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mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

JAN 14, 2010 12:30 PM

Honor MLK Jr. Day with fried chicken and collard greens.


Colorado was the first state to make Martin Luther King's birthday a holiday, and the annual Marade, the march/parade in his honor, is the largest in the country.

So how does Denver Public Schools mark this august occasion? By offering a lunch menu on January 15 -- the same day the city hosts the 25th annual Martin Luther King Jr. Business Social Responsibility Awards -- that's billed as "In Honor of M.L.King," and features "Southern Style" chicken, collard greens and sweet potatoes.


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surreal

wingsie

wingsie

Torrance, CA
November 2009

JAN 14, 2010 01:19 PM

all I'm thinking is that the lunch on the 20th would be a much better fit.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JAN 14, 2010 01:54 PM

i'm not sure i see what's wrong with serving soul food on MLKJr Day. aside from the cholesterol, i guess.

Tadzi

Tadzi

Greeley, CO
April 2003

JAN 14, 2010 01:55 PM

no watermellon or grape soda?

Argene

Argene

Pittsburgh, PA
June 2004

JAN 14, 2010 02:15 PM

Unlike the KFC post in on the GIFs page, this is fairly innocuous, imho. King was raised in Georgia and worked throughout the South as a pastor . Being from NC and having relatives in SC and Georgia, I relate to the food above as Southern, rather than exclusively "soul food" or black. I can see if the school added something like, as tadzi said, watermelon and grape soda.

I do agree with wingsie-the lunch on the 20th would have been a better choice and been less stereotypical due to existing caricatures that have used things like the food above (fried chicken, etc). Someone might have told whoever was in charge of planning lunches that the selection might be taken the wrong way. I hope it was an innocent "let's have Southern food" decision rather than a selection based on a stereotype.

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

JAN 14, 2010 02:39 PM

Ah...it's good to see white people getting offended on behalf of our African-American friends.

LilaFussyBottom

LilaFussyBottom

I'm lost
October 2009

JAN 14, 2010 02:59 PM

don't they always? yet another way of saying, we know better than you.... whatever

Otoki

Otoki

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

JAN 17, 2010 02:08 AM

Argene said:
Unlike the KFC post in on the GIFs page, this is fairly innocuous, imho. King was raised in Georgia and worked throughout the South as a pastor . Being from NC and having relatives in SC and Georgia, I relate to the food above as Southern, rather than exclusively "soul food" or black. I can see if the school added something like, as tadzi said, watermelon and grape soda.

I do agree with wingsie-the lunch on the 20th would have been a better choice and been less stereotypical due to existing caricatures that have used things like the food above (fried chicken, etc). Someone might have told whoever was in charge of planning lunches that the selection might be taken the wrong way. I hope it was an innocent "let's have Southern food" decision rather than a selection based on a stereotype.


Yeah, that was sort of the impression I got. But I don't have a solid grounding in southern food, so I don't know if I'm just not seeing the issue.

Oh, and MMMMMMMMMMMM collard greens.

Argene

Argene

Pittsburgh, PA
June 2004

JAN 17, 2010 11:59 AM

^^^ Don't forget the cornbread!love

Tiger_Fodder

Tiger_Fodder

Braintree, MA
June 2007

JAN 17, 2010 12:13 PM

I'm appalled by the lack of nutritional value of all days listed. Do they not have nutritionists on staff at Denver's Schools?

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JAN 17, 2010 12:21 PM

Tiger_Fodder said:
I'm appalled by the lack of nutritional value of all days listed. Do they not have nutritionists on staff at Denver's Schools?



Most school lunches are pretty devoid of nutrition. And no, they probably don't have nutritionists on staff. School lunch programs have been widely criticized for being low quality and not very nutritionally sound.

J24U

J24U

Danvers, MA
February 2006

JAN 17, 2010 01:05 PM

Thistle said:

Tiger_Fodder said:
I'm appalled by the lack of nutritional value of all days listed. Do they not have nutritionists on staff at Denver's Schools?



Most school lunches are pretty devoid of nutrition. And no, they probably don't have nutritionists on staff. School lunch programs have been widely criticized for being low quality and not very nutritionally sound.



But ketchup counts as a serving of vegetables!!!

