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kurtdiedfayasins

kurtdiedfayasins

Christmas Island
February 2004

MAR 20, 2004 11:48 AM

One year after the war in Iraq began, the newest possession of the United States has been made into the newest hotbed of terrorism. This New York Times editorial outlines where the country stands today and the challenges that still remain. Despite the constant efforts to paint the picture of a budding democracy and a Pax Americana of flowers and happiness, the new Iraq is chaotic and ill-prepared for the handover of power to the hand-picked governing council.

Worldwide protests today aim to hold the administration accountable for its actions. We were told that the removal of Saddam Hussein was necessary to protect the U.S. and its allies from weapons of mass destruction. Now, when George W. Bush and his "Mayberry Machiavelli" harangue hired crowds about the great victory of Iraq, these weapons are seldom mentioned. Why? Because their own inspectors and experts have testified that they aren't there, and likely never were.

The American voters are all that can bring our nation back from the brink. Send George W. Bush and his hired corporate lackeys out to pasture, and start the process of repairing our credibility with the rest of the planet. Send them back to the ranch--before it's too late.

Abracapocus

Abracapocus

Seattle, WA
January 2004

MAR 20, 2004 11:55 AM

Unfortunately, John Kerry and the Democrats are not the answer to our problems.

Semitic

Semitic

Boston, MA
December 2003

MAR 20, 2004 12:13 PM

Abracapocus said:
Unfortunately, John Kerry and the Democrats are not the answer to our problems.



So what you are saying is?

faithless000

faithless000

Chicago, IL
May 2003

MAR 20, 2004 12:19 PM

Abracapocus said:
Unfortunately, John Kerry and the Democrats are not the answer to our problems.



*nod*
welcome to another election of "the least worst of"
at least his environmental stance is worth supporting, tho

Abracapocus

Abracapocus

Seattle, WA
January 2004

MAR 20, 2004 12:22 PM

Semitic said:

Abracapocus said:
Unfortunately, John Kerry and the Democrats are not the answer to our problems.



So what you are saying is?



Actually, I should have directed that more at Kerry. I think he was definitely one of the weaker presidential candidates running - and what he actually stands for still isn't clear to me. I liked Edwards. I just think that Bush is going to win again this year.

hansel

hansel

I'm lost
December 2003

MAR 20, 2004 12:34 PM

Abracapocus said:

Semitic said:

Abracapocus said:
Unfortunately, John Kerry and the Democrats are not the answer to our problems.



So what you are saying is?



Actually, I should have directed that more at Kerry. I think he was definitely one of the weaker presidential candidates running - and what he actually stands for still isn't clear to me. I liked Edwards. I just think that Bush is going to win again this year.



John Kerry is running on a "but I'm not Bush" campaign.. and you know what? It'll work on me.

jJay

jJay

San Francisco, CA
October 2002

MAR 20, 2004 12:45 PM

Risk is a great game

JeffreyLebowski

JeffreyLebowski

Mexico
OLD SKOOL

MAR 20, 2004 03:13 PM

GeeDub and Karl Rove's "Reality Distortion Field" makes Steve Jobs', look like it's got whiskey-dick.

Brinstar

Brinstar

Chicago, IL
September 2002

MAR 20, 2004 03:51 PM

I'm voting for Mickey Mouse again.

Maybe this time he will win.

Phoebus

Phoebus

Italy
OLD SKOOL

MAR 20, 2004 05:39 PM

Shouldn't the title of this thread be different? Does anyone here think that if our European allies had been more willing to join in that terrorism wouldn't be taking place in Iraq right now?

s5

s5

STAFF

San Francisco, CA

MAR 20, 2004 05:44 PM

sunburntkamel said:
at least his environmental stance is worth supporting, tho



yeah, and it's a great reason to support him, too, especially for those who are focused on terrorism originating from countries in the middle east. having a president who isn't in bed with energy companies will mean an opportunity to reduce our reliance on oil which will mean less money going directly into the pockets of unstable and hostile governments. seems like a no-brainer to me.

Abracapocus

Abracapocus

Seattle, WA
January 2004

MAR 21, 2004 02:10 AM

Phoebus said:
Shouldn't the title of this thread be different? Does anyone here think that if our European allies had been more willing to join in that terrorism wouldn't be taking place in Iraq right now?



Are you kidding?!! The last thing the terrorists want to see in Iraq is any form of stable non-Islamic government. We will continue to see this sort violence as long as that is either a.) a possibility, or b.) a reality. Why would it matter if European countries had been 100% behind the U.S. effort?

Phoebus

Phoebus

Italy
OLD SKOOL

MAR 21, 2004 10:43 PM

Abracapocus said:

Phoebus said:
Shouldn't the title of this thread be different? Does anyone here think that if our European allies had been more willing to join in, that terrorism wouldn't be taking place in Iraq right now?



Are you kidding?!! The last thing the terrorists want to see in Iraq is any form of stable non-Islamic government. We will continue to see this sort violence as long as that is either a.) a possibility, or b.) a reality. Why would it matter if European countries had been 100% behind the U.S. effort?



Read my statement again. Then, read yours... we're saying the same thing. smile

turin

turin

Denver, CO
October 2003

MAR 21, 2004 11:35 PM

Abracapocus said:
Unfortunately, John Kerry and the Democrats are not the answer to our problems.



Now I'm probably gonna get chewed for this, but I'll take "not the answer to" our problems over "a storied tradition of exacerbating" our problems any day.

Patrick_Lasswell

Patrick_Lasswell

Portland, OR
January 2003

MAR 22, 2004 06:00 PM


Worldwide protests today aim to hold the administration accountable for its actions.


