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SilverSurfer

SilverSurfer

MODERATOR

Chicago, IL

JUN 01, 2011 08:21 PM

Global war on drugs has failed, say former leaders

The global war on drugs has "failed" according to a new report by group of politicians and former world leaders.

The Global Commission on Drug Policy report calls for the legalisation of some drugs and an end to the criminalisation of drug users.

The panel includes former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, the former leaders of Mexico, Colombia and Brazil, and the entrepreneur Sir Richard Branson.

The White House rejected the findings, saying the report was misguided.

The 19-member commission includes the former US Federal Reserve chairman Paul Volcker, the former President of Colombia Cesar Gaviria, and the current Prime Minister of Greece George Papandreou.

The panel also features prominent Latin American writers Carlos Fuentes and Mario Vargas Llosa, the EU's former foreign policy chief Javier Solana, and George Schultz, the former US Secretary of State.

Their report argues that anti-drug policy has failed by fuelling organised crime, costing taxpayers millions of dollars and causing thousands of deaths.

It cites UN estimates that opiate use increased 35% worldwide from 1998 to 2008, cocaine by 27%, and cannabis by 8.5%.

The authors criticise governments who claim the current war on drugs is effective:

"Political leaders and public figures should have the courage to articulate publicly what many of them acknowledge privately: that the evidence overwhelmingly demonstrates that repressive strategies will not solve the drug problem, and that the war on drugs has not, and cannot, be won," the report said.

Instead of punishing users who the report says "do no harm to others," the commission argues that governments should end criminalisation of drug use, experiment with legal models that would undermine organised crime syndicates and offer health and treatment services for drug-users.

It calls for drug policies based on methods empirically proven to reduce crime and promote economic and social development.

The commission is especially critical of the US, saying it must abandon anti-crime approaches to drug policy and adopt strategies rooted in healthcare and human rights.

"We hope this country (the US) at least starts to think there are alternatives," said the former Colombian President Cesar Gaviria.

"We don't see the US evolving in a way that is compatible with our (countries') long-term interests."

The office of White House drug tsar Gil Kerlikowske rejected the panel's recommendations.

"Drug addiction is a disease that can be successfully prevented and treated," said a spokesman for the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

"Making drugs more available - as this report suggests - will make it harder to keep our communities healthy and safe."


NateHevens

NateHevens

Boca Raton, FL
September 2008

JUN 01, 2011 09:09 PM

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

JUN 01, 2011 09:13 PM

Sad but true.

eyelikeglasses

eyelikeglasses

Gainesville, FL
February 2008

JUN 01, 2011 10:10 PM

Too many .gov agencies, would lose too much money, to ever legalize/decriminalize of drugs. They know they're wrong.puke

Otoki

Otoki

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

JUN 01, 2011 11:56 PM

eyelikeglasses said:
Too many .gov agencies, would lose too much money, to ever legalize/decriminalize of drugs. They know they're wrong.puke



Except that legalization could just shift a lot more money to new agencies and existing agencies, PLUS create revenue for us by taxing drugs instead of being at war against their sale and use.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

JUN 02, 2011 04:48 AM

Otoki said:

eyelikeglasses said:
Too many .gov agencies, would lose too much money, to ever legalize/decriminalize of drugs. They know they're wrong.puke



Except that legalization could just shift a lot more money to new agencies and existing agencies, PLUS create revenue for us by taxing drugs instead of being at war against their sale and use.



But then how would people backdoor legislate morality/harass poor people?

Sal_

Sal_

USA
October 2009

JUN 02, 2011 08:44 AM

Colinism said:

Otoki said:

eyelikeglasses said:
Too many .gov agencies, would lose too much money, to ever legalize/decriminalize of drugs. They know they're wrong.puke



Except that legalization could just shift a lot more money to new agencies and existing agencies, PLUS create revenue for us by taxing drugs instead of being at war against their sale and use.



But then how would people backdoor legislate morality/harass poor people?



I'm sure if history is any indication they will find a way. The Christian majority of this nation has been doing it for decades, it's old hat to them. Just ask the Irish, Jewish, mexicans, natives, homosexuals, blacks, Asians, etc....

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

JUN 03, 2011 01:02 PM

Colinism said:

Otoki said:

eyelikeglasses said:
Too many .gov agencies, would lose too much money, to ever legalize/decriminalize of drugs. They know they're wrong.puke



Except that legalization could just shift a lot more money to new agencies and existing agencies, PLUS create revenue for us by taxing drugs instead of being at war against their sale and use.



