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unravled

unravled

Portland, OR
August 2003

DEC 17, 2003 07:13 AM

goodlordyshorty said:
I saw on the news some girl died from taking the morning after pill yesterday.



Stop watching Fox News.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

DEC 17, 2003 08:09 AM

LeeLeeThePanda said:
What happened to the body being sacred? Treat it like a temple, because it is.
[Edited on Dec 16, 2003 by LeeLeeThePanda]



This isn't really directly related to this thread, but I think you've gotta realize that the way other people "treat their bodies" may be different from the way you treat yours, but that doesn't mean they are doing something foolish. To others, sex may be a wonderful, sacred thing, but something that they want to share with a lot of people. I don't think that means they respect their bodies any less.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

DEC 17, 2003 08:44 AM

Sure my body is a temple, but that doesn't mean I can't ransack said temple like a Visigoth and leave it a smoldering pile of rubble, right?

Back on topic: About fucking time. More methods of birth control and emergency contraception is a good thing.

Finch

Finch

SUICIDEGIRL

Thailand

DEC 17, 2003 08:55 AM

LeeLeeThePanda said:
What happened to the body being sacred? Treat it like a temple, because it is.



i agree with morgan up there and what she said about sex being sacred.

the "your body is a temple, treat it that way" argument rings true to me--i've heard it so many times in regards to tattoos and piercings. I do believe that my body is a temple--and my temple needs to be decorated. It's the same way with sex. To you, treating your body as a temple might mean abstinence until marriage. To others, it might mean celebrating sexually with different people rather often. Sex was used as celebration in many older religions, (i so wish i could tell you which ones right now...but i haven't been to bed in 36 hours or so and that's definitely affecting my line of thought.) anyway...rant over.
smile

StrawberryGirl

StrawberryGirl

I'm lost
December 2003

DEC 17, 2003 09:05 AM

YES YES YES!!!
Another battle won!

ProfessorPlum

ProfessorPlum

Chicago, IL
October 2003

DEC 17, 2003 09:14 AM

I agree that this seems to be a very good idea, since the last thing we need in this world is more unwanted children, and an alternative to the risks and trauma of abortion is certainly beneficial. I'm just curious about the risks of this pill. What if a girl takes this pill after the point at which it's effective? If the egg does end up implanting itself in the uterus, could this end up causing abnormal development of the fetus? Because many girls who would be willing to take this pill to prevent pregnancy might not be willing to go so far as abortion. Unwanted children are one thing, but unwanted children who are also physically or mentally handicapped is a whole different story. Also, what effects would large doses or repeated or regular use of this have on a woman and her reproductive system? Could it cause developmental problems in children that she may have in the future?

I'm not in any way saying that this shouldn't happen. I think the choice should be out there. I'm just always wary of new pills and chemicals and other ways to interrupt the normal functions of the human body. As far as I can see, the positives certainly outweigh the negatives, but the negatives of drugs usually don't show up until ten or twenty years down the road. Hopefully this can be used responsibly and if anyone can give me answers to my questions or tell me where to find them, I'd appreciate it.

Flux

Flux

SUICIDEGIRL

Georgia, USA

DEC 17, 2003 11:20 AM

HeIsSoGay said:
What if a girl takes this pill after the point at which it's effective? If the egg does end up implanting itself in the uterus, could this end up causing abnormal development of the fetus?



nope. it won't harm a developing fetus in any way. it's merely hormonal.


Also, what effects would large doses or repeated or regular use of this have on a woman and her reproductive system? Could it cause developmental problems in children that she may have in the future?



Plan B and Preven are really just amped-up hormonal birth control. all that a heavy use would do is mess with mestruation and perhaps make her feel a bit queasy. it is actually quite safe.


As far as I can see, the positives certainly outweigh the negatives, but the negatives of drugs usually don't show up until ten or twenty years down the road.



ever heard of the FDA? do you realize the years of testing things like this have to go through?

