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Canadian_Coat

Canadian_Coat

Brockville, ON
September 2008

NOV 11, 2011 01:30 AM

Researchers have been able to genetically create a strain of “mighty mice” that are twice as strong as normal mice, raising treatment hopes for a range of illnesses involving muscle degeneration.

Scientists were able to produce these super-strong mice by suppressing the NCoR1 receptor that normally inhibits the buildup of muscle tissue. In the absence of that inhibitor, their offspring could run faster and longer before showing any signs of fatigue and even showed better cold tolerance.

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I for one welcome our new mice overlords.


In all seriousness though, this does have some good applications for us:

“This could be used to combat muscle weakness in the elderly, which leads to falls and contributes to hospitalizations,” said team leader Johan Auwerx from École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL). “In addition, we think that this could be used as a basis for developing a treatment for genetic muscular dystrophy,” he said.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

NOV 11, 2011 03:09 AM

Canadian_Coat said:

Researchers have been able to genetically create a strain of “mighty mice” that are twice as strong as normal mice, raising treatment hopes for CREATING CAPTAIN AMERICA.


FIFY

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

NOV 11, 2011 05:02 AM

This we don't need:


But I do like the idea of treating degeneration caused by disease or nonambulatory injuries. smile

lexxie

lexxie

Toronto, ON
October 2008

NOV 11, 2011 11:31 AM

motorfirebox said:

Canadian_Coat said:

Researchers have been able to genetically create a strain of “mighty mice” that are twice as strong as normal mice, raising treatment hopes for CREATING CAPTAIN AMERICA.


FIFY



and my first thought was, "doesn't this sound like the beginning of an x-men origin story?"

Accuser

Accuser

Scottsdale, AZ
October 2006

NOV 11, 2011 12:07 PM

motorfirebox said:

Canadian_Coat said:

Researchers have been able to genetically create a strain of “mighty mice” that are twice as strong as normal mice, raising treatment hopes for creating .


FIFY



FIFY

Waldo_Jeffers

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

NOV 11, 2011 12:45 PM

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

NOV 11, 2011 04:54 PM

This breakthrough could turn comedians into world champion wrestlers!

Bill_the_Cat

Bill_the_Cat

Vanier, ON
May 2005

NOV 11, 2011 05:27 PM

I'm no expert, but I am a skeptic and I'm thinking that an increase in muscle growth would put a greater stain on bones and joints. It seems to me that maybe the NCoR1 receptor in the genetic code is there for the very purpose of balancing muscle build up with skeletal wear and tear. It'd be a little like dropping a V8 into a Fiat Panda. It might go fast for a while, but the drive train and frame just aren't designed to handle that much extra torque. Catastrophic failure is inevitable.

Bill_the_Cat

Bill_the_Cat

Vanier, ON
May 2005

NOV 11, 2011 05:33 PM

God. I'm such a buzz-kill.

Accuser

Accuser

Scottsdale, AZ
October 2006

NOV 11, 2011 05:57 PM

Bill_the_Cat said:
I'm no expert, but I am a skeptic and I'm thinking that an increase in muscle growth would put a greater stain on bones and joints. It seems to me that maybe the NCoR1 receptor in the genetic code is there for the very purpose of balancing muscle build up with skeletal wear and tear. It'd be a little like dropping a V8 into a Fiat Panda. It might go fast for a while, but the drive train and frame just aren't designed to handle that much extra torque. Catastrophic failure is inevitable.



The following is my understanding:

Correct, but human muscle growth inhibitors evolved based on an extremely physically active lifestyle. We don't have that lifestyle anymore. Thus, deactivating some of those inhibitors is most appropriate for people who really need the extra muscle growth. That's why they're talking about using it to counteract muscular dystrophy, but not as a recommended treatment for body builders.

Though body builders could maybe get the same results with much, much less work. That'd be sweet, too.

Waldo_Jeffers

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

NOV 11, 2011 10:46 PM

Bill_the_Cat said:
I'm no expert, but I am a skeptic and I'm thinking that an increase in muscle growth would put a greater stain on bones and joints. It seems to me that maybe the NCoR1 receptor in the genetic code is there for the very purpose of balancing muscle build up with skeletal wear and tear. It'd be a little like dropping a V8 into a Fiat Panda. It might go fast for a while, but the drive train and frame just aren't designed to handle that much extra torque. Catastrophic failure is inevitable.



You mean that these mice might be born with... BONEITIS!!!!

