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mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

SEP 07, 2012 11:34 AM

World's richest woman is delusional.


SYDNEY — The world's richest woman, Australian mining tycoon Gina Rinehart, urged those "jealous" of the wealthy to "spend less time drinking" in a piece the government described as "insulting" on Thursday.
Rinehart, whose family iron ore prospecting fortune of Aus$29.2 billion (US$30.1 billion) also makes her Australia's wealthiest person, hit out at those who she said were envious of the rich.
"There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire," she wrote in an industry magazine column.
"If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain. Do something to make more money yourself -- spend less time drinking or smoking and socialising, and more time working.
"Become one of those people who work hard, invest and build, and at the same time create employment and opportunities for others."
Rinehart blamed what she described as "socialist", anti-business policies for the plight of Australia's poor, urging the government to lower the minimum wage, as well as taxes, unless it wanted to end up like Greece.
"The terrible millionaires and billionaires can often invest in other countries... maybe their teenagers don't get the cars they wanted, or a better beach house or or maybe the holiday to Europe is cut short, but otherwise life goes on," she wrote.
"The millionaires and billionaires who choose to invest in Australia are actually those who most help the poor and our young. This secret needs to be spread widely."
But senior ministers including Treasurer Wayne Swan -- an outspoken critic of Australia's mining billionaires and their deep-pocketed anti-tax campaigns -- slammed the remarks.
"These sorts of comments are an insult to the millions of Australian workers who go to work and slog it out to feed the kids and pay the bills," Swan said, adding that Rinehart clearly regarded Australians as "lazy workers who drink and socialise too much".
Swan has repeatedly attacked Rinehart, coal magnate Clive Palmer and iron ore baron Andrew Forrest for running "self-interested" campaigns against the centre-left Labor government's taxes on mining profits and pollution.
He penned a lengthy essay for prominent magazine The Monthly earlier this year taking the billionaires to task and ramped up his attack in a speech this month drawing heavily on the lyrics of US working-class rocker Bruce Springsteen.
Health Minister Tanya Plibersek said it was "pretty easy for Gina Rinehart to say that people on the minimum wage should get paid less".
The left-leaning Greens party noted that Rinehart had "accumulated wealth from her family", while Australia's mining union labelled her remarks "bizarre" and accused her of pursing a "dangerous" agenda.
"At the same time as trying to import cheap foreign labour and avoid paying tax, Rinehart claims it's millionaires and billionaires who are the greatest for social good," said mining union president Tony Maher.
"What planet is she living on? She should spend less time ranting and more time sharing."



surreal

Electric_Squid

Electric_Squid

Edwardsville, KS
December 2007

SEP 07, 2012 11:57 AM



If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain. Do something to make more money yourself



Or you could be like her and inherit everything.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

SEP 07, 2012 12:04 PM

Maybe she should take up drinking and socializing, clearly she works too hard.

METOO

METOO

Chicago, IL
October 2011

SEP 07, 2012 12:25 PM

FellOnEarth said:
Maybe she should take up drinking and socializing, clearly she works too hard.



Working? Getting married at 19. Working for her Daddy, then fighting her stepmother over the fortune for 14 years.



METOO

METOO

Chicago, IL
October 2011

SEP 07, 2012 12:30 PM

read this

So work harder but we're going to pay you less while I make even more money you lazy drunks.

cpkz

cpkz

Portland, OR
September 2006

SEP 07, 2012 12:51 PM

METOO said:
read this

So work harder but we're going to pay you less while I make even more money you lazy drunks.



wait...are you trying to tell me that rich people may be trying to overwork and underpay the lower class?

I refuse to believe such filthy lies.

JorgeCartman

JorgeCartman

USA
February 2008

SEP 07, 2012 01:27 PM

ArtHippo said:


If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain. Do something to make more money yourself



Or you could be like her and inherit everything.



I know, right? Wtf. Only billionaire I know of who can say something like that without sounding like a total hypocrite is Richard Branson. Although I sincerely doubt he'd actually say it.... at least not in the callous way she did. Unlike Rinehart, Branson actually came up from common roots to build his fortune.

I wonder if Rinehart will tell the masses to "Just eat Cake"...

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

SEP 07, 2012 01:42 PM

JorgeCartman said:

ArtHippo said:


If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain. Do something to make more money yourself



Or you could be like her and inherit everything.



I know, right? Wtf. Only billionaire I know of who can say something like that without sounding like a total hypocrite is Richard Branson. Although I sincerely doubt he'd actually say it.... at least not in the callous way she did. Unlike Rinehart, Branson actually came up from common roots to build his fortune.

I wonder if Rinehart will tell the masses to "Just eat Cake"...



She could, but looking at her face makes me lose my appetite.

skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

SEP 07, 2012 02:03 PM

JorgeCartman said:

ArtHippo said:


If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain. Do something to make more money yourself



Or you could be like her and inherit everything.