But then how would people backdoor legislate morality/harass poor people?




Nope, no racism in the anti-drug movement at all. Move along, kids.

Otoki

Otoki

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

JUN 03, 2011 05:04 PM

^^Holy shit.

XXJCBlackheartXX

XXJCBlackheartXX

Tucson, AZ
July 2008

JUN 03, 2011 05:33 PM

wow WTF is up that commerical

Rory_B_Bellows

Rory_B_Bellows

Dallas, TX
April 2007

JUN 03, 2011 05:35 PM

I'll take "Shit that wouldn't fly today" for $500, Alex.

SilverSurfer

SilverSurfer

MODERATOR

Chicago, IL

JUN 03, 2011 06:59 PM

Yes, on top of everything else, there's the racist element of the war on drugs.

Here's a small bit of good news in that area, if this actually happens that is. (Emphasis my own.)

Early release proposed for crack cocaine offenders

Thousands of federal prisoners could have an average of three years shaved off their prison terms to correct wide disparities in sentences between crack and powder cocaine offenders, under a proposal supported by Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr.

More than 12,000 federal prisoners — nearly 6% of the inmates in the badly overcrowded U.S. prison system — could be affected. But Holder recommended Wednesday that the early release be applied to only 5,500 prisoners, whose crimes did not involve the use of weapons and who did not have long criminal histories. The releases could begin later this year.

The proposal is intended to remedy a legacy of the war on drugs that meted out much harsher sentences to crack cocaine users, who are mostly black, than to powder cocaine users, often white and sometimes affluent.

Congress changed the sentencing law last year but did not address the fate of thousands of prisoners already sentenced under the old system or arrested just before the law was changed.

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The proposal under consideration by the U.S. Sentencing Commission comes after a divided Supreme Court ordered California to reduce its prison population by more than 30,000 inmates. It drew immediate fire from some prominent conservatives.

Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said he was "disappointed by the Obama administration's position" on early releases for drug offenders and indicated he might push Congress to intervene if the U.S. Sentencing Commission votes to make the changes this month that would take effect Nov. 1. "It shows they are more concerned with the well-being of criminals than with the safety of our communities."

Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said it was a "bad idea" and that "I strongly disagree" with Holder's recommendations.

But blocking the move would be an uphill battle. To stop the sentence reductions, opponents would have to introduce a bill rejecting the early releases and the House and Senate would have to pass that legislation and send it to the White House for President Obama's signature — an unlikely sequence. Smith was the only lawmaker to speak against the change in the law last year.

"I would be extremely surprised if Congress got worked up about this," said Marc Mauer, executive director of the Sentencing Project, a Washington group that pushes for reform in sentencing laws. "The law that was passed last year had strong bipartisan support and it's within the commission's authority to make sentencing guideline changes retroactive."

The number of prisoners who stand to benefit in California is relatively small, fewer than 300, because prosecutors have targeted drug gangs rather than individual dealers.

In testimony before the commission, Holder said his years as a federal prosecutor, federal judge and, now, the country's top law enforcement officer "compelled" him to seek equity between an offender convicted in a crack case and someone serving a shorter term for powder cocaine.

"There is simply no just or logical reason why their punishments should be dramatically more severe than those of other cocaine offenders," Holder said.

The six-member commission, presidential appointees comprising federal judges, lawyers and academics, are expected to vote later this month on amending the Fair Sentencing Act to grant the reprieves retroactively.

The commission has received 37,000 letters and emails on the subject, the majority of them from prisoners and their families who support early releases and equity between crack and powder cocaine offenders.

Mauer, who also testified at Wednesday's commission hearing, said the average crack offender would see a reduction of 37 months in his sentence.

The relief is justified, he said, because there is "no meaningful pharmacological difference between the two drugs" and "large percentages" of low-level crack dealers are serving long sentences designed for serious traffickers.

He added that the crack versus powder cocaine disparity particularly affects African Americans, who account for 82% of those convicted for federal crack offenses.

"For many African Americans," Mauer said, "this fundamental unfairness has undermined the legitimacy of the criminal justice system."

If the amendments are approved and become effective Nov. 1, prisoners or their attorneys can petition their sentencing judges for an early release, commission officials said. Or the judge or the director of the Bureau of Prisons could act unilaterally.

