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mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

JUL 08, 2011 08:17 AM

Oak Park, MI - where local government is dumb as fuck


OAK PARK, Mich. (WJBK) - "The price of organic food is kind of through the roof," said Julie Bass.

So, why not grow your own? However, Bass' garden is a little unique because it's in her front yard.

"We thought it'd be really cool to do it so the neighbors could see. The kids love it. The kids from the neighborhood all come and help," she said.

Bass' cool garden has landed her in hot water with the City of Oak Park. Code enforcement gave her a warning, then a ticket and now she's been charged with a misdemeanor.

"I think it's sad that the City of Oak Park that's already strapped for cash is paying a lot of money to have a prosecutor bothering us," Bass told FOX 2's Alexis Wiley.

"That's not what we want to see in a front yard," said Oak Park City Planner Kevin Rulkowski.

Why? The city is pointing to a code that says a front yard has to have suitable, live, plant material. The big question is what's "suitable?"

We asked Bass whether she thinks she has suitable, live, plant material in her front yard.

"It's definitely live. It's definitely plant. It's definitely material. We think it's suitable," she said.

So, we asked Rulkowski why it's not suitable.

"If you look at the definition of what suitable is in Webster's dictionary, it will say common. So, if you look around and you look in any other community, what's common to a front yard is a nice, grass yard with beautiful trees and bushes and flowers," he said.

But when you look at front yards that are unsightly and overgrown, is Bass' vegetable garden really worth the city's time and money?

We asked Rulkowski what he would say to those who feel this is ridiculous.

"I would argue that you won't find that opinion from most people in Oak Park," he responded.

"I have a bunch of little children and we take walks to come by and see everything growing. I think it's a very wonderful thing for our neighborhood," said neighbor Devorah Gold.

"They don't have (anything) else to do (if) they're going to take her to court for a garden," said neighbor Ora Goodwin.

We did find one neighbor who wasn't a fan and thinks it needs to go.

"I know there's a backyard. Do it in the backyard," he said.

"They say, 'Why should you grow things in the front?' Well, why shouldn't I? They're fine. They're pretty. They're well maintained," said Bass.

It looks like this critical debate is headed for a jury trial and neither side is backing down.

"I could sell out and save my own self and just not have them bother me anymore, but then there's no telling what they're going to harass the next person about," Bass told us.

There's another pretrial scheduled for July 26. The next step could be a jury trial.



Fuck you lady! Don't you grow all that deliciousness where I can see it!
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Sal_

Sal_

USA
October 2009

JUL 08, 2011 08:33 AM

All this, over a garden?

A garden is the cause of a legal dispute with the city?

A garden?

A fucking garden?

A fucking vegetable patch?

It's too bad those people don't own their own home and have to live on the government's property.

AnnaLee

AnnaLee

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 08, 2011 08:39 AM

They are seriously trying to ban a person from using their garden in a sustainable manner - growing food for themselves? I'm completely shocked, I can't think when I last heard anything so absurd. It's also quite fascistic, they only want perfectly mowed lawns and white fences in their neighborhood and everyone should adhere? I really hope that people protest that and that more people turn their precious concrete paving slabs, beds of stones or their lawns and fences into beautiful food.

IDGAS

IDGAS

Jackson Heights, NY
March 2004

JUL 08, 2011 09:09 AM

Damnation! I was planning to move to Oak Park and plant poison ivy, crab grass, and maybe bamboo* in my front lawn. Those three grow like weeds, don't need much care and I couldn't kill them. I find them they were suitable, less so than a garden full of healthy food, and guaranteed to piss off the neighbors.





*Note: Anyone who plants bamboo should be taken out and beaten with a bamboo cane. The stuff is a fucking weed that you couldn't kill with a tanker truck full of Roundup.

MissyMalice

MissyMalice

USA
May 2010

JUL 08, 2011 10:09 AM

Those types of regulations are really meant to keep people from letting their grass grow to seed and just having a complete mess of a yard. At least, that was the impression I always got. To use it against someone over a garden seems like an abuse of the rules.

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

JUL 08, 2011 10:41 AM

The worst part is that code officials generally just don't wander the neighbor looking for shit. Someone had to have complained, or she pissed someone at borough hall off.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

JUL 08, 2011 11:24 AM

I recall a story of some HOA going apeshit over woman who decided to save on her energy bill by line drying her laundry. She figured she'd let the sun do the work, but some of her neighbors weren't having any of it. When the stupidity of some stifles the ingenuity of others, we all suffer. I understand some basic community rules and ordinances (no running around the pool, limiting sign sizes or the burning of debris, for instance), regulation makes sense - when it makes sense, but controlling the minutia of people's lives and property is a wearisome commentary on society in this, "the land of opportunity and freedom."

Amazing to think that this and other countries were encouraged to grow their own "victory gardens" during times of war, well there is a war on right now and I don't mean any of the ones abroad, but here in our own back (or in this case front) yards: the war on energy, poverty, obesity, health care, etc. In cities where the economic downturn and loss of manufacturing has left areas empty blights, some communities have taken to guerrilla farming on vacant lots and even traffic islands, using the available land to support local food banks. I say good for Ms(?) Bass for taking a stand on the front lines of this fight and I hope she inspires others to do so.

Waldo_Jeffers

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

JUL 08, 2011 11:34 AM

What

the

f*ck

?

confused

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

JUL 08, 2011 11:48 AM

Since her neighbors support her, maybe they should plant veggies in their own front yards, thus creating the new "common" and negating the complaints against her.