I know, right? Wtf. Only billionaire I know of who can say something like that without sounding like a total hypocrite is Richard Branson. Although I sincerely doubt he'd actually say it.... at least not in the callous way she did. Unlike Rinehart, Branson actually came up from common roots to build his fortune.

I wonder if Rinehart will tell the masses to "Just eat Cake"...



If I remember correctly, Warren Buffet has made similar remarks in the past about working hard and cutting down on partying. Similar in content, but miles apart in tone. Of course, he disagrees vehemently with everything else in her rant. I expect to hear something from him to that effect in the near future.

Not that Buffet's roots were particularly common, with a father who was a politician and stockbroker. But essentially very little of his wealth came by inheritance. Nor will his children inherit much of what he's got now.


SPOILERS! (Click to view)
Imagine being a fly on the wall at a meeting between Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and Gina Rinehart.
eeek


ardour

ardour

Canada
March 2006

SEP 07, 2012 02:57 PM

But who will clean our pools when we all stop smoking and socializing and become millionaires?

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

SEP 07, 2012 03:37 PM

ardour said:
But who will clean our pools when we all stop smoking and socializing and become millionaires?



Who cares? It's only going to cost us $2/day.

CobraLucha

CobraLucha

Australia
October 2011

SEP 07, 2012 05:34 PM

zoom image

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Coal, Iron Ore, you get the point.


METOO

METOO

Chicago, IL
October 2011

SEP 07, 2012 05:37 PM

ardour said:
But who will clean our pools when we all stop smoking and socializing and become millionaires?



Duh! The Africans! (Or whoever she can get to do it for less.)
Hell why not go back to whipping for labor?!



METOO

METOO

Chicago, IL
October 2011

SEP 07, 2012 05:38 PM

But in her defense she really is supporting the fast food industry. puke

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

SEP 07, 2012 06:07 PM

This lady obviously sucks but I always hate to see people resort to mocking someone's appearance. Plenty of people who are good and generous look like her too.

METOO

METOO

Chicago, IL
October 2011

SEP 07, 2012 06:14 PM

Thistle said:
This lady obviously sucks but I always hate to see people resort to mocking someone's appearance. Plenty of people who are good and generous look like her too.



True.
We overlook that and accept them as good people, but you wanna be a
Daddies girl/cunt who can't stay married and has children change names to dissociate themselves(from the parent) and then call poor people lazy drunks while proposing lowering the minimum wage and threatening to hire people for $2 an hour to do the same work?

It's on!

METOO

METOO

Chicago, IL
October 2011

SEP 07, 2012 06:19 PM

I mean I've been know to ride my bike 30,40 or miles just to get where I need to go. Big deal some people ride more some less but I don't go around telling someone who walks to the bus a lazy shithead. She's just another example of an out of reality bitch who thinks her Dad's money makes her special.


SPOILERS! (Click to view)

She probably hasn't gotten laid since her last divorce circa 1990.



CobraLucha

CobraLucha

Australia
October 2011

SEP 07, 2012 08:59 PM

Thistle said:
This lady obviously sucks but I always hate to see people resort to mocking someone's appearance. Plenty of people who are good and generous look like her too.



Too often I hear people talking of Ms Rinehart start with "that fat ..." or end with "and she looks like a ... ". It weakens an opposition to a woman who seems solely driven by profits. She recently took a stake, just short of a takeover, in the only print alternative in Australia to the Murdoch Papers, considered by some as a failed attempt for editorial control. She has a 12% stake and sympathetic board members at Channel Ten, one of our three FTA television stations, whose CEO is Lachlan Murdoch. So you can see how a woman, so intensely private, who rarely does interviews, enjoys so much coverage.

Combining her $2 Africans, her poems and her opposition to both Carbon Pricing and the Mineral Resources Rent tax I am OK with the slide of her fortune over the last few weeks.

And while we're on batshit crazy Australian Miners (with unfortunate weight problems) don't forget Clive Palmer. zoom image

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

SEP 07, 2012 10:37 PM

METOO said:

Thistle said:
This lady obviously sucks but I always hate to see people resort to mocking someone's appearance. Plenty of people who are good and generous look like her too.



True.
We overlook that and accept them as good people, but you wanna be a
Daddies girl/cunt who can't stay married and has children change names to dissociate themselves(from the parent) and then call poor people lazy drunks while proposing lowering the minimum wage and threatening to hire people for $2 an hour to do the same work?

It's on!



My point is that her appearance isn't relevant and it weakens your position to attack her on her gender or her weight or the fact that she isn't conventionally attractive. It's exactly the same as attacking someone on the basis of not being white. It's something she can't help that has nothing to do with the hateful, horrible ideas coming out of her mouth. And it's a low blow that is not worthy of intelligent discourse.

Your point seems to be that it's okay to be ugly if you are a really good person. My point is that how ugly someone is is irrelevant to their worth as a person.