In the past, some judges have readily agreed to lower prison terms in response to changes in the sentencing guidelines. Others have been reluctant to do so.

"This process will be coordinated among the courts, probation offices, U.S. attorneys offices and the federal public defenders service," said Jeanne Doherty, a commission spokeswoman.

The harsh punishments for crack cocaine were rooted in the mid-1980s, when the epidemic of crack cocaine swept through major cities. Legislation was rushed through Congress in the weeks before the 1986 election and resulted in a series of penalties that has haunted judges, lawyers, prison wardens and untold families since.

Without time to study the issue, Congress wrote into law specific penalties for different versions of the same drug. Someone caught with 500 grams of powder cocaine or 5 grams of crack cocaine would get five years in prison. Possession of 5,000 grams of powder cocaine called for a mandatory 10-year term. The same was true for 50 grams of crack cocaine.

This 100-to-1 ratio based on the weight of powder and crack cocaine was adopted in the U.S. sentencing guidelines, and it has been used for deciding prison terms for more than 91,000 inmates since.

After years of growing criticism, Congress voted last year to change the ratio to 18 to 1. The law called for less severe prison terms for newly convicted defendants. However, it did not say what should happen to those already sentenced to long terms under the now-repealed ratio, and left it open for the commission to make available retroactive reductions.

In the Central District of California, which covers Los Angeles and six other counties, 138 prisoners would be eligible for relief.

Thom Mrozek, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Los Angeles, said that although each of the 94 federal prosecution offices nationwide had its own guidelines about what cases to bring, "in the area of narcotics, we like to focus our resources on drug trafficking organizations as opposed to a guy selling a rock."

California state prisoners serving time for cocaine offenses won't be affected by federal sentencing reductions and disparities in the state system are fewer.


Carl Gunn of the federal public defender's office in Los Angeles said the proposed federal sentence reductions were a step in the right direction but that they did not go far enough to correct the injustice of a law that so severely punishes users of one form of the drug and not others.

"There are still a lot of people out there suffering the ill effects of a horribly unjust law," he said of the thousands of other federal prisoners sentenced to mandatory minimums that cannot be lifted by the sentencing commission.


Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

JUN 04, 2011 07:38 AM

thefreak said:

Colinism said:

Otoki said:

eyelikeglasses said:
Too many .gov agencies, would lose too much money, to ever legalize/decriminalize of drugs. They know they're wrong.puke



Except that legalization could just shift a lot more money to new agencies and existing agencies, PLUS create revenue for us by taxing drugs instead of being at war against their sale and use.



But then how would people backdoor legislate morality/harass poor people?




Nope, no racism in the anti-drug movement at all. Move along, kids.



I remember seeing those on the TV when I was a kid.

fencer66

fencer66

I'm lost
November 2009

JUN 04, 2011 06:21 PM

I agree this "war" is a huge black hole for lives and money. I hope the government is finally seeing the light.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

JUN 05, 2011 05:28 AM

Rory_B_Bellows said:
I'll take "Shit that wouldn't fly today" for $500, Alex.


Considering they've pulled such idiocy like linking buying a joint to "OMG TERRORISM!!!!1!" much more recently, I wouldn't put it past them, sadly.

Psyche

Psyche

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUN 06, 2011 10:36 AM

Please sign this petition to call for an end the War on Drugs! They have reached their target number of 500,000 and now they are going for 750,000 votes.

KTDP

KTDP

Montreal, QC
April 2009

JUN 06, 2011 10:59 AM

... if it was going to work it would have worked a couple of billion dollars ago .....

NateHevens

NateHevens

Boca Raton, FL
September 2008

JUN 07, 2011 12:03 AM

The war may be failing, but the anti-drug side may just win another battle:

Tourists Face Weed Ban In Dutch Coffee Shops - Sky News

Dutch cannabis policy challenged - BBC News


I have no idea whether or not the bill's already passed, but if it is...

This could potentially turn the tides.

I am depressed...

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

JUN 23, 2011 01:27 AM

A new bill authored by Barney Frank and Ron Paul is going to be introduced to Congress that would end the federal ban on marijuana and allow states to decide drug policy individually. Lawmakers sponsoring the bill made it clear that the bill is not designed to legalize marijuana, rather that the federal government would not set or interfere with existing or future state laws concerning marijuana. With more states decriminalizing and permitting medical marijuana, and policy leaders testifying about needed changes in failed drug policy, this law may actually have a shot of coming to a vote.

