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Mike11

Mike11

Titusville, FL
OLD SKOOL

DEC 20, 2003 05:50 AM

From MSNBC

WASHINGTON - A federal appeals court ruled Friday the recording industry can’t force Internet providers to identify subscribers swapping music online, dramatically setting back the industry’s anti-piracy campaign.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3758771/

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

DEC 20, 2003 06:01 AM

It's good to see that some courts have some sensibility (well, until Dubya gets to pack the courts a bit more with Bible-thumpers). The RIAA's position was a loser: "Please let us violate due process and privacy laws so we can sue broke-ass college students."

The RIAA has rejected all reasonable efforts to improve sales of CD's and fight piracy, and has embraced a policy that declares war on their customers. Fuck 'em.

swingkitten

swingkitten

Portland, OR
OLD SKOOL

DEC 20, 2003 06:29 AM

I was quite pleased to hear about this.

sinisterbhvr

sinisterbhvr

Buffalo, NY
November 2003

DEC 20, 2003 06:50 AM

the record company needs to lower the cost of music. If CD's didn't cost so damn much people would be less likely to swap. I'd hate to see my favorite bands quit or be uninspired by money loss due to swapping. I buy my music purely to support the bands not the record companies.

Mike11

Mike11

Titusville, FL
OLD SKOOL

DEC 20, 2003 07:06 AM

I think downloads are too much also. It costs just as much to downloada CD as it does to buy it. And you dont even get all the packaging that you get when buying it in a store. That is stupid.

Corvus_PDX

Corvus_PDX

Portland, OR
December 2002

DEC 20, 2003 08:09 AM

It's about fucking time!

DebraJean

DebraJean

SUICIDEGIRL

Egypt

DEC 20, 2003 08:17 AM

Mike said:
I think downloads are too much also. It costs just as much to downloada CD as it does to buy it. And you dont even get all the packaging that you get when buying it in a store. That is stupid.



where is that?

silvercord

silvercord

Saginaw, MI
July 2003

DEC 20, 2003 08:18 AM

The reason CDs cost so much is because everyone has to have their slice of the pie. The record company, the producer, the manager, the publicist, the engineer (the list goes on) before the musician even gets any money. I will say it again...screw the middle men and support independant musicians who do all of the work and get to see most of the money you spend on their cd...which is usually much cheaper ($5-10).

Glad to see the RIAA took a hit, they deserve it. They have become far too fat off of the talent of others and need to disappear. Noone needs them, the artists don't and the consumers certainly don't, they should just close up shop and disappear.

Vaenima

Vaenima

France
December 2003

DEC 20, 2003 08:21 AM

The RIAA's just going to end up paying some judge some where to be thire little lap dog, and then start buying up ISP's and getting ppl anyway, so how are they catching ppl, coz i use mirc, andi think it's pritty safe

DebraJean

DebraJean

SUICIDEGIRL

Egypt

DEC 20, 2003 08:23 AM

am i the only one who thinks all the uproar about music file trading takes a bit of the spotlight off the fact that this is a truly revolutionary way to exchange information.
no more will being poor keep you from learning the same as someone who has the money to school at yale. now there are no excuses.

RACER_X

RACER_X

Philadelphia, PA
February 2003

DEC 20, 2003 08:24 AM

Mike said:
I think downloads are too much also. It costs just as much to downloada CD as it does to buy it. And you dont even get all the packaging that you get when buying it in a store. That is stupid.




Limewire anyone? wink

RagleGumm

RagleGumm

Canada
September 2003

DEC 20, 2003 08:34 AM

DebraJean said:
am i the only one who thinks all the uproar about music file trading takes a bit of the spotlight off the fact that this is a truly revolutionary way to exchange information.
no more will being poor keep you from learning the same as someone who has the money to school at yale. now there are no excuses.



What are the advantages of P2P (or ersatz P2P like Kazaa) over something like MIT Open Courseware?

DebraJean

DebraJean

SUICIDEGIRL

Egypt

DEC 20, 2003 08:38 AM

RagleGumm said:

What are the advantages of P2P (or ersatz P2P like Kazaa) over something like MIT Open Courseware?



thats not an answer to my question and i dont know having only seen the mit page a minute ago, but it does look quite interesting.

_Sarah_

_Sarah_

Kalamazoo, MI
January 2003

DEC 20, 2003 08:56 AM

DebraJean said:
am i the only one who thinks all the uproar about music file trading takes a bit of the spotlight off the fact that this is a truly revolutionary way to exchange information.
no more will being poor keep you from learning the same as someone who has the money to school at yale. now there are no excuses.