Your point is further weakened by calling her a cunt, which is insulting her on the basis of her gender and not her politics. Do you think I like that if I piss you off enough you will say my genitals are the worst insult you can offer? This person, this Ms Rhinehart, is a horrible human being and I don't intend to defend her actions or ideas at all. But her femaleness and ugliness have absolutely fuck all to do with why she's a shitty human being and are NOT the basis from which to criticize her.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

SEP 07, 2012 11:30 PM

METOO said:

FellOnEarth said:
Maybe she should take up drinking and socializing, clearly she works too hard.



Working? Getting married at 19. Working for her Daddy, then fighting her stepmother over the fortune for 14 years.



I guess throwing her own insult back in her face with my thinly veiled sarcasm got missed.

hoorayparade

hoorayparade

USA
May 2006

SEP 07, 2012 11:44 PM

Thistle said:

METOO said:

Thistle said:
This lady obviously sucks but I always hate to see people resort to mocking someone's appearance. Plenty of people who are good and generous look like her too.



True.
We overlook that and accept them as good people, but you wanna be a
Daddies girl/cunt who can't stay married and has children change names to dissociate themselves(from the parent) and then call poor people lazy drunks while proposing lowering the minimum wage and threatening to hire people for $2 an hour to do the same work?

It's on!



My point is that her appearance isn't relevant and it weakens your position to attack her on her gender or her weight or the fact that she isn't conventionally attractive. It's exactly the same as attacking someone on the basis of not being white. It's something she can't help that has nothing to do with the hateful, horrible ideas coming out of her mouth. And it's a low blow that is not worthy of intelligent discourse.

Your point seems to be that it's okay to be ugly if you are a really good person. My point is that how ugly someone is is irrelevant to their worth as a person.

Your point is further weakened by calling her a cunt, which is insulting her on the basis of her gender and not her politics. Do you think I like that if I piss you off enough you will say my genitals are the worst insult you can offer? This person, this Ms Rhinehart, is a horrible human being and I don't intend to defend her actions or ideas at all. But her femaleness and ugliness have absolutely fuck all to do with why she's a shitty human being and are NOT the basis from which to criticize her.



This. Thank you.

cpkz

cpkz

Portland, OR
September 2006

SEP 08, 2012 01:04 AM

Thistle said:
It's something she can't help that has nothing to do with the hateful, horrible ideas coming out of her mouth.



It is something she can help. She could work to lose weight. She could use less of her money to eat as much as she does.

And those aspects are relevant. She calls lower class people lazy, and suggests that they shouldn't over-consume. Yet pointing out that her weight is most likely due to both over-consumption and an unwillingness to physically strain her body (aka, she's lazy) is pointing out that she's hypocritical, and until she is willing to put the same effort as everyone else, she should shut her mouth.

I do agree that insulting her gender / using gender-insulting words is a bad move.

Countessa

Countessa

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

SEP 08, 2012 01:15 AM

I actually had a dream she'd go and say something like what she just did... golly.

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

SEP 08, 2012 06:44 AM

cpkz said:

Thistle said:
It's something she can't help that has nothing to do with the hateful, horrible ideas coming out of her mouth.



It is something she can help. She could work to lose weight.


You don't know that for sure. She could have a medical problem that keeps her at that weight. The weight could be a side effect of some medication for some other, more serious condition. For all YOU know, she could work out six days a week. So unless you're her doctor, don't tell people their weight is something they can do shit about.

She could use less of her money to eat as much as she does.


That's yet another assumption here- you don't know how much she spends on food.


And those aspects are relevant. She calls lower class people lazy, and suggests that they shouldn't over-consume. Yet pointing out that her weight is most likely due to both over-consumption and an unwillingness to physically strain her body (aka, she's lazy) is pointing out that she's hypocritical, and until she is willing to put the same effort as everyone else, she should shut her mouth.


Emphasis added by me. See those two words? Again, you don't know that for sure. Assuming someone is lazy just because they're fat is REALLY insulting. Do I have to explain why this is?


I do agree that insulting her gender / using gender-insulting words is a bad move.


Yes, along with everything that came out of this vile woman's mouth. We shouldn't attack her- or anyone's, for that matter- physical appearance, gender, or anything else irrelevant to the hateful things she's said. And yes, her physical appearance is irrelevant, until we know for sure that she doesn't have a thyroid problem, and doesn't lay around the house all day shoving taco after taco into her gaping maw. Since we don't know those things for sure, calling her a hypocrite is really just another ad hominem attack.

Focus on the horrible shit people say and do and call them out on that, not what they look like. Is that so fuckin' hard?

SilverSurfer

SilverSurfer

MODERATOR

Chicago, IL

SEP 08, 2012 07:16 AM

^^^ Not hard at all. I was thinking of posting something along the same lines, but I wouldn't have been nearly as eloquent as this. smile

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