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

JUL 08, 2011 11:57 AM

Coyotemike said:
Since her neighbors support her, maybe they should plant veggies in their own front yards, thus creating the new "common" and negating the complaints against her.



You are wise beyond my years.

Sal_

Sal_

USA
October 2009

JUL 08, 2011 01:00 PM

Coyotemike said:
Since her neighbors support her, maybe they should plant veggies in their own front yards, thus creating the new "common" and negating the complaints against her.



This is 'merica sir! That kind of well thought out, rational thinking has no place in our nation! I bet your a sleeper agent planning on bringing down this country from the inside with healthy produce!

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

JUL 08, 2011 02:31 PM

Coyotemike said:
Since her neighbors support her, maybe they should plant veggies in their own front yards, thus creating the new "common" and negating the complaints against her.


Precisely and I'd even venture to say that it's "common" to have other flowers, trees and ornamental plants in some yards that aren't "commonly" found in others. Almost no one has a yard that looks precisely the same, therefore, variation is the norm. If one should decide to plant a vegetable garden (as opposed to a rose or a rock garden) in their front yard, it really ought to be seen as common.

IKCSmiley

ikcsmiley

Asheville, NC
July 2003

JUL 08, 2011 03:33 PM

Wow - here in West Asheville every 5th house has a garden in their front lawn (of course we have lots of hippies and teh ghey here, so maybe that keeps the crotchey-old-neighbors at bay)

LEtranger

Letranger

Brooklyn, NY
September 2005

JUL 08, 2011 04:27 PM

I just dont understand this thing at all. What is the motivation for hassling her about this? Is it a case of capitalism gone amock, people should be "good consumers" and not grow their own food, they should buy it?

What gives?

Sal_

Sal_

USA
October 2009

JUL 08, 2011 05:06 PM

LEtranger said:
I just dont understand this thing at all. What is the motivation for hassling her about this? Is it a case of capitalism gone amock, people should be "good consumers" and not grow their own food, they should buy it?

What gives?



I think it's a hold over from this "ideal" image of a homoginized nuclear family with 2.5 kids a pet, a quaint house, a green lawn and a white picket fence.

But hey, wouldn't want people to be able to express themselves or do what they want with their own property.

Housing fascism is getting a bit rediculous in this country. It's why even if I could afford a home I am not sure I would actually buy one since it's technically not yours or else stupid shit like this wouldn't happen.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

JUL 08, 2011 05:15 PM

Sallen said:

Coyotemike said:
Since her neighbors support her, maybe they should plant veggies in their own front yards, thus creating the new "common" and negating the complaints against her.



This is 'merica sir! That kind of well thought out, rational thinking has no place in our nation! I bet your a sleeper agent planning on bringing down this country from the inside with healthy produce!



Well, yes, but I have very good manners.

Admiral_Pants

Admiral_Pants

Austin, TX
May 2004

JUL 08, 2011 05:35 PM

Since when does "suitable" mean "common" anyway?

LEtranger

Letranger

Brooklyn, NY
September 2005

JUL 08, 2011 05:37 PM

Sallen said:

LEtranger said:
I just dont understand this thing at all. What is the motivation for hassling her about this? Is it a case of capitalism gone amock, people should be "good consumers" and not grow their own food, they should buy it?

What gives?



I think it's a hold over from this "ideal" image of a homoginized nuclear family with 2.5 kids a pet, a quaint house, a green lawn and a white picket fence.

But hey, wouldn't want people to be able to express themselves or do what they want with their own property.

Housing fascism is getting a bit rediculous in this country. It's why even if I could afford a home I am not sure I would actually buy one since it's technically not yours or else stupid shit like this wouldn't happen.



This is just another reason why Im glad I moved out of suburbia years ago.


MissyMalice

MissyMalice

USA
May 2010

JUL 08, 2011 05:37 PM

Admiral_Pants said:
Since when does "suitable" mean "common" anyway?



Yeah i kinda did a double take when i read that, too.

LEtranger

Letranger

Brooklyn, NY
September 2005

JUL 08, 2011 05:40 PM

MissyMalice said:

Admiral_Pants said:
Since when does "suitable" mean "common" anyway?



Yeah i kinda did a double take when i read that, too.



I guess that could be the argument against a "suitable" gay marriage also.


FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

JUL 09, 2011 01:03 AM

I just searched "suitable" on Webster dictionary (online) and noticed there was a comment section at the bottom. Websters just became a soundboard for people complaining about the city of Oak Park persecuting the Bass family. surreal

LEtranger

Letranger

Brooklyn, NY
September 2005

JUL 09, 2011 08:03 AM

FellOnEarth said:
I just searched "suitable" on Webster dictionary (online) and noticed there was a comment section at the bottom. Websters just became a soundboard for people complaining about the city of Oak Park persecuting the Bass family. surreal



and of course "suitable" does not mean "common".

Cattie

Cattie

Canada
July 2007

JUL 09, 2011 08:44 AM

I read this story last night on Facebook, I thought it was the most absurd thing ever.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

JUL 09, 2011 09:56 AM

LEtranger said:

FellOnEarth said:
I just searched "suitable" on Webster dictionary (online) and noticed there was a comment section at the bottom. Websters just became a soundboard for people complaining about the city of Oak Park persecuting the Bass family. surreal



and of course "suitable" does not mean "common".

Which is why so many people including myself checked.

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

JUL 14, 2011 02:10 PM

In a rare moment of sanity, charges have been dropped.

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