Bill_the_Cat

Bill_the_Cat

Vanier, ON
May 2005

NOV 12, 2011 06:26 AM

Waldo_Jeffers said:

Bill_the_Cat said:
I'm no expert, but I am a skeptic and I'm thinking that an increase in muscle growth would put a greater stain on bones and joints. It seems to me that maybe the NCoR1 receptor in the genetic code is there for the very purpose of balancing muscle build up with skeletal wear and tear. It'd be a little like dropping a V8 into a Fiat Panda. It might go fast for a while, but the drive train and frame just aren't designed to handle that much extra torque. Catastrophic failure is inevitable.



You mean that these mice might be born with... BONEITIS!!!!



No, but they might die from it. wink

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

NOV 12, 2011 06:40 AM

A simple bonectomy should resolve that issue.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

NOV 12, 2011 07:09 AM

I'm not sure if that is a bona fide procedure.













But I do admire your bonhomie.

Bill_the_Cat

Bill_the_Cat

Vanier, ON
May 2005

NOV 12, 2011 07:11 AM

*groan*

METOO

METOO

Chicago, IL
October 2011

NOV 12, 2011 07:17 AM

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

NOV 12, 2011 07:45 AM

Also,for the record, I'm a bit partial to the Bakshi version of Mighty Mouse, if only because it's where John K cut his teeth.

Evidence:


There's a bit of something for everyone... Even. EL SUICIDO LOCO

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

NOV 12, 2011 07:50 AM

Waldo_Jeffers said:

Bill_the_Cat said:
I'm no expert, but I am a skeptic and I'm thinking that an increase in muscle growth would put a greater stain on bones and joints. It seems to me that maybe the NCoR1 receptor in the genetic code is there for the very purpose of balancing muscle build up with skeletal wear and tear. It'd be a little like dropping a V8 into a Fiat Panda. It might go fast for a while, but the drive train and frame just aren't designed to handle that much extra torque. Catastrophic failure is inevitable.



You mean that these mice might be born with... BONEITIS!!!!



YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

baudot

baudot

Oakland, CA
February 2004

NOV 12, 2011 09:04 AM

Bill_the_Cat said:
I'm no expert, but I am a skeptic and I'm thinking that an increase in muscle growth would put a greater stain on bones and joints....


That is likely. Tweak any balanced system and you're going to throw things off. So we need to learn more tweaks, so we can tune and counter tune. Transhumanism, full steam ahead.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

NOV 12, 2011 10:33 AM

I don't know, it seems like if someone's muscles are unnaturally weak due to disease, but there is nothing wrong with their bones or ligaments, then this therapy would redtore them to balance rather than making their muscles too strong for their bones.

Bill_the_Cat

Bill_the_Cat

Vanier, ON
May 2005

NOV 12, 2011 11:23 AM

Thistle said:
I don't know, it seems like if someone's muscles are unnaturally weak due to disease, but there is nothing wrong with their bones or ligaments, then this therapy would redtore them to balance rather than making their muscles too strong for their bones.



That may be true, but the article also talks about using it as therapy for elderly patients, who are not known for their strong bones and connective tissue.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

NOV 12, 2011 11:32 AM

Bill_the_Cat said:

Thistle said:
I don't know, it seems like if someone's muscles are unnaturally weak due to disease, but there is nothing wrong with their bones or ligaments, then this therapy would redtore them to balance rather than making their muscles too strong for their bones.



That may be true, but the article also talks about using it as therapy for elderly patients, who are not known for their strong bones and connective tissue.



True. I am excited to see where this research goes though.

Bill_the_Cat

Bill_the_Cat

Vanier, ON
May 2005

NOV 12, 2011 11:38 AM

Thistle said:

Bill_the_Cat said:

Thistle said:
I don't know, it seems like if someone's muscles are unnaturally weak due to disease, but there is nothing wrong with their bones or ligaments, then this therapy would redtore them to balance rather than making their muscles too strong for their bones.



That may be true, but the article also talks about using it as therapy for elderly patients, who are not known for their strong bones and connective tissue.



True. I am excited to see where this research goes though.



So am I, despite my skepticism.

baudot

baudot

Oakland, CA
February 2004

NOV 12, 2011 11:45 AM

That makes three.

Waldo_Jeffers

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

NOV 12, 2011 12:05 PM

Thistle said:

Bill_the_Cat said:

Thistle said:
I don't know, it seems like if someone's muscles are unnaturally weak due to disease, but there is nothing wrong with their bones or ligaments, then this therapy would redtore them to balance rather than making their muscles too strong for their bones.



That may be true, but the article also talks about using it as therapy for elderly patients, who are not known for their strong bones and connective tissue.



True. I am excited to see where this research goes though.



Super Gran?

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