Frank and Paul have paired up in the past introducing legislation that would have decriminalized marijuana, however that bill failed to pass committee, stifling any further debate.

Otoki

Otoki

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

JUN 23, 2011 02:13 AM

FellOnEarth said:
A new bill authored by Barney Frank and Ron Paul is going to be introduced to Congress that would end the federal ban on marijuana and allow states to decide drug policy individually. Lawmakers sponsoring the bill made it clear that the bill is not designed to legalize marijuana, rather that the federal government would not set or interfere with existing or future state laws concerning marijuana. With more states decriminalizing and permitting medical marijuana, and policy leaders testifying about needed changes in failed drug policy, this law may actually have a shot of coming to a vote.

Frank and Paul have paired up in the past introducing legislation that would have decriminalized marijuana, however that bill failed to pass committee, stifling any further debate.


That would be exciting. It would make legalization happen faster on the state level (if it passes) which would be great for our tax dollars and emptying our prisons of non-violent offenders.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

JUN 23, 2011 03:33 AM

Otoki said:

FellOnEarth said:
A new bill authored by Barney Frank and Ron Paul is going to be introduced to Congress that would end the federal ban on marijuana and allow states to decide drug policy individually. Lawmakers sponsoring the bill made it clear that the bill is not designed to legalize marijuana, rather that the federal government would not set or interfere with existing or future state laws concerning marijuana. With more states decriminalizing and permitting medical marijuana, and policy leaders testifying about needed changes in failed drug policy, this law may actually have a shot of coming to a vote.

Frank and Paul have paired up in the past introducing legislation that would have decriminalized marijuana, however that bill failed to pass committee, stifling any further debate.


That would be exciting. It would make legalization happen faster on the state level (if it passes) which would be great for our tax dollars and emptying our prisons of non-violent offenders.


Exactly, at least it would take away the argument that state law would be superseded by federal law, then people would actually have to debate the merits (or follies) of keeping it illegal. I wish DOMA were up for the same treatment, but I guess one thing at a time (also, I'm afraid it's not the right cycle in congress right now - not that they shouldn't have to vote on it, but that they won't vote on it). I hope that's not the case here either, but certainly would help take the strain off of the federal government's empty pockets.

Otoki

Otoki

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

JUN 23, 2011 09:51 AM

FellOnEarth said:

Otoki said:

FellOnEarth said:
A new bill authored by Barney Frank and Ron Paul is going to be introduced to Congress that would end the federal ban on marijuana and allow states to decide drug policy individually. Lawmakers sponsoring the bill made it clear that the bill is not designed to legalize marijuana, rather that the federal government would not set or interfere with existing or future state laws concerning marijuana. With more states decriminalizing and permitting medical marijuana, and policy leaders testifying about needed changes in failed drug policy, this law may actually have a shot of coming to a vote.

Frank and Paul have paired up in the past introducing legislation that would have decriminalized marijuana, however that bill failed to pass committee, stifling any further debate.


That would be exciting. It would make legalization happen faster on the state level (if it passes) which would be great for our tax dollars and emptying our prisons of non-violent offenders.


Exactly, at least it would take away the argument that state law would be superseded by federal law, then people would actually have to debate the merits (or follies) of keeping it illegal. I wish DOMA were up for the same treatment, but I guess one thing at a time (also, I'm afraid it's not the right cycle in congress right now - not that they shouldn't have to vote on it, but that they won't vote on it). I hope that's not the case here either, but certainly would help take the strain off of the federal government's empty pockets.


Just the thought of the tax revenue from legalized pot sales makes me excited. Changing something from a drain on state resources (and futures, for jailing people for that horseshit) to a revenue-generator? Fuck yes.

Priapos

priapos

San Angelo, TX
October 2005

JUN 23, 2011 01:05 PM

How do we get out of the UN Convention against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances? I think we'll have to address this, too.

Priapos

priapos

San Angelo, TX
October 2005

JUN 23, 2011 01:43 PM

Drug Policy Alliance campaign on this bill.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

JUN 23, 2011 01:52 PM

The latest political team to introduce a pro-legalization bill? Barney Frank and Ron Paul.

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