Nope. You aren't the only one. I agree with you.

JonnyJonnyH

JonnyJonnyH

Seattle, WA
June 2003

DEC 20, 2003 09:02 AM

DebraJean said:
am i the only one who thinks all the uproar about music file trading takes a bit of the spotlight off the fact that this is a truly revolutionary way to exchange information.
no more will being poor keep you from learning the same as someone who has the money to school at yale. now there are no excuses.



unless of course, you can't afford a computer, or live somewhere without internet access. smile

DebraJean

DebraJean

SUICIDEGIRL

Egypt

DEC 20, 2003 09:13 AM

ankiel66 said:
unless of course, you can't afford a computer, or live somewhere without internet access. smile



to be more clear my hypothesis is:
in the near future you wont need tuition to yale to gain the information you before needed to pay crazy amounts of money to get, and it wont be nearly as difficult to get it.

there are always going to be people to poor to eat let alone use a comp for a buck an hour at a cafe, but now instead of seemingly insurmountable odds aginist them learning at a higher level they just need a buck at a computer cafe.

RACER_X

RACER_X

Philadelphia, PA
February 2003

DEC 20, 2003 09:21 AM

FUCK THE RIAA

FUCK THE RIAA

Vaenima

Vaenima

France
December 2003

DEC 20, 2003 11:36 AM

DebraJean said:
am i the only one who thinks all the uproar about music file trading takes a bit of the spotlight off the fact that this is a truly revolutionary way to exchange information.
no more will being poor keep you from learning the same as someone who has the money to school at yale. now there are no excuses.





Aye, they agree with ur statment, it's just the fack that thire accountants don't agree with them not making money out of it

Scopitone

Scopitone

Irvine, CA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 20, 2003 11:47 AM

Hope this image isn't too damn big.

It was, try this

[Edited on Dec 20, 2003 by Scopitone]

MrSmead

MrSmead

Savannah, GA
February 2003

DEC 20, 2003 11:48 AM

woo-hoo!
long live the internet and the free exchange of information!

Helter

Helter

Chester, PA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 20, 2003 12:02 PM

DebraJean said:

to be more clear my hypothesis is:
in the near future you wont need tuition to yale to gain the information you before needed to pay crazy amounts of money to get, and it wont be nearly as difficult to get it.

there are always going to be people to poor to eat let alone use a comp for a buck an hour at a cafe, but now instead of seemingly insurmountable odds aginist them learning at a higher level they just need a buck at a computer cafe.



People pay for college as much for the certification as the education, probably more actually. Most of what comprises the normal "college education" can be learned by spending a few hundred dollars in books and having access to a well stocked library. You don't however, get any proof of your accomplishments if you do it that way.

DebraJean

DebraJean

SUICIDEGIRL

Egypt

DEC 20, 2003 12:30 PM

Helter said:

People pay for college as much for the certification as the education, probably more actually. Most of what comprises the normal "college education" can be learned by spending a few hundred dollars in books and having access to a well stocked library. You don't however, get any proof of your accomplishments if you do it that way.



very true true my dear. you know how i feel about school.

i think alot of people feel like they cant learn because they dont have them money or the time to go to the libary and look up info. anything that makes to easyer for people to educated themselves is a great thing in my eyes.

information transfer good robot make easy to get info good robot more people with more heads full of learning good robot

ashjdaksdgk!!!! why are you not out shopping anyway?!?!

DebraJean

DebraJean

SUICIDEGIRL

Egypt

DEC 20, 2003 12:32 PM

uh, program that makes people better spellerz send my way confused

Helter

Helter

Chester, PA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 20, 2003 01:16 PM

DebraJean said:
very true true my dear. you know how i feel about school.

i think alot of people feel like they cant learn because they dont have them money or the time to go to the libary and look up info. anything that makes to easyer for people to educated themselves is a great thing in my eyes.



That's true enough. Though what I'd really like to see is some sort of testing program that would allow people to get a "degree equivalent" or something, similar to high school equivalency exams. Something that addresses the reality that it really doesn't require a 40,000 tuition to get an education.


ashjdaksdgk!!!! why are you not out shopping anyway?!?!



Well, one of the benefits of being an anti-social near recluse who can't keep in touch with people to save his life, is that my christmas list is refreshingly short.

wink

Helter

Helter

Chester, PA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 20, 2003 01:25 PM

RagleGumm said:
What are the advantages of P2P (or ersatz P2P like Kazaa) over something like MIT Open Courseware?



I must say, at first glance that looks pretty kick ass.

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