Cops Gone Wild: L.A.P.D. Edition

Surprised no one brought it up on here yet. In case any of you were wondering Here is the uncensored, unredacted manifesto of Christopher Jordan Dorner, explaining why he did what he did. Not that initiating violence here, and going all "Rambo", is ever acceptable. But I get the feeling that the only "Good Guys" in this story, are the innocent people who were shot.

I don't want to imply that I'm at all okay with trying to kill anyone because you got fired, but I'd be significantly less not-okay with this if Dorner had actually stuck to killing cops, rather than going after cops' families. That, more than anything else, completely delegitimizes his rampage.

Of course, the LAPD seems to be working really hard to make sure it doesn't garner any sympathy. During their manhunt and protective details, they've shot up two civilian vehicles so far. Luckily, nobody got killed.

Ahhhh....yes. It's nice to see that good old "fuck the pigs" sentiment roll around. The attitude already displayed here is pretty disgusting. "I'm not saying I condone summary execution...but I don't NOT kinda...in theory....maybe.....feel bad about it."

My question is: how did this guy pass the psychological evaluation and get hired in the first place?

Simple....the depth of psychological analysis is nothing more than a CYA measure by the department. Having myself gone through the process (very brief stint in the NYPD) it's VERY much a case of " will this guy start shooting fellow cadets at the academy?" As opposed to "does this person possess the mental toughness necessary to do this job w/o cracking up at some point?"

The sheer size of the department makes a "real" psych eval almost impossible. Before the NYPD, I took and passed the entrance exam for my small hometown PD. that was an in-depth comprehensive psych examination that took a couple hours.

My psych eval in the NYPD? 20 minutes.

I think we've been around this psych eval block before. Given reports about his focus and determination, he may have been exactly what they were looking for.

Also, psychological problems aren't always prevalent at the time of employment and may manifest sometime afterward.

Very true. Things like schizophrenia sometimes don't surface until people are in their late 20's. Suffering a major head trauma can trigger personality disorders. For example, the guy my ex-wife dated before me was in a bad car wreck which left him in a coma for a few months. Afterwards, he became prone to violent outbursts and fits of rage. Not to mention all the stories coming out about former-NFL players with issues related to multiple concussions.

I don't think anyone here is saying that, to my reading they're more saying that his "excuse" doesn't really fly since he's killed people not even involved with the PD, and that the PD isn't exactly going out of their way to make themselves look like innocent victims. Surely you don't think this was handled in the best manner? It's a far cry going from saying the only people innocent in this situation are the civilians who were shot, to "fuck the pigs." I am very pro-PD, but I am also very anti-corruption and anti-shooting-people-who-happen-to-be-delivering-newspapers-in-the-same-area.

That manifesto was all over the place. My favorite part was the compliment to Mrs. Obama's new bangs, followed by

Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the fact that he's going after civilians makes it significantly worse. I'm also pointing out that the LAPD's response has been utter clownshoes.

Especially when everyone hates you for being a cop.


Edited to clarify I am not talking about anyone I this thread or board specifically but the general opinion of cops I hear day to day.

Having that much distrust, suspicion and malice thrown your way on a day to day basis can't exactly be good for a persons mental state.

Well, I mean, good god. It's not like they're going to be shooting Hellfires everywhere. This is California, not a Pakistani wedding party.

Get yours while supplies last!

That reads less like a manifesto to me and more like an explanatory rant. Too bad he had to go out this way, especially considering it won't change anything in the department.

LOOK OUT HE'S GOT A CAN OF TEA

While my first response to hearing about that was fear of a short, slippery slope towards a creepy, dystopian future, I can see the sense in it. One, drones don't necessarily mean huge predator drones full of missiles flying thousands of feet up. It could also mean small quad-rotor helicopters with guns on them. Two, with his apparent passion for killing [at least some of] the police, he could very well be eagerly awaiting the arrival of the SWAT team with his finger on the detonator of some IEDs. If they're going to take him down anyway, I don't see the point in throwing more lives away [on top of his] while storming his position.

The worries of my first response to the news still linger in the back of my mind, though.

This is all just speculating on general questions of whether it's right or wrong on principle, as drones may or may not be in use in any capacity for this manhunt anyhow, and might not be used for an offensive even if they are.

LL Cool J has been advised to remain indoors.

I don't believe that police forces in the US are using armed drones (yet). They're still working up the nerve to even put tasers or beanbag guns on drones, much less firearms, much much much less missiles and the like.

Sorry to anyone who disagrees, but having been wrongfully terminated from a job for being a whistle blower myself, I understand well and relate completely to this letter. I think he covered the facts of his situation in detail clearly. I think he expects that he will be killed by police rather than arrested and so in some respects it's kind of a "suicide letter" of sorts. There was a lot he wanted to say and while it may seem convoluted and incoherent I think he didn't want to forget to mention anyone or anything that was important to him.

Do I agree with going postal? No. Do I think it's right to kill anyone, innocent or allegedly guilty? No. But I understand the pressure he was subjected to during the termination process. I understand what it's like to sit in an internal "investigation" presenting facts to the panel that are ignored in order to protect themselves from lawsuits. To be lied upon, slandered, and degraded. You want retribution. You want some form of justice meted upon those who wronged you. And to be honest, currently there seems to be no proper channels to vent this type of frustration. No court of public opinion that will hear your case and reinstate your integrity.

I understand while he felt this was his only option, although it isn't. I think he needed a way to find to move on with his life. It wasn't easy for me, but I found a way.

That "manifesto" is just....wow.

SWAT is assaulting the cabin now. Cabin appears to be on fire.