Total World attendance at these rallies failed to rival NASCAR participation this weekend. Undeterred, the Reinstall Saddam forces marched on to support terror and tyranny.

Yawn.

toomaas

toomaas

Denmark
February 2004

MAR 22, 2004 07:45 PM

Patrick_Lasswell said:

Total World attendance at these rallies failed to rival NASCAR participation this weekend. Undeterred, the Reinstall Saddam forces marched on to support terror and tyranny.

Yawn.




Luckily, the attendance of the rallies didn't reflect people opinions about the war, it just reflects the fact that people have realized that nobody cares what they ´mean, least of all Bush..
i didn't participate.
i'm still against the war.
I'm sure you could find numerous other like me here on the board..

troglodyte

troglodyte

Victoria, BC
May 2003

MAR 22, 2004 08:02 PM

Patrick_Lasswell said:
Total World attendance at these rallies failed to rival NASCAR participation this weekend. Undeterred, the Reinstall Saddam forces marched on to support terror and tyranny.

Yawn.



"Reinstall Saddam forces." Cute. Is Ann Coulter ghost-writing for you now?

Abracapocus

Abracapocus

Seattle, WA
January 2004

MAR 22, 2004 09:29 PM

Phoebus said:

Abracapocus said:

Phoebus said:
Shouldn't the title of this thread be different? Does anyone here think that if our European allies had been more willing to join in, that terrorism wouldn't be taking place in Iraq right now?



Are you kidding?!! The last thing the terrorists want to see in Iraq is any form of stable non-Islamic government. We will continue to see this sort violence as long as that is either a.) a possibility, or b.) a reality. Why would it matter if European countries had been 100% behind the U.S. effort?



Read my statement again. Then, read yours... we're saying the same thing. smile




Hmmm...yeah. My reading comprehension after a full day of drinking isn't too hot. Actually, I'm amazed that I actually made sense in that post.

Patrick_Lasswell

Patrick_Lasswell

Portland, OR
January 2003

MAR 23, 2004 10:23 AM

trog,

Silly Rabbit! If you had any connection to the blogsphere worth mentioning, you'd have seen that I was channeling Lileks!
http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/04/0304/032204.html


The other day a variety of people gathered in various cities to say, in essence, put it back. The Movement to Reinstall Saddam commemorated the first anniversary of the Iraq campaign by expressing their outrage at the loss of an ally in the war against America. These people are the fringe of the left; yes. They are the Klan with out the sheets. Worse: they don’t have the inbred moonshine-addled mah-pappy-hated-nigras-an-I-hate-‘em-too dense-as-a-neutron-star stupidity of your average Kluxer. They didn’t come to this level of stupidity naturally. They had to work at it. I’m sure you’ll find in these pictures people who have cool jobs in San Francisco, people who get grants, write code, run the coffee-frother at a funky bookstore, and have no problem marching alongside someone who spells Israel with swastika instead of an S.


He talks further about the failure and vacuity of multilateral stupidity. Read it if you dare.

troglodyte

troglodyte

Victoria, BC
May 2003

MAR 23, 2004 10:50 AM

Wow man, that's deep. Apparently Coulter *is* ghost-writing for you.

Patrick_Lasswell said:
If you had any connection to the blogsphere worth mentioning...



You're absolutely correct, I have no connection to the "blogosphere." Nor do I want to. I don't know why you expect me to put any weight on the opinions of annonymous windbags on the internet.

[Edited on Mar 23, 2004 by troglodyte]

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

MAR 23, 2004 10:51 AM

Patrick_Lasswell said:
trog,

Silly Rabbit! If you had any connection to the blogsphere worth mentioning, you'd have seen that I was channeling Lileks!
http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/04/0304/032204.html



Ah, but you see theres the beauty of it. Because you guys are only alloted one original thought a day, by simply reading you, we can skip all the other angry white guys' vanity pieces.

RubberSoul

RubberSoul

Los Angeles, CA
February 2003

MAR 23, 2004 11:04 AM

Ask Saddam how badly the war failed.

St_Expedite

St_Expedite

New Orleans, LA
January 2004

MAR 23, 2004 01:11 PM

Patrick_Lasswell said:
trog,

Silly Rabbit! If you had any connection to the blogsphere worth mentioning, you'd have seen that I was channeling Lileks!
http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/04/0304/032204.html



Why am I getting a distinctly "Comic Book Guy" vibe here?

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

MAR 23, 2004 02:42 PM

Lemonnier said:

Patrick_Lasswell said:
trog,

Silly Rabbit! If you had any connection to the blogsphere worth mentioning, you'd have seen that I was channeling Lileks!
http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/04/0304/032204.html



Why am I getting a distinctly "Comic Book Guy" vibe here?



And people wondered why I said "Fuck the Blogosphere!" in a group discussion.

"I'm on Blogger.com, hear me roar!"

*sigh*

kurtdiedfayasins

kurtdiedfayasins

Christmas Island
February 2004

MAR 23, 2004 03:45 PM

"Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."

- George H. W. Bush, in his 1998 memoir A World Transformed



"Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us are happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush? They are the same ones who wanted to have Muhammad Ali locked up for refusing to kill gooks. They speak for all that is cruel and stupid and vicious in the American character. They are the racists and hatemongers among us -- they are the Ku Klux Klan. I piss down the throats of these Nazis.

And I am too old to worry about whether they like it or not. Fuck them."

- Hunter S. Thompson, Kingdom of Fear



skull

[Edited on Mar 23, 2004 by kurtdiedfayasins]

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