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

JAN 17, 2010 01:18 PM

Seems a whole lot healthier than when I was in grade school. I don't remember having turkey wraps and chef salads.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

JAN 17, 2010 01:36 PM

Thistle said:

Tiger_Fodder said:
I'm appalled by the lack of nutritional value of all days listed. Do they not have nutritionists on staff at Denver's Schools?



Most school lunches are pretty devoid of nutrition. And no, they probably don't have nutritionists on staff. School lunch programs have been widely criticized for being low quality and not very nutritionally sound.



Even better is that children have a myriad of alternatives to their unhealthy lunches provided by the vending machines scattered around their schools.

meatpieboy

meatpieboy

Korea, D.P.R.
June 2004

JAN 17, 2010 04:02 PM

wingsie said:
all I'm thinking is that the lunch on the 20th would be a much better fit.



B-BAM! Thread over.

sick

sick

Minneapolis, MN
June 2003

JAN 17, 2010 04:16 PM

Thistle said:

Tiger_Fodder said:
I'm appalled by the lack of nutritional value of all days listed. Do they not have nutritionists on staff at Denver's Schools?



Most school lunches are pretty devoid of nutrition. And no, they probably don't have nutritionists on staff. School lunch programs have been widely criticized for being low quality and not very nutritionally sound.



Care to point me in the direction of some of this criticism? All I can find on school lunches is that while the standards need to be updated, they're not completely nutritionally unsound, and there are a whole host of regulations schools have to comply with in order to meet the USDA requirements; menu designers would either need the help of nutritionists at some stage, or use the pre-made menus.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

JAN 17, 2010 04:23 PM

Sick said:

Thistle said:

Tiger_Fodder said:
I'm appalled by the lack of nutritional value of all days listed. Do they not have nutritionists on staff at Denver's Schools?


Most school lunches are pretty devoid of nutrition. And no, they probably don't have nutritionists on staff. School lunch programs have been widely criticized for being low quality and not very nutritionally sound.


Care to point me in the direction of some of this criticism? All I can find on school lunches is that while the standards need to be updated, they're not completely nutritionally unsound, and there are a whole host of regulations schools have to comply with in order to meet the USDA requirements; menu designers would either need the help of nutritionists at some stage, or use the pre-made menus.


I'd have to agree with Sick on this one. My high school had a pretty damn good salad bar, which was my usual lunch fare. Also, I'm willing to bet that school lunches as a whole have improved from what we had, for the reasons he listed above.

-TM

spinhouse247

spinhouse247

Punta Gorda, FL
December 2003

JAN 17, 2010 05:16 PM

My High School had damn good food, a lot of which was made to order. As for the shit served in middle and elementary school, I can recall the days of bouncing chicken nuggets off the floor to see who's bounced highest. The veggies were rubber and meats barely resembled meats. Closest thing to being edible was sloppy joe and well we all remember those things... Don't forget the half cooked sugar cookies or chocolate chip cookies! w00t!

sick

sick

Minneapolis, MN
June 2003

JAN 17, 2010 05:21 PM

spinhouse247 said:
My High School had damn good food, a lot of which was made to order. As for the shit served in middle and elementary school, I can recall the days of bouncing chicken nuggets off the floor to see who's bounced highest. The veggies were rubber and meats barely resembled meats. Closest thing to being edible was sloppy joe and well we all remember those things... Don't forget the half cooked sugar cookies or chocolate chip cookies! w00t!



Hey, what do you want for a dollar a day? Maybe it was $1.20 when I was in elementary school. I think it's about $2.30 now.

Still, school lunches went a long way toward keeping away hunger when I was a kid.

A lot of the problem now, I think, may be that while schools prepare the lunches that meet USDA nutritional guidelines, the kids don't have to eat them. They can choose to eat pizza, burgers, candy bars from the vending machines, or whatever every day if they want.

meatpieboy

meatpieboy

Korea, D.P.R.
June 2004

JAN 17, 2010 05:26 PM

Sick said:

spinhouse247 said:
My High School had damn good food, a lot of which was made to order. As for the shit served in middle and elementary school, I can recall the days of bouncing chicken nuggets off the floor to see who's bounced highest. The veggies were rubber and meats barely resembled meats. Closest thing to being edible was sloppy joe and well we all remember those things... Don't forget the half cooked sugar cookies or chocolate chip cookies! w00t!



