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i___zombie

i___zombie

USA
June 2003

JUL 14, 2011 12:22 PM


Because of Constitution Error, North Dakota is Not a State (and Never Has Been)


Time NewsFeed

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A constitutional error recently discovered shows that North Dakota has never technically fit the requirements for statehood.

John Rolczynski, an 82-year old Grand Forks resident, discovered the error in 1995 and has been been campaigning to fix North Dakota's constitution ever since. The problem lies in the state constitution's omission in requiring the governor and other top officials to take an oath of office. In failing to require these oaths, North Dakota's constitution is at odds with federal requirements established by Article VI of the U.S. Constitution, therefore making statehood illegitimate.

After nearly 16 years of fighting to change the constitution, Rolczynski may finally see his goal accomplished: Senator Tim Mathern of Fargo introduced a bill this spring that would fix the error.

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/07/14/because-of-constitution-error-north-dakota-is-not-a-state-and-never-has-been/#ixzz1S6oAvwWT


if they were never legit as a "State" ... then even the current Government in ND can't pass a Bill or any other action as a "State" ... technically it should still be a Territory, and be given back to the Sioux/Lakota Tribes!

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

JUL 14, 2011 12:23 PM

I always assumed it was just a part of Canada.

Waldo_Jeffers

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

JUL 14, 2011 12:28 PM

Coyotemike said:
I always assumed it was just a part of Canada.



biggrin

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JUL 14, 2011 12:37 PM

Man, and I thought it was bad when it was just individual people entering the country illegally, now we've got entire illegal states? Go back to where you came from, North Dakota!

minimalism

minimalism

Argentina
OLD SKOOL

JUL 14, 2011 12:38 PM

motorfirebox said:
Man, and I thought it was bad when it was just individual people entering the country illegally, now we've got entire illegal states? Go back to where you came from, North Dakota!



And learn to speak English.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

JUL 14, 2011 12:38 PM

motorfirebox said:
Man, and I thought it was bad when it was just individual people entering the country illegally, now we've got entire illegal states? Go back to where you came from, North Dakota!



Sweden?

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JUL 14, 2011 12:39 PM

Coyotemike said:

motorfirebox said:
Man, and I thought it was bad when it was just individual people entering the country illegally, now we've got entire illegal states? Go back to where you came from, North Dakota!



Mexico?


Probably. Someplace brown, anyway.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

JUL 14, 2011 12:44 PM

motorfirebox said:

Coyotemike said:

motorfirebox said:
Man, and I thought it was bad when it was just individual people entering the country illegally, now we've got entire illegal states? Go back to where you came from, North Dakota!



Mexico?


Probably. Someplace brown, anyway.



I edited for someplace "Socialist" instead of brown.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

JUL 14, 2011 12:50 PM

minimalism said:

motorfirebox said:
Man, and I thought it was bad when it was just individual people entering the country illegally, now we've got entire illegal states? Go back to where you came from, North Dakota!


And learn to speak English.


Ya, sure, you betcha!

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

JUL 14, 2011 01:02 PM

Coyotemike said:
I always assumed it was just a part of Canada.



No, they told us we had to take it if we wanted to keep the lil' doggie part of Michigan, or they'd burn the White House down again. Fuckers.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

JUL 14, 2011 01:49 PM

You could just sent that statehood down my way. Republican successionism has taken hold among local county supervisors that would like to carve a tax free slice of freedom from California and form an new stronghold of conservative bliss called South California. The idea has been around since the days California first became a state, and has been mulled by both northern and southern Californian local governments. Riverside County supervisor, Jeff Stone, has spearheaded the latest effort to bring conservative leaning counties together to explore the option amid the gridlock that has become a permanent fixture in Sacramento.

Personally, I hate the idea. I grew up here in southern California and really don't want this place to become any more an enclave of ignorant assholes than it already is. I wouldn't want to give up calling this place the Golden State just so it can called a red state. Alas, if such an unlikely event were to occur, I'd imagine this standard would be fitting:

Canadian_Coat

Canadian_Coat

Brockville, ON
September 2008

JUL 14, 2011 04:02 PM

mydogfarted said:

Coyotemike said:
I always assumed it was just a part of Canada.



No, they told us we had to take it if we wanted to keep the lil' doggie part of Michigan, or they'd burn the White House down again. Fuckers.


And you better fix that little constitutional problem because we don't want them to switch sides
*goes and gets matches just in case*

Sal_

Sal_

USA
October 2009

JUL 14, 2011 04:16 PM

Canadian_Coat said:

mydogfarted said:

Coyotemike said:
I always assumed it was just a part of Canada.



No, they told us we had to take it if we wanted to keep the lil' doggie part of Michigan, or they'd burn the White House down again. Fuckers.


