OMG!!! Hybrid cars are a government conspiracy!!!

I bought my hybrid while Bush was POUS (I can't believe we survived that) and got a tax break for it. Wasn't Bush Rush's wet dream? His mom needs to recall is head for a lack of a brain.

Forsooth!

To all the dummies not buy hybrids or alternate fuel cars... letas wait 2 years when oil goes back up to 150 to maybe even 200 bucks a barrel.

...holy crap. though the question is, how energy-efficient is the electrolysis process?

The process is actually really old and inefficient:

Water fuelled cars usually end up being a hoax that the inventors either won't or come up with required facts and processes to prove how they work

You would need electron deficient Hydrogen in order to make an H-H-O compound and that is on the very rare side.. Hydrogen really, really doesn't like bonding to Hydrogen, in so much it will never do it. (Maybe, in some very rare cases). Dennis Klein will not release any detailed information about his process and just wants the government to buy it without question.

I think what you have there is an elaborate hoax.

Think of it this way.

You have this long ass chain of hydrocarbons that we call gasoline. We burn the gasoline for power, the only thing left out of that long ass chain of hydrocarbons is H2O and CO2 if combustion is complete. We burned the other hydrocarbons to create energy to run the car.

Now take the HHO Machine. You start with water, you supposedly ignite the water as fuel, but the end result is still water? How can you electrolyze water, burn it for fuel and still end up with water? In order for combustion to occur, you had to destroy something, it didn't happen there. How come he still ends up with water?

Something failed to happen.

There are a couple of reasons this is a poor idea. Carrying water as fuel means you need to carry hydrogen and oxygen. Carrying around a bunch of oxygen (which weighs a lot more than the hydrogen), when you're surrounded by air is more than a bit silly. Also, decomposing water onboard a vehicle is probably much less efficient than doing so in a more centralized location where you can take advantage of economies of scale.

Because it's bullshit, and here's why:

Water is very, very stable. It takes lots of energy to break water's strong molecular bonds to get burnable hydrogen/ oxygen gases, much more energy than is generated by burning those gases, thus the process is a net energy consumer, not an energy generator. There is no free lunch or perpetual motion machine.

You can generate small amounts of hydrogen/oxygen gases with automotive electrical power, but not nearly enough to make any significant difference in mileage or performance.

"Water powered car" crooks are straight-up fleecing the gullible and the ignorant.

Popular Mechanics teamed with dateline NBC to test these claims, and they found they were bullshit.

link to Popular Mechanics article 3/2009

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