AcidGrampa

AcidGrampa

Berkeley, CA
September 2003

DEC 17, 2003 11:54 AM

This rules.
And hopefully constitutes an end-run on all the cretinous anti-abortion arguments.
ARRR!!!

Jayden

Jayden

SUICIDEGIRL

Oregon, USA

DEC 17, 2003 01:33 PM

goodlordyshorty said:
I saw on the news some girl died from taking the morning after pill yesterday.


Actually she took Mifeprex, which is an entirely different pill. It induces miscarrige, and she died from an infection after her miscarrige.

matt1ri

matt1ri

Brooklyn, NY
March 2003

DEC 17, 2003 03:06 PM

It’s about time. It’s not the cure all as far as social issues are concerned, but it is comforting to know it’s an option. Kind of like wearing swimmies when there’s a lifeguard on duty, not necessary but the option is there.
skull

TalonKarrde_x

TalonKarrde_x

Canada
November 2003

DEC 17, 2003 03:30 PM

There seems to be alot of confusion about what the morning-after pill is. And since I'm so OC about details, I just have to write a clarifying post.
The morning-after pill is not an abortion pill. I does not kill an un-born child. There is nothing to do with pro-life/pro-choice. It is simply a stong dose of the regular birth control pill which prevents conception, ie no baby is created.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

sqook

sqook

I'm lost
September 2002

DEC 17, 2003 03:43 PM

Flux said:
ever heard of the FDA? do you realize the years of testing things like this have to go through?



While I would generally agree with you (and I do agree with you on the issue that having this pill be widely accessible is a -good- thing), I still think that we don't really fathom the full physiological effects of pills like this. Regardless of how much FDA testing medicines like this have gone through, the thought still kind of freaks me out a bit. Tweaking the body's horomones is a rather delicate process, and it's hard to know what'll happen.

Then again, the worst that'll probably happen is getting cancer, and we're all bound to get that eventually at this point. =P

adjunct

adjunct

Philadelphia, PA
July 2002

DEC 17, 2003 06:56 PM

Clara said:

Cash said:
awww........if this pill prevents you having to get an abortion what are all the closed-minded zealots gonna complain about?



They're obviously going to complain about this. Expect to see protests at your local CVS.


I was under the impression that, in the same way that anti-smoking activists aren't protesting outside 7-11's, the sheer ubiquity of an OTC morning after pill would defuse any organized attempts to protest places selling it. You can't really have a placard-carrying queue outside of every pharmacy in the country.

sketchy1

sketchy1

Dallas, TX
December 2003

DEC 17, 2003 07:49 PM

yay.... smile

MisterGraves

MisterGraves

Portland, OR
November 2003

DEC 17, 2003 08:28 PM

i'd like to be hopeful, but i see the 20-year old catholic girl from mexico with 3 kids and am not convinced that this pill will change anything. americans are hardly achieving their replacement rate as it is, and the only reason we are is because of those religious people that have some ridiculous notion of sex and fate.
(this may be me implying that non-religious types should have babies for fear that our world will be overrun with religious babies, and that will spell certain doom).

HeLLyNn

HeLLyNn

Brooklyn, NY
December 2003

DEC 23, 2003 03:47 PM

wish it was legal when i was raped

r00kers

r00kers

Nederland, CO
February 2003

DEC 24, 2003 08:12 PM

It has not happened yet, the panel of wise men has merely recommended it. This administration does not always seem to listen to wisdom.

wigglefree

wigglefree

I'm lost
October 2003

DEC 24, 2003 08:18 PM

Finally I can stop wondering how many octogenarians are smoking viagra at any given time.

(and start wondering what's the max dose some scaird 13 yo is going to take of this shit)

[Edited to be less vague]

[Edited on Dec 24, 2003 by wigglefree]

missbernie

missbernie

HOPEFUL

Ypsilanti, MI

DEC 25, 2003 05:54 PM

"Women who use emergency contraception show an "inability to control themselves in sexual situations," said Jennifer Taylor of the anti-abortion Human Life International."

GOOD! these are the people we do not want to be mothers. they sould sell it in vending machines in public restrooms.

smile

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