And you better fix that little constitutional problem because we don't want them to switch sides
*goes and gets matches just in case*



Hey! You Canadians gave the world Celine dion, the least you could do is take north Dakota.

Canadian_Coat

Canadian_Coat

Brockville, ON
September 2008

JUL 14, 2011 05:07 PM

Sallen said:

Canadian_Coat said:

mydogfarted said:

Coyotemike said:
I always assumed it was just a part of Canada.



No, they told us we had to take it if we wanted to keep the lil' doggie part of Michigan, or they'd burn the White House down again. Fuckers.


And you better fix that little constitutional problem because we don't want them to switch sides
*goes and gets matches just in case*



Hey! You Canadians gave the world Celine dion, the least you could do is take north Dakota.


Hey, it's not our fault she escaped, learned English and then you guys built her a Hotel in Vegas...your just going to have to live with the choices you have made, and that includes North Dakota biggrin

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

JUL 14, 2011 05:20 PM

Canadian_Coat said:

Sallen said:

Canadian_Coat said:

mydogfarted said:

Coyotemike said:
I always assumed it was just a part of Canada.



No, they told us we had to take it if we wanted to keep the lil' doggie part of Michigan, or they'd burn the White House down again. Fuckers.


And you better fix that little constitutional problem because we don't want them to switch sides
*goes and gets matches just in case*



Hey! You Canadians gave the world Celine dion, the least you could do is take north Dakota.


Hey, it's not our fault she escaped, learned English and then you guys built her a Hotel in Vegas...your just going to have to live with the choices you have made, and that includes North Dakota biggrin



Ok, well what about Brian Adams?

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

JUL 14, 2011 05:26 PM

mydogfarted said:
Ok, well what about Brian Adams?


Now, now...the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions.

Canadian_Coat

Canadian_Coat

Brockville, ON
September 2008

JUL 14, 2011 05:43 PM

thefreak said:

mydogfarted said:
Ok, well what about Brian Adams?


Now, now...the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions.


You guys fell in love Justin Bieber, we still can't figure that one out; it was supposed to be a practical joke at first....

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

JUL 14, 2011 06:25 PM

Canadian_Coat said:

thefreak said:

mydogfarted said:
Ok, well what about Brian Adams?


Now, now...the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions.


You guys fell in love Justin Bieber, we still can't figure that one out; it was supposed to be a practical joke at first....



WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE, DR. VENTURE!!!

Necia

Necia

San Francisco, CA
August 2005

JUL 14, 2011 09:54 PM

Well, that actually kind of sucks, considering that North Dakota is one of the few states right now that doesn't seem to be totally eating it economically. Are the rest of us doing something wrong by being states? Maybe this not-being-a-state is what's working out so well for them!

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
Also: I'm no con law expert, but I really don't buy any of this, my admiration of Mr. John Rolczynski's tenacity notwithstanding. I'm feeling about this a lot like I felt about the "ZOMG! Did you know that you're not a Scorpio anymore because of this new sign with a name no one can pronounce, like some sort of astrological Prince or some shit?!?" story back whenever that was. It wants to be a thing; it really does. But it's not a thing.

Towelly

Towelly

Philadelphia, PA
January 2007

JUL 14, 2011 10:00 PM

Weird but true: no court in the country would ever accept that argument, because what satisfies the "republican form of government" clause is considered a political question to be decided by the legislature.

Clidna

Clidna

Canada
January 2005

JUL 14, 2011 10:07 PM

Canadian_Coat said:

thefreak said:

mydogfarted said:
Ok, well what about Brian Adams?


Now, now...the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions.


You guys fell in love Justin Bieber, we still can't figure that one out; it was supposed to be a practical joke at first....


Boy, did THAT backfire, eh?

Canadian_Coat

Canadian_Coat

Brockville, ON
September 2008

JUL 14, 2011 10:37 PM

Clidna said:

Canadian_Coat said:

thefreak said:

mydogfarted said:
Ok, well what about Brian Adams?


Now, now...the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions.


You guys fell in love Justin Bieber, we still can't figure that one out; it was supposed to be a practical joke at first....


Boy, did THAT backfire, eh?


You'd think, they take all our comedians, they would get our sense of humour wink

WingZephyr

WingZephyr

New Orleans, LA
October 2010

JUL 15, 2011 11:12 AM

I lived there for a year. I still have bones that have not thawed out.

spinhouse247

spinhouse247

Punta Gorda, FL
December 2003

JUL 15, 2011 01:07 PM

Deport it!

Tadzi

Tadzi

Greeley, CO
April 2003

JUL 15, 2011 06:29 PM

thefreak said:

mydogfarted said:
Ok, well what about Brian Adams?


Now, now...the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions.



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