withdarwal can happen, the terrorists & their bases need to be wiped out.

What we are seeing now is the demoliltion of houses used as terrorist encampments - many with tunnels used as weapons conduits.

Israel have given the Palestinians years to solve the terrorism issue. Surely it must be OBVIOUS to anyone with more than one brain cell that the Palestinian Authorities don't care about terrorism. In fact Arafat's Fatah group have their own terrorist wing the Al Asqa Martyr Brigade. Why would they do anything about the terrorists in Gaza. As Arafat won't clear them out, Israel has to.

If the Palestinians want to blame anyone it should be Arafat - the biggest obstacle between them and their homeland.

It is only easy because the severity of the war crimes being committed by Israel means that there are lots of atrocities that can be pointed out. In what universe is it acceptable for a government to fire tank shells and missiles into a demonstration? The fact that my tax dollars are funding Israeli atrocities and not the those of Palestinian terrorists, makes me morally obligated to speak out against them.

I wish someone would kill Arafat tomorrow so that people would be forced to find another excuse and face up to the situation.

Yeah, our old buddy arafat.

In a televised speech from the West Bank town of Ramallah, Arafat urged his people to remain steadfast.

"Find what strength you have to terrorize your enemy and the enemy of God," he said, quoting the Quran. "And if they want peace, then let's have peace."

Eh, I dunno, But that says to me 'encouraging terrorism'.

Israel does plenty of bad stuff, but they do it because they have to to protect themselves. I don't blame them for not being to keen about being pushed into the sea.

Wow. So I'm just a terrorist-loving ass-kissing virgin, I feel so enlightened.

Anytime I hear somebody whine about "my tax dollars" it's a sure bet they barely pay any taxes and are enjoying all the benefits of our great free society while crying like a baby over any grievance they can dream up. Guess what? I bet they don't pay fucking taxes over in the Palestinian areas you're so interested in. Why don't you move there, Mr. Arafat?

that's disgraceful - I never knew you were a VIRGIN!

No, you're anything but enlightened. You're actually quite ill-informed, humorless and annoying. Other than that, you're a good guy.

Awww, I knew it, you DO love me!!!

oh good, i thought for a second you had some real ethical issues about this


jjs III

The only one defending terrorists here are those like you who embrace the state terror of the Israeli governments’ collective punishment of the Palestinian people. You seem incapable of understanding the differences between those criticizing Israel’s occupation and brutal, degrading and inhuman treatment of Palestinians and supporting for terrorism, which might explain why you think that all Palestinians are terrorists, or at least should be treated like one.

You would make a far better fit in the Likud party, Mr. Sharon, than I would in the PA. I actually detest Arafat who is an authoritarian autocrat with no respect for human rights or democracy.

I always love the way these politico-posts go pretty much in the toilet with bashing.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion so here is mine:

I don't know about you but I don't know what it feels like to be constantly affraid of a suicide bomber or terrorist. Yeah sure 9/11 but it still feels like something distant that will never happen to me. The closest thing I have to feel threatened is ol' Jim Bob getting drunk and want to start a fight. What does it feel like to be constantlt in mortal terror?

I can't condone actions like firing into a crowd and you can't condone it as a tit for tat act because of suicide bombers. But Isreal has a right to defend herself from all enemies.

You can't really believe anthing to read or hear about on the news. There is never going to be a completely unbias news media in the world. Those same pictures of Isreali bulldovers mowing over houses as people run away from them could easily have pictures of Hamas or Hezzbolla members running out with AKs and RPGs but that might not be such a great story so they;ll edit that part out....they didn't lie a la Jayson Blair but still didn't report the whole truth.

The truth is Isreal needs to just shoot Afarat.

Way to avoid my comment, Mr. Taxpayer. As soon as the Palestinians stop strapping bombs to children I'll stop calling them terrorists.


[Edited on May 20, 2004 by souljacker]

You may want to learn the difference between morals and ethics before trying to have a conversation about either.