Hey, what do you want for a dollar a day? Maybe it was $1.20 when I was in elementary school. I think it's about $2.30 now.

Still, school lunches went a long way toward keeping away hunger when I was a kid.

A lot of the problem now, I think, may be that while schools prepare the lunches that meet USDA nutritional guidelines, the kids don't have to eat them. They can choose to eat pizza, burgers, candy bars from the vending machines, or whatever every day if they want.



I'd say that's still sort of the same problem. If you don't serve edible food, of COURSE they're going to eat the burgers if they have the option.

spinhouse247

spinhouse247

Punta Gorda, FL
December 2003

JAN 17, 2010 05:59 PM

Shit, I thought I had it good back in the late 90's.This menu makes the private school kids look like inner city kids these days (kidding). I could have an eat attack around the entire student center now!

Argene

Argene

Pittsburgh, PA
June 2004

JAN 17, 2010 06:02 PM

Sick said:

spinhouse247 said:
My High School had damn good food, a lot of which was made to order. As for the shit served in middle and elementary school, I can recall the days of bouncing chicken nuggets off the floor to see who's bounced highest. The veggies were rubber and meats barely resembled meats. Closest thing to being edible was sloppy joe and well we all remember those things... Don't forget the half cooked sugar cookies or chocolate chip cookies! w00t!



Hey, what do you want for a dollar a day? Maybe it was $1.20 when I was in elementary school. I think it's about $2.30 now.

Still, school lunches went a long way toward keeping away hunger when I was a kid.

A lot of the problem now, I think, may be that while schools prepare the lunches that meet USDA nutritional guidelines, the kids don't have to eat them. They can choose to eat pizza, burgers, candy bars from the vending machines, or whatever every day if they want.



At my middle school-freshness was a problem-I remember the mass vomiting scandal that the salad bar induced.

You're right about what ids are choosing to eat-I in my hs we scanned our IDs for lunch (deducted from an account), I knew a few people who would just throw the food away-so to their parents it looked liked they were eating at the cafeteria/healthy food.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JAN 17, 2010 08:02 PM

Sick said:

Thistle said:

Tiger_Fodder said:
I'm appalled by the lack of nutritional value of all days listed. Do they not have nutritionists on staff at Denver's Schools?



Most school lunches are pretty devoid of nutrition. And no, they probably don't have nutritionists on staff. School lunch programs have been widely criticized for being low quality and not very nutritionally sound.



Care to point me in the direction of some of this criticism? All I can find on school lunches is that while the standards need to be updated, they're not completely nutritionally unsound, and there are a whole host of regulations schools have to comply with in order to meet the USDA requirements; menu designers would either need the help of nutritionists at some stage, or use the pre-made menus.



The book Fast Food Nation has some things to say about fast food lunches. I don't know that it's been in the news much, or a national discussion, or anything, but I have had more than a few conversations about how unhealthy school lunches are.

Obviously not every school or every district has bad food but it is not terribly surprising to me that a school district would have an unhealthy menu, contrary to TigerFodder's apparent amazement.

ETA: perhaps "widely criticized" was an overstatement on my part.

Schmelectra

Schmelectra

I'm lost
February 2006
sick

sick

Minneapolis, MN
June 2003

JAN 18, 2010 05:05 AM

Thistle said:

Sick said:

Thistle said:

Tiger_Fodder said:
I'm appalled by the lack of nutritional value of all days listed. Do they not have nutritionists on staff at Denver's Schools?



Most school lunches are pretty devoid of nutrition. And no, they probably don't have nutritionists on staff. School lunch programs have been widely criticized for being low quality and not very nutritionally sound.



Care to point me in the direction of some of this criticism? All I can find on school lunches is that while the standards need to be updated, they're not completely nutritionally unsound, and there are a whole host of regulations schools have to comply with in order to meet the USDA requirements; menu designers would either need the help of nutritionists at some stage, or use the pre-made menus.



The book Fast Food Nation has some things to say about fast food lunches. I don't know that it's been in the news much, or a national discussion, or anything, but I have had more than a few conversations about how unhealthy school lunches are.

Obviously not every school or every district has bad food but it is not terribly surprising to me that a school district would have an unhealthy menu, contrary to TigerFodder's apparent amazement.

ETA: perhaps "widely criticized" was an overstatement on my part.



Fair enough. smile

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